ArmchairRedskin Posted January 9, 2012 Share Posted January 9, 2012 So, you're gonna stop posting now?At least be honest because if you didn't care what my opinions were they wouldn't bother you so much. I wonder why my opinions do bother you so much? Maybe its because I state my points quietly and clearly yet you tend to get pushy and personal yet still end up being wrong? Like with this thread: Just let it go. I have no interest in discussing it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KCClybun Posted January 9, 2012 Author Share Posted January 9, 2012 You seem to be able to find cut-ups with ease.I know I already asked but any luck finding Russell Wilson cut-ups? Or do you know what it would take to get dirtbag? to make one? I'm not getting these from Dirtbag. I've been hunting for one around, but I've been unable to find a cut up of him anywhere Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darrelgreenie Posted January 9, 2012 Share Posted January 9, 2012 ~(unrelated to anything) You seem to be able to find cut-ups with ease. I know I already asked but any luck finding Russell Wilson cut-ups? Or do you know what it would take to get dirtbag? to make one? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thirtyfive2seven Posted January 9, 2012 Share Posted January 9, 2012 This may be silly but ... perhaps we should add Andrew Luck. What if the skins go crazy and decide to mortgage everything to get him? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slateman Posted January 9, 2012 Share Posted January 9, 2012 ny chance that Tyler Wilson declares? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PCS Posted January 9, 2012 Share Posted January 9, 2012 I love it when things are this easy. Armchair. You don't want DG "posting at you",then put him on ignore. Any of the personal feelings and such,will cease now. See? Just that easy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thirtyfive2seven Posted January 9, 2012 Share Posted January 9, 2012 Its a great throw. I'm just saying that I think Cam's arm strength is greater, as is his velocity. That's all. I'm not sure that Cam would have placed it better, as he's still a bit inconsistent. But when he lets it rip, he can make throws that no one else can. And that's almost not an exaggeration at all.I think you're seriously downplaying Cam's arm here. I know that he's a dual-threat, which helps him vs. any defense...but he legitimately stands in the pocket and makes incredible throws every game. He set the rookie passing record with one great but aging WR, a good TE, a decent TE, and a good running game. That's certainly not an offense with no assets in the toolbox, but still. To break such a record, he obviously had to be a superlative passer. And you aren't giving him that credit, I don't think. Griffin is an excellent prospect. But after seeing Cam's arm transfer so well to the NFL, I don't know how you can say objectively that Griffin is "far and away" the better passer. That's ridiculous. hey I picked your post because I wanted to try to get this thread back on track again and because I agree. For the record I thought Cam was going to be the biggest bust since Russell in Oakland. He is simply amazing. I think your analysis of him is spot on. I can't wait to see how RGIII does at the combine or in private workouts if he skips it. I know I shouldn't get all pumped over him because we may not get him but I'm keeping my fingers crossed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DogofWar1 Posted January 9, 2012 Share Posted January 9, 2012 This may be silly but ... perhaps we should add Andrew Luck. What if the skins go crazy and decide to mortgage everything to get him? The concept has been tossed around, and then gets thoroughly tossed out the window within a few days. Basically, for us to land Luck the Colts would have to want to trade (slim odds, from everything we've been hearing), and then we'd have to win the bidding. If I was a gambling man I'd put down one dollar on the outside chance it happened and I won 10k. Long shot, like shooting an Apollo rocket at Saturn. ny chance that Tyler Wilson declares? No idea. Haven't heard a peep from him and ESPN is sort of unsure how to characterize him. They did a rundown of the top QBs this year, and while they didn't include Wilson in the list proper (they went Luck, RGIII, Foles, Tannehill), they mentioned him as a sort of wild card in these proceedings if he did come out. Also, I just want to chuckle a bit about the trade for tebow thread getting shut down so fast. Good work and well done to whoever nipped that inevitable train wreck of a thread in the bud. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
8181 Posted January 9, 2012 Share Posted January 9, 2012 From my friend 1. Resign Rex Grossman. 2. Sign Shaun Hill. 3. Draft a QB (if a prospect is available). The merits of drafting a quarterback should be obvious. Should you make the right choice, you bring stability and production to a position that has lacked it for a very long time for the Washington Redskins. Rex Grossman should be resigned because he knows the system. What holds Rex Grossman back from being a productive quarterback is two-fold. 1. His work ethic. What was he doing in the offseason? Nothing, which is why he came to training camp overweight. 2. His physical skillset from his height to the size of his hands to his arm strength are all limitations that are also exasperated by his lack of work ethic. Rex Grossman has shown that despite his shortcomings, his knowledge of the system and his intelligence can at times help him manufacture wins. The great quarterbacks can do this consistently. Rex Grossman can manufacture wins, but not on a consistent basis, but that is enough to be the perfect backup quarterback. Should the starting quarterback be injured, the expectation for Rex Grossman should be to tally a win or two. Furthermore, Grossman has shown with the Chicago Bears that should he be surrounded by the right cast, he can be a part of a winning team. He is also the insurance plan for Shaun Hill. Shaun Hill has put up very respectable numbers on two historically mediocre teams. Over sixteen starts (eighteen total games) with the San Franciso 49ers, Hill produced 23 TD versus 11 INT. Over ten starts (thirteen total games) with the Detroit Lions, Hill produced 16 TD versus 12 INT. 1. Shaun Hill can succeed in multiple situations under multiple coaches (Schwartz, Singletary, Nolan) on multiple teams. Having to learn a new system under Kyle Shanahan should not present typical growing pains. 2. Shaun Hill will not cost very much. 3. Shaun Hill will understand his role. At 31, he knows that he will not be expected to be the "franchise quarterback" for any team. He will not hamstring the team from drafting or signing other young prospects. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lavarleap56 Posted January 9, 2012 Share Posted January 9, 2012 From my friend1. Resign Rex Grossman. 2. Sign Shaun Hill. 3. Draft a QB (if a prospect is available). The merits of drafting a quarterback should be obvious. Should you make the right choice, you bring stability and production to a position that has lacked it for a very long time for the Washington Redskins. Rex Grossman should be resigned because he knows the system. What holds Rex Grossman back from being a productive quarterback is two-fold. 1. His work ethic. What was he doing in the offseason? Nothing, which is why he came to training camp overweight. 2. His physical skillset from his height to the size of his hands to his arm strength are all limitations that are also exasperated by his lack of work ethic. Rex Grossman has shown that despite his shortcomings, his knowledge of the system and his intelligence can at times help him manufacture wins. The great quarterbacks can do this consistently. Rex Grossman can manufacture wins, but not on a consistent basis, but that is enough to be the perfect backup quarterback. Should the starting quarterback be injured, the expectation for Rex Grossman should be to tally a win or two. Furthermore, Grossman has shown with the Chicago Bears that should he be surrounded by the right cast, he can be a part of a winning team. He is also the insurance plan for Shaun Hill. Shaun Hill has put up very respectable numbers on two historically mediocre teams. Over sixteen starts (eighteen total games) with the San Franciso 49ers, Hill produced 23 TD versus 11 INT. Over ten starts (thirteen total games) with the Detroit Lions, Hill produced 16 TD versus 12 INT. 1. Shaun Hill can succeed in multiple situations under multiple coaches (Schwartz, Singletary, Nolan) on multiple teams. Having to learn a new system under Kyle Shanahan should not present typical growing pains. 2. Shaun Hill will not cost very much. 3. Shaun Hill will understand his role. At 31, he knows that he will not be expected to be the "franchise quarterback" for any team. He will not hamstring the team from drafting or signing other young prospects. You need new friends. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
8181 Posted January 9, 2012 Share Posted January 9, 2012 It sounds like a good plan to me. Only Beck is under contract, I hope the plan isn't to just go into 2012 with Beck and RG3? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Conn Posted January 9, 2012 Share Posted January 9, 2012 You need new friends. :ols: Epic, LL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grego Posted January 9, 2012 Share Posted January 9, 2012 2. Shaun Hill will not cost very much. why do we worry about cost? we are swimming in money, and desperate for a QB. though i wouldnt bet flynn is 'the answer' just yet, i'd pay the money- since we have it- to find out. and his system is just like our own (according to people who know better than i) not opposed to hill, as a MD fan, either. and, i want RG3. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhoRUSupposed2Be Posted January 9, 2012 Share Posted January 9, 2012 Excluding the Shaun Hill excertion 8181... Every negative that you've written about Grossman should be the reasons why we should not resign him. His shortcomings are there to be seen by the naked eye, but the one falliable reason for bringing him back is because "he knows the system." If Kyles system is so QB-friendly, then we should have no problem with going the Andy Dalton route. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thirtyfive2seven Posted January 9, 2012 Share Posted January 9, 2012 The concept has been tossed around, and then gets thoroughly tossed out the window within a few days. Basically, for us to land Luck the Colts would have to want to trade (slim odds, from everything we've been hearing), and then we'd have to win the bidding. If I was a gambling man I'd put down one dollar on the outside chance it happened and I won 10k. Long shot, like shooting an Apollo rocket at Saturn.. Or actually landing on the moon Conspiracy theorists unite! Point taken - I guess it isn't really an option especially if the Colts have already publicly stated that they will take him. I wonder what that means for Peyton Manning though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HigSkin Posted January 9, 2012 Share Posted January 9, 2012 This is kind of intersting. http://www.yahoosportsradio.com/nfl/archie-manning-elis-success-and-peytons-recovery-14601/ It's a video of Eli success and Peyton's recovery from Dad Manning. brookiebentley Archie Manning isn't sure if Peyton will play next season. Told "we'll see." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dukes and Skins Posted January 9, 2012 Share Posted January 9, 2012 ny chance that Tyler Wilson declares? I dont think he should declare, would do a lot better returning to school another year. Also from what I've read on twitter he seems to be leaning to returning, although it hasn't been made official Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slateman Posted January 9, 2012 Share Posted January 9, 2012 I dont think he should declare, would do a lot better returning to school another year. Also from what I've read on twitter he seems to be leaning to returning, although it hasn't been made official Boo ... He'd be a lot better off earning millions of dollars as the Redskins QB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dukes and Skins Posted January 10, 2012 Share Posted January 10, 2012 Boo ... He'd be a lot better off earning millions of dollars as the Redskins QB I wouldn't draft him this year in the 1st round to be honest Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grego Posted January 10, 2012 Share Posted January 10, 2012 I wouldn't draft him this year in the 1st round to be honest my mancrush in wilson is a new one, so i'm curious- outside of him only starting one year, why wouldnt you consider him? dude looks very good on film, great size, very good arm, good stats. i'm looking for a flaw with this guy. not that he'll likely be available..... still, after rg3 and luck, this guy looks like an excellent prospect to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dukes and Skins Posted January 10, 2012 Share Posted January 10, 2012 my mancrush in wilson is a new one, so i'm curious- outside of him only starting one year, why wouldnt you consider him? dude looks very good on film, great size, very good arm, good stats. i'm looking for a flaw with this guy. not that he'll likely be available.....still, after rg3 and luck, this guy looks like an excellent prospect to me. Right there you said it only starting one year. He has the tools, but he's raw and his mechanics are spotty at times. He has a ton of talent, but he's better served waiting another year Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Son of Gadsden Posted January 11, 2012 Share Posted January 11, 2012 Just figured I would throw out there that "John Beck" just put in an application at my office. Didn't see his face, but our secretary just yelled "Brad, just got an application from a "John Beck", would you like to review it or should I just file it?" Classic. Priceless. Hilarious. Can't pick a word but that just made my day and I had to share. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darrelgreenie Posted January 15, 2012 Share Posted January 15, 2012 Darron Thomas QB for Oregon has declared. The following QBs have accepted their Senior Bowl invitations: Nick Foles Brandon Weeden Russell Wilson Kellen Moore Ryan Lindley Ryan Tannehill (injured) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Conn Posted January 15, 2012 Share Posted January 15, 2012 Darron Thomas should be a high pick in the CFL or UFL draft. Many will say he should switch to WR, but he's not fast enough, agile enough, or quick enough, in my opinion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grego Posted January 16, 2012 Share Posted January 16, 2012 Just figured I would throw out there that "John Beck" just put in an application at my office. Didn't see his face, but our secretary just yelled "Brad, just got an application from a "John Beck", would you like to review it or should I just file it?" Classic. Priceless. Hilarious. Can't pick a word but that just made my day and I had to share. is it 'the' john beck? i'm guessing no? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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