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You better get a lead on the Yanks after 6 innings because that bullpen is untouchable. Holy crap...

Honestly, five on a rested pen. Don't forget Lindgren (if he's healthy). Dude is nasty. Yankees move Warren back to the pen and they can make Shreve a LOOGY/Lefty specialist. Lindgren can replace any guy between the 6th and 8th innings.

 

9th - Chapman (Primary)/Miller (Primary's rest day)

8th - Miller/Betances/Lindgren

7th - Betances/Lindgren

6th - Warren and Shreve

 

For 20 million dollars, they have negated the advantage that comes with the 15 million per year pitcher (getting through the sixth inning)

 

And at the deadline, if they really need to, they can move one of them for a starter.

 

 

"Baseball's a tough game, you need to play all 6 innings" - Joe Girardi, 2016

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The 1st of the Cubs-win-100-games-and-maybe-the-WS blurbs is out: http://m.mlb.com/news/article/160855212/10-bold-predictions-for-2016-baseball-season

 

 

10. Finally, the pick you've been waiting awaiting. Here it is: The Cubs will break one of their droughts, if not the Big One.

 

With Heyward in center field, flanked by Schwarber in left and a healthy Jorge Soler in right, the Cubs will field a team that's better than the one that won 97 games last year. They could have their first 100-win season since 1935, and they should use the postseason experience they have on their roster, including lessons learned by Rizzo, Bryant, et al, to reach the World Series for the first time since '45. But winning the first championship in 108 years will be tricky, especially because their opponent will be the Royals, going to their third straight Series on the formula they've used to go 22-9 the last two Octobers.
As the calendar turns, the World Series pick is Royals over Cubs -- with the Blue Jays, Yankees, Red Sox, Mariners and every other team in the AL in the running. Stay tuned.
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I expect a lot of hypocrisy tonight when the votes show Piazza elected to the HOF.

 

PED user. Admitted. Confirmed. And yet the same voters won't vote for Clemens and Bonds.

When was it confirmed that Piazza did steroids?

Griffey and Piazza in

 

 

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Griffey sets record at over 99 percent, but three ballots didn't include him

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Griffey was a no brainer. He was so awesome to watch.

 

Congrats to Piazza. He deserved to be in as well. As far as the PEDs, the only thing he ever admitted to was that he was not gay.

 

No, Piazza admitted to using Andro in several articles AND in his own biography. Andro is classified as a PED and has been banned by the IOC since the 1990s (MLB and other major sports started officially banning it in the 2000s). 

 

The whole debate is silly though. Either they are all guilty and don't belong, or they do and you can't punish them for using what was legally available (especially when or if it was available over the counter). 

 

Of course, is there a difference between the clean/clear that Bonds was alleged to have taken and the andro that Piazza admitted to using? Sure. But they both fall under the general PED usage ban of MLB and that alone means they should be treated equally.  

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Those 3 voters should lose their vote. 

 

As for Piazza - I guess I should have chosen better wording. He admitted  several times (his biography, a NY Times article, etc.) to using andro. The same PED that McGwire was demonized for. 

 

I meant by him admitting the usage that was confirmation.

 

 

Agree 100% about the 3 non-Griffey voters.

 

McGwire was sort of demonized for Andro, but it was not on the banned substances list, he was just using Andro to explain why it looked like he was on FOR REAL steroids.  He was then actually demonized for (and admitted to) taking for-real steroids.  But either/both admitting to using Andro is not the same as either/both admitting to using steroids or any banned PED.

 

And i say this while being a guy that has 0 sympathy for PED users (where there is solid evidence that they used).  

No, Piazza admitted to using Andro in several articles AND in his own biography. Andro is classified as a PED and has been banned by the IOC since the 1990s (MLB and other major sports started officially banning it in the 2000s). 

 

The whole debate is silly though. Either they are all guilty and don't belong, or they do and you can't punish them for using what was legally available (especially when or if it was available over the counter). 

 

Of course, is there a difference between the clean/clear that Bonds was alleged to have taken and the andro that Piazza admitted to using? Sure. But they both fall under the general PED usage ban of MLB and that alone means they should be treated equally.  

 

Well, if a substance was banned as a PED,t hen you can't use it.  If it isn't, then you shouldn't be punished for using it.  I've used creatine as a supplement for lifting, and i believe it to have enhanced my performance, but it is not a banned PED.  McGwire said he was on that too (again, trying to explain why his arms looked like buffalo without admitting to steroid use).

 

Remember when the Canadian snowboarder won a gold medal, then they stripped it for using PEDs ... and he was smoking weed???  You can't just say all drugs are PEDs, it's too gray a line.

 

And yes, there is a big difference between that and the cream/clear that Bonds used b/c the clear was anabolic steroids.  (The cream was a masking agent).  http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A33774-2004Dec3.html

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http://www.sportingnews.com/mlb-news/4690375-baseball-hall-of-fame-2016-ken-griffey-results

 

Since the MLB Draft began in 1965, no player picked with the No. 1 overall pick had ever been elected to the Baseball Hall of Fame. That changed Wednesday when Ken Griffey Jr., the top pick in 1987, was voted to Cooperstown.

In fact, no No. 1 pick had ever come close before Griffey. Harold Baines, the first pick in 1977, was the only previous candidate ever to receive more than the five percent of the vote needed to stay on the ballot. Baines received as many as 33 votes before falling off the ballot in 2011, his fifth year.

Griffey was just the 10th No. 1 pick even to appear on a ballot. The first, appropriately enough, was Rick Monday, the top selection in the first-ever draft in 1965. Monday received two votes in 1990 and fell off the ballot.

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Tim Raines not being in the HOF baffles me. I missed the show, anyone have the vote % totals of the guys who didn't get in yet?

I think he got 70%. Him and Bagwell. So they're both on the doorstep. Seems like it's just a matter of time. Next year probably (Raines has jumped up every single year of eligibility;think he started at 30%.)

I loved Harold Baines. That dudes swing...show it to the kids learning to play.

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It's debatable--without a limit on votes, we'd have a Hall of Pretty Good, or even worse, a Hall of Hey He Had Those Couple of Good Years (i.e. Mattingly and Zimmerman)

 

Not really. They would still need to reach the 75% whether you let people vote for 10 or 25 players.

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I read a post from an ex voter - I don't remember who it was (fyi - they purged about 100 voters (this year) who hadn't covered baseball the last 10 years - which didn't use to be a requirement).

 

His comment was that it was a shame for him because he only voted for people he thought belonged. He said the 10 person limit probably would never get filled on his ballot and he thought the biggest travesty was people voting for their friends who had no business ever getting votes for the HOF. He said those people are the ones who should be looked at as being the most problemmatic.

 

Can't say that he didn't have a point. I mean, does Aaron Boone belong in the HOF? And yet he got 2 votes in 2015. 


http://www.baseball-reference.com/awards/hof_2016.shtml

 

This year Garrett Anderson , Jason Kendall, Mike Sweeney, David Eckstein all received votes.

 

Really? They are HOFers to some one?

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