twa Posted February 12, 2017 Share Posted February 12, 2017 (edited) I'd suggest buying a boat just to be safe. add .https://www.washingtonpost.com/national/health-science/hampton-roads-solution-to-stop-the-land-from-sinking-wastewater/2016/10/20/9537865a-8198-11e6-b002-307601806392_story.html?utm_term=.c95229712f78 Edited February 12, 2017 by twa Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mad Mike Posted February 23, 2017 Author Share Posted February 23, 2017 New EPA head Scott Pruitt's emails reveal close ties with fossil fuel interests Quote The close relationship between Scott Pruitt, the new administrator of the Environmental Protection Agency, and fossil fuel interests including the billionaire Koch brothers has been highlighted in more than 7,500 emails and other records released by the Oklahoma attorney general’s office on Wednesday. The documents show that Pruitt, while Oklahoma attorney general, acted in close concert with oil and gas companies to challenge environmental regulations, even putting his letterhead to a complaint filed by one firm, Devon Energy. This practice was first revealed in 2014, but it now appears that it occurred more than once. The emails also show that American Fuel and Petrochemical Manufacturers, an oil and gas lobby group, provided Pruitt’s office with template language to oppose ozone limits and the renewable fuel standard program in 2013. AFPM encouraged Oklahoma to challenge the rules, noting: “This argument is more credible coming from a state.” Later that year, Pruitt did file opposition to both of these regulations. The letters also show the cosy relationship between Pruitt and the American Legislative Exchange Council (Alec), the influential US lobbying network of Republican politicians and big businesses, and other lobby groups sponsored by the Koch brothers, the billionaire energy investors who have spent decades fighting against environmental regulation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mad Mike Posted February 28, 2017 Author Share Posted February 28, 2017 Just who are these 300 'scientists' telling Trump to burn the climate? Quote If you read the headlines, it might have seemed impressive: “300 Scientists Tell Trump to Leave UN Climate Agreement.” Wow, 300 scientists. That’s a lot right? Actually, it’s a pitiful list. First of all, hardly anyone on the list was a climate scientist; many were not even natural scientists. It is almost as though anyone with a college degree (and there are about 21 million enrolled in higher education programs just in the USA) was qualified to sign that letter. Okay but what about the signers of the letter? Surely they are experts in the field? Not so much.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skinny21 Posted February 28, 2017 Share Posted February 28, 2017 Anyone see the Bernie Sanders and Bill Nye interview? It was about as awkward as you'd expect, but interesting nonetheless. Also - https://www.theatlantic.com/science/archive/2017/01/thanks-to-trump-scientists-are-planning-to-run-for-office/514229/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DogofWar1 Posted March 2, 2017 Share Posted March 2, 2017 Yeah...screw these guys. https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2017/feb/28/shell-knew-oil-giants-1991-film-warned-climate-change-danger Cute little film. Too bad profits uber alles. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mad Mike Posted March 14, 2017 Author Share Posted March 14, 2017 Six irrefutable pieces of evidence that prove climate change is real Quote The facts are these: The climate of our planet is changing at a pace unlike anything seen in the natural fluctuations traced across geological records, and scientists have overwhelmingly traced this global warming trend to human activity. Unless you’re a supercomputer, you’ll find it virtually impossible to keep an eye on every single indicator of climate change. Here are a few that scientists use to monitor the planet: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mad Mike Posted March 14, 2017 Author Share Posted March 14, 2017 New York attorney general: Tillerson used 'Wayne Tracker' email at Exxon to discuss climate Quote Tillerson has significant sway over climate change issues as secretary of state. He could, for example, negotiate a U.S. exit from the Paris climate agreement. During confirmation hearings, the former oil man refused to answer questions about whether Exxon had ever downplayed or obscured climate research. He is far from being a climate change denier, however. With Tillerson as CEO, Exxon acknowledged in 2006 that climate change is a problem. The company later endorsed a carbon tax and backed the Paris climate agreement. Lets clarify.... ExxonMobil: New Disclosures Show Oil Giant Still Funding Climate Science Denial Groups Quote Organisations including the American Enterprise Institute, the American Legislative Exchange Council and the National Black Chamber of Commerce — all organisations with a record of misinformation on climate science — all received grants in 2015 from ExxonMobil. The 2015 tally brings the total amount of known Exxon funding to denial groups north of $33 million since 1998. Since 1997, ExxonMobil has been releasing reports annually listing donations to public policy groups — several of which were engaged in a public misinformation campaign on climate change science. In 2007, after years of criticism, ExxonMobil claimed to have turned a corner on the science. In a corporate responsibility report, the company said: “In 2008, we will discontinue contributions to several public policy groups whose position on climate change could divert attention from the important discussion on how the world will secure energy required for economic growth in an environmentally responsible manner.” Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twa Posted March 14, 2017 Share Posted March 14, 2017 Quote Two conservative environmental law groups are suing New York’s attorney general for withholding information related to an investigation of groups and companies skeptical of global warming. The Free Market Environmental Law Clinic (FME Law) and the Energy & Environment Legal Institute (E&E Legal) filed a lawsuit last week against Attorney General Eric Schneiderman for investigating groups and companies skeptical of so-called man-made global warming. FME Law and E&E Legal are seeking communication between Schneiderman and California Attorney General Kamala Harris, a Democrat, and environmentalist billionaire Tom Steyer. Steyer and Harris are staunch advocates of enacting inquisitions against global warming skeptics and fossil fuel companies. Read more: http://dailycaller.com/2016/08/01/free-market-groups-sues-ny-ag-over-probe-into-global-warming-skeptics/#ixzz4bJzEE4ZO Quote E&E Legal Letters Issue XIV: State, City Investment Officers the Next Stop for ‘Climate Change’ Industry & “Divestment through value destruction” Campaign https://eelegal.org/ee-legal-letters-issue-xiv-state-city-investment-officers-the-next-stop-for-climate-change-industry-divestment-through-value-destruction-campaign/ Records received to date reveal where troves of further instructive records are kept and have been accessed by public employees subject to transparency and record keeping statutes. E&E Legal is now following up on these original findings in numerous jurisdictions’ open records laws to bring pubic further details of this collaboration, and what it suggests about how the investment officials approach their fiduciary obligations in the face of apparently irresistible ideological agendas. E&E Legal intends to leave no stone unturned, working aggressively to reveal the unethical actions of every state official involved in the scheme. We have already submitted open records requests to numerous states and city governmental entities, from the East Coast to the West. Granted sufficient resources, we intend to carry these projects to their conclusion just as we are doing with the related “climate-RICO” effort. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mad Mike Posted March 15, 2017 Author Share Posted March 15, 2017 TWA - That's what you've got? An article posted by a far right propaganda site and a law suite filed by a right wing energy company funded think tank? http://www.energyandpolicy.org/energy-environment-legal-institute/ Quote The Energy & Environment Legal Institute (E&E Legal) is a coal funded nonprofit think tank [formerly the American Tradition Institute (ATI)] that engages in litigation and policy research to “hold accountable those who seek destructive government regulation that’s based on agenda-driven policy making, junk science, and hysteria.” The coal funding is revealed in documents filed as part of bankruptcy process by both Arch Coal and Alpha Natural Resources, two of the largest coal producers in the country. E&E Legal’s website at one time stated it “is part of a broader network of groups with close ties to energy interests that have long fought greenhouse gas regulation,” although that text has now been removed. E&E Legal’s senior leadership has ties to fossil fuel interests as well: David Schnare, a fossil fuel-funded pundit with connections to the Heartland Institute, State Policy Network, and other front groups; and Chris Horner, a fossil fuel-funded climate denier who works at the Competitive Enterprise Institute. The Competitive Enterprise Institute is an advocacy group with ties to tobacco and global warming disinformation campaigns, and that has also been subpoenaed by the attorney general of the U.S. Virgin Islands. The island territory is demanding to see records of the group’s donors and activities involving climate policy since the attorney general is looking into the actions of ExxonMobil’s undermining of the scientific concerns of climate change science. E&E's bull**** claim is some sort of collusion. A reminder of what collusion looks like...https://www.opensecrets.org/industries/indus.php?cycle=2016&ind=E01 Quote Since the 1990 election cycle, more than two-thirds of this sector's contributions to candidates and party committees has gone to Republicans. Besides oil and gas, the electric utilities industry is another big donor in this sector. Less generous, but even more partisan, is the mining industry. [Read more Background] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twa Posted March 15, 2017 Share Posted March 15, 2017 You don't find it amusing the folk trying to use RICO are having RICO used against t Gonna get funnier soon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mad Mike Posted March 15, 2017 Author Share Posted March 15, 2017 15 minutes ago, twa said: You don't find it amusing the folk trying to use RICO are having RICO used against t Gonna get funnier soon No. I find it a pathetic attempt by the fossil fuel industry to deflect from their own wrong doing. Yeah, I'm going to laugh my ass off when Trump and his Reich hang for treason and corruption. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twa Posted March 15, 2017 Share Posted March 15, 2017 Might be a few state's AG's hanging instead. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mad Mike Posted March 19, 2017 Author Share Posted March 19, 2017 On March 15, 2017 at 1:13 PM, twa said: Might be a few state's AG's hanging instead. If that happens. As god is my judge. I will declare war. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mad Mike Posted March 24, 2017 Author Share Posted March 24, 2017 The Extent Of Winter Ice At The Poles In 2017 Is Deeply Disturbing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twa Posted March 25, 2017 Share Posted March 25, 2017 Hug a Fracker day? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skinny21 Posted March 27, 2017 Share Posted March 27, 2017 Didn't notice this one posted. My wife told me the Honesty Act passed today, but I'm not sure she had her info right. It doesn't sound too bad until you hear the objections... Anyway, that bill and another are talked about in here. Pretty shameful how purposefully some repubs are denying the science/consensus. It's fine to question things and want to research more, but geez... https://www.theatlantic.com/science/archive/2017/03/how-to-gut-the-epa-in-the-name-of-honesty/519462/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
China Posted March 28, 2017 Share Posted March 28, 2017 On 3/25/2017 at 9:29 AM, twa said: Hug a Fracker day? Is that emoji shaking from the earthquake caused by the fracking? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
China Posted April 5, 2017 Share Posted April 5, 2017 Greenland’s Ice Caps Have Passed the Point of No Return In Greenland, the effects of climate change are quickly proving to be drastic and irreversible. Greenland’s coastal glaciers and ice caps have officially melted past the point of no return. That’s right, past the proverbial tipping point, Greenland’s ice is quickly and significantly melting. Now, if this were due to a freak heat wave and conditions returned to normal, it is theoretically possible that the ice would return. But, scientists agree that in current conditions and predicted future conditions, it is incredibly unlikely that this would ever happen. What might be the scariest part of all is that this tipping point was identified in 1997, and no one noticed us pushing past this point until now. Thankfully, if such a term can be used here, the ice caps and coastal glaciers are relatively small bodies of ice compared to Greenland’s ice sheet (the second largest ice cache in the world). While this is a massive finding and shows the serious ill-effects of climate change, there is no immediate need for panic. So, please, don’t start bringing bags of ice to Greenland. Now, while there is no dire immediate catastrophe following this news, it is definitely not something to ignore. If these glaciers were to melt fully (researchers predict they will be gone by 2100) they would raise sea levels drastically, by 3.8 cm (1.5 inches). Of course, other large formations of ice will also continue to melt and add to this rising, but that 3.8 cm alone could yield serious consequences. Click on the link for the full article Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FanboyOf91 Posted May 3, 2017 Share Posted May 3, 2017 Quote As President Donald Trump proposes dismantling federal programs aimed at cutting greenhouse gas emissions, officials and residents in South Florida are grappling with the risk that climate change could drag down housing markets. Relative sea levels in South Florida are roughly four inches higher now than in 1992. The National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration predicts sea levels will rise as much as three feet in Miami by 2060. By the end of the century, according to projections by Zillow, some 934,000 existing Florida properties, worth more than $400 billion, are at risk of being submerged. The impact is already being felt in South Florida. Tidal flooding now predictably drenches inland streets, even when the sun is out, thanks to the region’s porous limestone bedrock. Sal****er is creeping into the drinking water supply. The area’s drainage canals rely on gravity; as oceans rise, the water utility has had to install giant pumps to push water out to the ocean. The effects of climate-driven price drops could ripple across the economy, and eventually force the federal government to decide what is owed to people whose home values are ruined by climate change. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twa Posted May 3, 2017 Share Posted May 3, 2017 Tell em to quit pumping out the aquifers. glub glub Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FanboyOf91 Posted May 19, 2017 Share Posted May 19, 2017 Everything you ever wanted to know about the coming conflict in the Arctic Ocean. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twa Posted May 19, 2017 Share Posted May 19, 2017 I was told it would be ice free,why do we need icebreakers up there? Ice-cold war: Russian icebreakers outnumber U.S. vessels in vital Arctic Russia has 40 to Americans’ 2 http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2017/feb/19/coast-guard-icebreakers-in-arctic-vital-to-us-acce/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AsburySkinsFan Posted May 19, 2017 Share Posted May 19, 2017 On 3/15/2017 at 0:02 PM, Mad Mike said: TWA - That's what you've got? Hell yes that's all he's got! The number of people still fighting climate change has been reduced to those who form their scientific understanding from their political affiliation. The science is settled and has been settled, only bufoons are still keeping up thr fight...twa and Trump among the leaders. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twa Posted May 19, 2017 Share Posted May 19, 2017 https://www.vox.com/energy-and-environment/2017/5/18/15601016/trump-climate-change-mar-a-lago-sea-level-rise https://cdn0.vox-cdn.com/thumbor/-mcouiMEr_PHaqa1gUdSwRxIgiQ=/0x0:1800x1195/920x613/filters:focal(756x454:1044x742):format(webp)/cdn0.vox-cdn.com/uploads/chorus_image/image/54838267/Mar_a_lago_presentday.0.jpg glub glub Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sacks 'n' Stuff Posted May 19, 2017 Share Posted May 19, 2017 2 hours ago, twa said: I was told it would be ice free,why do we need icebreakers up there? Who's more attractive, Ryan Gosling or Ryan Reynolds? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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