Mad Mike Posted January 17, 2017 Author Share Posted January 17, 2017 Scientists confirm that warm ocean water is melting the biggest glacier in East Antarctica Quote Scientists at institutions in the United States and Australia on Friday published a set of unprecedented ocean observations near the largest glacier of the largest ice sheet in the world: Totten glacier, East Antarctica. And the result was a troubling confirmation of what scientists already feared — Totten is melting from below. The measurements, sampling ocean temperatures in seas over a kilometer (0.62 miles) deep in some places right at the edge of Totten glacier’s floating ice shelf, affirmed that warm ocean water is flowing in towards the glacier at the rate of 220,000 cubic meters per second. These waters, the paper asserts, are causing the ice shelf to lose between 63 and 80 billion tons of its mass to the ocean per year, and to lose about 10 meters (32 feet) of thickness annually, a reduction that has been previously noted based on satellite measurements. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sacks 'n' Stuff Posted January 17, 2017 Share Posted January 17, 2017 27 minutes ago, Mad Mike said: Scientists confirm that warm ocean water is melting the biggest glacier in East Antarctica No they didn't. GoP told me so. ^ It really is a bizarre behavior. I bet Jumbo would have something to say about it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larry Posted January 17, 2017 Share Posted January 17, 2017 How can Antarctica have an "East"? Is that one of those sciency things? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hersh Posted January 17, 2017 Share Posted January 17, 2017 2 minutes ago, Larry said: How can Antarctica have an "East"? Is that one of those sciency things? Prime Meridian Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twa Posted January 17, 2017 Share Posted January 17, 2017 we are all gonna die! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TradeTheBeal! Posted January 17, 2017 Share Posted January 17, 2017 26 minutes ago, twa said: we are all gonna die! It's a war zone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mad Mike Posted January 17, 2017 Author Share Posted January 17, 2017 As I said.... TWA is a troll. Over 70 Percent Of Japan's Largest Coral Reef Is Dead After Bleaching Quote As the oceans continue to warm, corals around the world have been rapidly feeling the heat. The Great Barrier Reef hit the news at the end of last year, after it experienced the largest bleaching event in recorded history, and now it seems that coral further north have also been unable to escape, as almost three-quarters of Japan’s largest coral reef has been wiped out. Right at the southern tip of Japan's archipelago, the reef is actually closer to Taiwan than it is to mainland Japan, nestled in between the islands of Ishigaki and Iriomote-jima. But surveys of the reef at 35 different locations have revealed that around 70.1 percent of the coral has died due to abnormally warm temperatures experienced over the summer months last year, which saw the shallow waters soar 2°C (3.6°F) warmer than usual. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mad Mike Posted January 17, 2017 Author Share Posted January 17, 2017 (edited) In my article "climate change and the fuel of denial" I show how climate denial is paid for by big oil. Here's the flip side. If climate scientists are in it for the money, they’re doing it wrongArs takes a look at the accusations that climate scientists push the consensus. Quote Not all of this money went to researchers anyway; part of the budget goes to NASA, and includes some of that agency's (rather pricey) hardware. For example, the Orbiting Carbon Observatory cost roughly $200 million, but failed to go into orbit; its replacement cost another $170 million. Might the private sector make up for the lack of government money? Pretty unlikely. For starters, it's tough to identify many companies that have a vested interest in the scientific consensus. Renewable energy companies would seem to be the biggest winners, but they're still relatively tiny. In contrast, half of Fortune's top 10 global companies are in fossil fuels. So, despite sporadic accusations otherwise, climate researchers are scrambling for a piece of a smaller piece of the government-funded pie, and the resources of the private sector are far, far more likely to go to groups that oppose their conclusions. Edited January 17, 2017 by Mad Mike Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mad Mike Posted January 17, 2017 Author Share Posted January 17, 2017 NASA, NOAA to Announce 2016 Global Temperatures, Climate Conditions Quote Climate experts from NASA and the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration (NOAA) will provide the annually-scheduled release of data on global temperatures and discuss the most important climate trends of 2016 during a media teleconference at 11 a.m. EST Wednesday, Jan. 18. The teleconference panelists are: Gavin Schmidt, director of NASA's Goddard Institute for Space Studies in New York Deke Arndt, chief of the global monitoring branch of NOAA’s National Centers for Environmental Information in Asheville, North Carolina Media can participate in the teleconference by calling 888-323-5258 (toll-free in the United States and Canada) or 415-228-4837 (international) and use the passcode "climate." Audio of the briefing, as well as supporting graphics, will stream live at: http://www.nasa.gov/newsaudio NASA and NOAA are two keepers of the world's temperature data and independently produce a record of Earth's surface temperatures, as well as changes based on historical observations over oceans and land. For more information about NASA's Earth science programs, visit: http://www.nasa.gov/earth Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LD0506 Posted January 17, 2017 Share Posted January 17, 2017 Ehh, don't worry, the new regime has a plan to deal with it....... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FanboyOf91 Posted January 17, 2017 Share Posted January 17, 2017 I still want this 'cold winter' thing the climate change deniers keep talking about. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twa Posted January 17, 2017 Share Posted January 17, 2017 7 minutes ago, FanboyOf91 said: I still want this 'cold winter' thing the climate change deniers keep talking about. The warmists are the ones predicting colder winters here....of course they predict a lot of things. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sacks 'n' Stuff Posted January 17, 2017 Share Posted January 17, 2017 This has got to be in the running for most absurd debate in human history. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mad Mike Posted January 17, 2017 Author Share Posted January 17, 2017 53 minutes ago, Sacks 'n' Stuff said: This has got to be in the running for most absurd debate in human history. It's absurd because there is no debate. Climate denialists are no better than 9/11 conspiracy theorists. They just have more funding. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twa Posted January 17, 2017 Share Posted January 17, 2017 Who denies climate?. Posted in Global Warming, Unhinged Tools | 2 Comments | Trackback URL If All You See… By William Teach January 17, 2017 – 1:00 pm …is a sea that will soon completely change its pattern and rise dozens of feet, you might just be a Warmist Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zoony Posted January 18, 2017 Share Posted January 18, 2017 2 hours ago, Mad Mike said: Seriously, how the hell is TWA's trolling allowed? He's like a drunken monkey flinging **** all over the place. And who is HINKLEJ@REDsKINS.COM? This clown decided to leave an insulting message on the guest page of my photo site. The little prick evidently cant form a coherent argument for my posts here so he decided to go to my site and post a message insinuating I'm a woman. I've got your "mam' hanging buddy. Que a mod telling me I'm out of line in 3... 2... 1... Good to hear you are doing okay, i sometimes assume the worst when you are gone for so long 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BornaSkinsFan83 Posted January 18, 2017 Share Posted January 18, 2017 (edited) Edit to the other thread Edited January 18, 2017 by BornaSkinsFan83 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeterMP Posted January 18, 2017 Share Posted January 18, 2017 16 hours ago, twa said: Who denies climate?. …is a sea that will soon completely change its pattern and rise dozens of feet, you might just be a Warmist This seems relevant. https://tamino.wordpress.com/2017/01/16/coping-with-sea-level-rise/#more-9231 Denier derides the Tampa Bay planning commission for considering sea level changes that are accelerating in their future planning. Claims there is no evidence of that. The tidal gauge from the area indicate otherwise: (the black dots are the actual data. The linear fit would be if there was no acceleration in the rate it was increasing and the quadratic fit assumes it is accelerating. Clearly, the quadratic fit matches more closely to what is happening at this tidal gauge.) And the Tampa planning commissions scenarios lie within what has happened: (The high, intermediate high, intermediate low, and low are different scenarios that Tampa planning commission is considering. The black line is the actual data and fits right in between the intermediate high and intermediate low. In fact, without looking I'd have to say that probably didn't happen by accident. You know, it looks like somebody actually looked at the data.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twa Posted January 18, 2017 Share Posted January 18, 2017 Sea levels and tides are certainly changing,as are currents.....the causes and cures are another matter. Subsidence,plate movements,gravitational pull, rotation and many other things influence it. Many parts of the East coast are subsiding along with the plate tipping down. Nature is far from static, as she reminds us daily.....the ground is dissolving beneath Tampa ....wonder why? the pic is to remind you not to be consumed with one aspect.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mad Mike Posted January 18, 2017 Author Share Posted January 18, 2017 (edited) On January 16, 2017 at 5:39 AM, twa said: Has increased domestic sources of NG reduced our co2 levels or not ? or have you run back to your safe place Since you actually attempted to ask a relevant question...http://www.yaleclimateconnections.org/2013/05/whats-behind-the-good-news-declines-in-u-s-co2-emissions/ Quote There are five sectors that use energy and emit carbon dioxide. The largest of these by far are electricity generation and transportation. Electricity generation burns coal, oil, and natural gas, while transportation is primarily oil-based. Industrial is the next largest, consisting of on-site fuel consumption of industrial processes (including on-site electricity generation for internal use), while residential and commercial emissions primarily involve natural gas and oil use for space and water heating. The largest declines have occurred in the electricity sector, followed by the transportation sector. To analyze what caused these declines, it’s helpful to focus on each sector in depth, creating an alternative scenario in which behaviors, technologies, and fuel mixes stayed at 2005 per-capita values. With this approach, one can examine individual factors in turn to show how much CO2 reduction is attributable to each. 8 hours ago, twa said: Sea levels and tides are certainly changing,as are currents.....the causes and cures are another matter. Subsidence,plate movements,gravitational pull, rotation and many other things influence it. Many parts of the East coast are subsiding along with the plate tipping down. Nature is far from static, as she reminds us daily.....the ground is dissolving beneath Tampa ....wonder why? the pic is to remind you not to be consumed with one aspect.. And once again you are just making *** up as you go along....https://sealevel.nasa.gov/understanding-sea-level/causes/overview Quote The seas of the Earth are rising, a direct result of a changing climate. Ocean temperatures are increasing, leading to ocean expansion. And as ice sheets and glaciers melt, they add more water. An armada of increasingly sophisticated instruments, deployed across the oceans, on polar ice and in orbit, reveals significant changes among globally interlocking factors that are driving sea levels higher. Yet the globally averaged trend toward rising sea levels masks deeper complexities. Regional effects cause sea levels to increase on some parts of the planet, decrease on others, and even to remain relatively flat in a few places, including, in recent decades, on the California coast. Thermal expansion of seawater can be the product of regional phenomena, such as El Niño, the periodic warming of the eastern tropical Pacific. But some of these regional cycles so far show no direct link to long-term global climate change—despite, at times, independently exerting a powerful short-term influence on global climate. And while Greenland, Antarctica and most of the world’s glaciers are melting, a distinction must be made between glacial discharge into the oceans, a more permanent type of ice loss, and changes in the precipitation and evaporation that is feeding those glaciers and ice sheets, which fluctuate on the scale of decades. Edited January 18, 2017 by Mad Mike Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mad Mike Posted January 18, 2017 Author Share Posted January 18, 2017 http://climate.nasa.gov/news/2504/historical-records-may-underestimate-sea-level-rise/http://climate.nasa.gov/climate_resources/125/ http://oceanservice.noaa.gov/facts/sealevel.html Quote The two major causes of global sea level rise are thermal expansion caused by warming of the ocean (since water expands as it warms) and increased melting of land-based ice, such as glaciers and ice sheets. The oceans are absorbing more than 90 percent of the increased atmospheric heat associated with emissions from human activity. With continued ocean and atmospheric warming, sea levels will likely rise for many centuries at rates higher than that of the current century. In the United States, almost 40 percent of the population lives in relatively high-population-density coastal areas, where sea level plays a role in flooding, shoreline erosion, and hazards from storms. Globally, eight of the world's 10 largest cities are near a coast, according to the U.N. Atlas of the Oceans. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FanboyOf91 Posted January 18, 2017 Share Posted January 18, 2017 #MakeWinterColdAgain #MWCA2020 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twa Posted January 18, 2017 Share Posted January 18, 2017 48 minutes ago, Mad Mike said: And once again you are just making *** up as you go along.... What is made up about any of that post?....don't be myopic. Did you know severe drought in some areas can cause the earth to wobble and impact currents and thus sea levels? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
China Posted January 19, 2017 Share Posted January 19, 2017 On 1/17/2017 at 9:02 AM, Mad Mike said: NASA, NOAA to Announce 2016 Global Temperatures, Climate Conditions U.S. scientists officially declare 2016 the hottest year on record. That makes three in a row. In a powerful testament to the warming of the planet, two leading U.S. science agencies Wednesday jointly declared 2016 the hottest year on record, surpassing the previous record set just last year — which itself had topped a record set in 2014. Average surface temperatures in 2016, according to the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration, were 0.07 degrees Fahrenheit warmer than 2015 and featured eight successive months (January through August) that were individually the warmest since the agency’s records began in 1880. Click on the link for the full article Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeterMP Posted January 19, 2017 Share Posted January 19, 2017 3 hours ago, twa said: What is made up about any of that post?....don't be myopic. Did you know severe drought in some areas can cause the earth to wobble and impact currents and thus sea levels? But there is no reason to believe that has been happening in a consistent manner to cause sea levels to increase over the time span of decades. And the other things you have listed are likely having a consistent effect, there is no reason they are having an effect that is increasing at a faster than linear rate. That's the catch, especially with the use of the term warmist. Several things affect the sea level at St. Pete's. Only one thing that we know of can be affecting it in a manner that causes it to increase at an increasingly faster rate. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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