Going Commando Posted December 7, 2018 Share Posted December 7, 2018 1 minute ago, Hersh said: I don't think it's that people think Beal is better than Wall, it's that everyone else seems to believe Beal is simply a better fit with LeBron. LeBron wants the ball and Wall needs the ball to be effective. Beal simply has better ability to knock down jump shots and would be better offensively off the ball. I think this gets overstated. LeBron won two championships with Wade and one with Kyrie Irving. He can thrive with ball dominant guards as sidekicks. At the end of the day, good players figure out how to play with each other. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hersh Posted December 7, 2018 Share Posted December 7, 2018 55 minutes ago, stevemcqueen1 said: I think this gets overstated. LeBron won two championships with Wade and one with Kyrie Irving. He can thrive with ball dominant guards as sidekicks. At the end of the day, good players figure out how to play with each other. Wade and Irving were and are scoring guards. They aren’t the same type of player Wall is. I imagine they would figure out to how to play together but I don’t think it would be as effective as Beal there given the state of the game these days. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renegade7 Posted December 7, 2018 Share Posted December 7, 2018 11 hours ago, stevemcqueen1 said: If John Wall or Anthony Davis were free agents today and money wasn't an issue, they would be on the first flight to LA. Idk, Steve, that was a pretty scathing review by Slim Reaper and backed up by Lowry. I think Kyrie's actions getting out to Boston speak for themselves, as does PG and Butler reportedly not wanting to get traded out there either. Has anyone come out to defend him in the last 24 hours besides his teammates? Any superstars? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kosher Ham Posted December 7, 2018 Share Posted December 7, 2018 2 hours ago, stevemcqueen1 said: Well first off, the Lakers aren't really in a position to choose. You would be wrong about that. And, name the busts. Just checking. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Do Itch Big Posted December 8, 2018 Share Posted December 8, 2018 Giannis is going to abuse Looney and Bell. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Destino Posted December 9, 2018 Share Posted December 9, 2018 Celtics beat the Bulls 133-77. Time to fire the coach again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Do Itch Big Posted December 9, 2018 Share Posted December 9, 2018 Luka with 11 straight points in the 4th against the Rockets. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Momma There Goes That Man Posted December 9, 2018 Share Posted December 9, 2018 (edited) Has the Hawks GM been fired yet for that horrible trade? Luka appears to be generational, like a 6’8 Steve Nash that doesn’t need multiple years of development to get to an all star level. He’s a stud out the box Edited December 9, 2018 by Momma There Goes That Man Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Going Commando Posted December 9, 2018 Share Posted December 9, 2018 It was a franchise defining trade and I think the Hawks lost. BUT, Trae Young could end up being really good too. Gonna be interesting to see how their careers play out. The team that really ****ed up is Sacramento. Bagley looks pretty good, but you can't justify taking him over Doncic. Doncic was clearly going to be a transcendent player. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeterMP Posted December 9, 2018 Share Posted December 9, 2018 (edited) Doncic has essentially been a pro for years. I would not be surprised if this is essentially as good as he gets. Which is really good, but not steve nash mvp good. There are going to be several rookies that he looks better than this year that will be better than him in 2 years. Edited December 9, 2018 by PeterMP Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Going Commando Posted December 9, 2018 Share Posted December 9, 2018 He's 19 years old. He's one of the youngest players in the NBA and he's going to get way better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeterMP Posted December 10, 2018 Share Posted December 10, 2018 (edited) 8 hours ago, stevemcqueen1 said: He's 19 years old. He's one of the youngest players in the NBA and he's going to get way better. Make you a bet. Take the top 10 picks from that draft not counting him (so the top 11 picks). Assuming nothing fluky with injuries (e.g. one of the best this year suffers a major injury next), their average TS%-his will be a larger value next year than this year (though it might be a negative value both years). Edited December 10, 2018 by PeterMP Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warhead36 Posted December 10, 2018 Share Posted December 10, 2018 9 hours ago, stevemcqueen1 said: The team that really ****ed up is Sacramento. Bagley looks pretty good, but you can't justify taking him over Doncic. Doncic was clearly going to be a transcendent player. Man could you imagine a Fox/Doncic duo to build around.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Going Commando Posted December 10, 2018 Share Posted December 10, 2018 1 hour ago, PeterMP said: Make you a bet. Take the top 10 picks from that draft not counting him (so the top 11 picks). Assuming nothing fluky with injuries (e.g. one of the best this year suffers a major injury next), their average TS%-his will be a larger value next year than this year (though it might be a negative value both years). Is TS% how you are judging the quality of a player? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeterMP Posted December 10, 2018 Share Posted December 10, 2018 (edited) 49 minutes ago, stevemcqueen1 said: Is TS% how you are judging the quality of a player? Not totally (I'm big on defense actually, and I think people here likely know that), but it is an easily defined number that is certainly an important part of somebody being a good player. It is also a number where players generally improve as their game matures in the NBA, and there are lots of ways players improve on it (better 3 point shooter, better FT shooter, finishing through contact so getting more FT, etc.) so it doesn't really bias to a position/skill set. And in this case, I think it'll show Doncic's current performance being closer to where he plateaus than his fellow current rookies. Is there, for example, any reason to believe that Doncic's going to grow more as a defensive player than his fellow current rookies, but less in terms of TS%? Edited December 10, 2018 by PeterMP Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Going Commando Posted December 10, 2018 Share Posted December 10, 2018 38 minutes ago, Warhead36 said: Man could you imagine a Fox/Doncic duo to build around.... With Hield at SG and Bjelica and Jackson at the forward spots around Doncic and Cauley-Stein in the middle. Joerger coaching. That's strong. They'd be in the playoffs this year and get better and better over the next couple of seasons. Good short term and long term construction. Doncic and Bjelica are a natural forward tandem and they'd be cheap for the next three to four seasons. It would have been a very high powered offense. It's ironic to me that Vlade passed over the transcendent but mysterious Euro prospect for the safe Duke player. Doncic is in a good situation in Dallas though. Carlisle is a great coach and they have some good vets around him in Mathews and Jordan and Barnes and they have an assload of cap space this summer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeterMP Posted December 11, 2018 Share Posted December 11, 2018 Steph Curry doesn't believe in the moon landing. https://bleacherreport.com/articles/2810107-stephen-curry-says-he-doesnt-believe-man-landed-on-the-moon?utm_source=cnn.com&utm_campaign=editorial&utm_medium=referral 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Momma There Goes That Man Posted December 11, 2018 Share Posted December 11, 2018 Well that’s disappointing. Tho I do enjoy the theory that it was staged and the government higher Kubrick to do it and The Shining is his confession of it. I don’t believe it, but I do enjoy it quite a bit Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renegade7 Posted December 11, 2018 Share Posted December 11, 2018 2 minutes ago, Momma There Goes That Man said: Well that’s disappointing. Same day it was announced Voyager 2 made it out the heliosphere. Looking forward to @Dr. Do Itch Big take on this considering his field of study. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Do Itch Big Posted December 11, 2018 Share Posted December 11, 2018 Idc about Curry’s opinion on this. Draymond comes back tonight and Boogie is making his g league debut. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Do Itch Big Posted December 11, 2018 Share Posted December 11, 2018 MVP Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kosher Ham Posted December 11, 2018 Share Posted December 11, 2018 Lakers are terrible. Hahaha. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renegade7 Posted December 12, 2018 Share Posted December 12, 2018 (edited) On 12/10/2018 at 10:42 PM, Dr. Do Itch Big said: Idc about Curry’s opinion on this. That's cool, I think it still matters https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=658&v=cFsKEKdVWpQ Edited December 12, 2018 by Renegade7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Going Commando Posted December 17, 2018 Share Posted December 17, 2018 I'd like to hear more about how the Lakers are too good to trade their draft busts for John Wall. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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