ixcuincle Posted October 4, 2011 Author Share Posted October 4, 2011 You can't believe everything you read from the Italian media Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
renaissance Posted October 4, 2011 Share Posted October 4, 2011 I think she was guilty..... Anyway she should thank the crappy police work. FIVE REASONS KNOX IS GUILTY 3) The alibi. Sollecito could not back up Knox’s alibi on the night of the murder. She claimed she spent the evening with him, smoking marijuana, watching the French film Amelie and making love. But Sollecito told police he could not remember if Knox was with him that evening or not. Even assuming his memory was hazy because of the drugs, it seemed odd that a young man who had just embarked on a new relationship could not recall whether he had spent the night with his girlfriend or not. 4) Computer and telephone records. Sollecito claimed he used his computer to download and watch cartoons and Amelie. But computer experts told the court that there was no activity on his laptop between 9.10pm on Nov 1, and 5.32am the next morning — the time frame in which the murder took place. Knox and Sollecito turned off their mobile phones on the night of the murder, from around 8.40pm, and turned them back on at around 6am, inviting further suspicion. How could he not back up her alibi yet he said he was watching Amelie as well? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matty dread Posted October 4, 2011 Share Posted October 4, 2011 The Italian legal system is a joke on many levels. Anyone with half a brain could see right from the start Knox was innocent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HogNose Posted October 4, 2011 Share Posted October 4, 2011 Shouldn't you post the link to the article where you plagiarized this from? Settle down chipwich....just forgot the link. Here ya go. http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/italy/8803077/Amanda-Knox-Guilty-or-innocent-five-reasons-why.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corcaigh Posted October 4, 2011 Share Posted October 4, 2011 Shouldn't you post the link to the article where you plagiarized this from? Or at least post the "Five reasons she's innocent" included in the same article for balance. My favorite: "A bedroom belonging to one of Miss Kercher’s Italian flatmates was ransacked on the night of the murder, with a window smashed with a rock. But police said the break-in was staged - broken glass from the window was found on top of clothes scattered on the floor, suggesting the window was broken after the contents of the room were messed up. " That's one hell of a key piece of evidence to convict someone for murder. Or maybe college students have messy apartment with clothes lying on the floor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TD_washingtonredskins Posted October 4, 2011 Share Posted October 4, 2011 Or at least post the "Five reasons she's innocent" included in the same article for balance. My favorite: "A bedroom belonging to one of Miss Kercher’s Italian flatmates was ransacked on the night of the murder, with a window smashed with a rock. But police said the break-in was staged - broken glass from the window was found on top of clothes scattered on the floor, suggesting the window was broken after the contents of the room were messed up. " That's one hell of a key piece of evidence to convict someone for murder. Or maybe college students have messy apartment with clothes lying on the floor. If the clothes are under the glass, convict her ass. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PiLfan Posted October 4, 2011 Share Posted October 4, 2011 "A bedroom belonging to one of Miss Kercher’s Italian flatmates was ransacked on the night of the murder, with a window smashed with a rock. But police said the break-in was staged - broken glass from the window was found on top of clothes scattered on the floor, suggesting the window was broken after the contents of the room were messed up. " That's one hell of a key piece of evidence to convict someone for murder. Or maybe college students have messy apartment with clothes lying on the floor. Agree, that's a major stretch. Hell, anyone could have some random clothes on the floor, most of all college students with whom the concept of neatness is usually a lost cause. To say nothing that someone else had already confessed, was tried and convicted of the murder anyway and this case screams of "reasonable doubt". But then again, the barometers for such things I assume are different in Italian court than here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Predicto Posted October 4, 2011 Share Posted October 4, 2011 I think she was guilty..... Anyway she should thank the crappy police work. FIVE REASONS KNOX IS GUILTY (more) That looked more like "5 things the prosecutor has theories about" than "5 thing that show she is guilty." :whoknows: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HogNose Posted October 4, 2011 Share Posted October 4, 2011 Or at least post the "Five reasons she's innocent" included in the same article for balance. Oh , umm I must have overlooked that part. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NavyDave Posted October 4, 2011 Share Posted October 4, 2011 she was lucky she was not guilty in america you have the death penalty True if the evidence linked her to the crime. Lets not forget a woman had her throat slit and is dead. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Riggo-toni Posted October 4, 2011 Share Posted October 4, 2011 The Italian legal system is a joke on many levels.Anyone with half a brain could see right from the start Knox was innocent. Bingo. I usually never follow this kind of nonsense, but having lived in Italy I had a certain appreciation for the elements involved. This same prosecutor had another high profile case (the "Monster of Florence") and wrongly convicted half a dozen innocent people without ever finding the real killer. When a coupleof authors wrote a book about it, he charged them with being in on the murders. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gibbs Hog Heaven Posted October 4, 2011 Share Posted October 4, 2011 The Kercher family today: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-15162243 Again, in peoples 'triumph' over Miss Knox's release, your heart goes out to them as their personal nightmare starts all over.How you start to move on with your loved one's killers still not brought to justice I wouldn't even begin to contemplate. Hail. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Riggo-toni Posted October 4, 2011 Share Posted October 4, 2011 I feel terrible for the Kercher's but their daughter's killer IS behind bars. I haven't read anything compelling to believe he didn't act alone. It's just sad that some incompetent convicted magistrate led them in the wrong direction to cover his own culo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ixcuincle Posted March 26, 2013 Author Share Posted March 26, 2013 http://twitter.com/deficientmode/statuses/316476825339572224 @ixcuincle RT @BBCBreaking "Italian court overturns acquittal of Amanda Knox in Meredith Kercher murder case and orders retrial" She doesn't have to go back anyway but still stupid that court ordered retrial. I'd stay far away from Italy and just hide in Seattle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skinsmarydu Posted March 26, 2013 Share Posted March 26, 2013 Her attorney is on GMA right now. Italian officials may want extradition (in 2014), but US could claim it as double jeopardy and challenge it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nonniey Posted March 26, 2013 Share Posted March 26, 2013 http://twitter.com/deficientmode/statuses/316476825339572224 She doesn't have to go back anyway but still stupid that court ordered retrial. I'd stay far away from Italy and just hide in Seattle. Extradition treaty, so yes she does have to go back. I don't think the US should strongly challenge extradition from our stronger allies, including Italy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Riggo-toni Posted March 26, 2013 Share Posted March 26, 2013 I very seriously doubt there will be any attempt at extradition. All their higher court really did was send it back for review to the appellate court, which could very likely uphold the acquittal. The prosecutor (Minigni) was facing charges of abuse of power when the murder occurred, and was under intense pressure to get results quickly. The real murderer (Guede) had already fled the country. He had no regular investigators at his disposal and used postal investigators (yeah, guys who track down mail fraud) at the crime scene. He decided Knox was guilty by her demeanor (not being visibly upset), and went after her before any fingerprint or DNA was analysed. There's no physical evidence implicating her. Her prosecutor is the same guy who convicted 4 different people for being the "monster of Florence" serial killer. Dude has a seriously messed up track record. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popeman38 Posted March 26, 2013 Share Posted March 26, 2013 Simple question: how can you "overturn" and acquittal? There is nothing to overturn. Also, how can one be tried, found not guilty, and then retried years later for the same crime, without any new evidence? Violates every principle of our legal system. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PiLfan Posted March 26, 2013 Share Posted March 26, 2013 Been a while since I heard about this case and forgotten most of it. Did the prosecution even have any theory as to motive?...i mean, something other than a "drug-induced, satanic orgy gone wrong"? ---------- Post added March-26th-2013 at 08:55 AM ---------- Simple question: how can you "overturn" and acquittal? There is nothing to overturn.Also, how can one be tried, found not guilty, and then retried years later for the same crime, without any new evidence? Violates every principle of our legal system. Difference between U.S. and Italian law. Our standards of double jeopardy, etc don't apply the same way (if at all, I'm not a legal expert by the furthest stretch). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skinsmarydu Posted March 26, 2013 Share Posted March 26, 2013 Simple question: how can you "overturn" and acquittal? There is nothing to overturn.Also, how can one be tried, found not guilty, and then retried years later for the same crime, without any new evidence? Violates every principle of our legal system. Unfortunately, it's not our legal system, because double jeopardy would apply. Dan Abrams alluded to that when he said our DOJ would probably argue that point and block her extradition. edit*: He also said it wouldn't be until next year, and alot can happen in the meantime. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Riggo-toni Posted March 26, 2013 Share Posted March 26, 2013 Been a while since I heard about this case and forgotten most of it. Did the prosecution even have any theory as to motive?...i mean, something other than a "drug-induced, satanic orgy gone wrong"? No other motive...this was, by the way, the same motive this same prosecuter used to wrongfully convict a succession of innocent people in the Florence serial killings. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Special K Posted March 26, 2013 Share Posted March 26, 2013 Glad I've already seen everything in Italy that I want and don't have to ever go back; I'd sure hate to get prosecuted for a crime I didn't commit, acquitted, then retried. Good Lord. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Riggo-toni Posted March 26, 2013 Share Posted March 26, 2013 I LOVE Italy! It's their gov't I can't stand (and most Italians would say the same). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PiLfan Posted March 26, 2013 Share Posted March 26, 2013 No other motive...this was, by the way, the same motive this same prosecuter used to wrongfully convict a succession of innocent people in the Florence serial killings. LOL, oh yeah, now i remember. Those damn cocaine induced, devil-worshipping orgies...always something goes wrong with them. Glad Italy has someone on top of that kind of mischief. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Special K Posted March 26, 2013 Share Posted March 26, 2013 I LOVE Italy! It's their gov't I can't stand (and most Italians would say the same). I loved my visits there too. I'm being facetious for the most part. The Amanda Knox case is not something that would keep me from returning for a visit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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