PokerPacker Posted July 28, 2011 Share Posted July 28, 2011 That's a lot of money to a guy when Jenkins is still out there, I think. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeeb Posted July 28, 2011 Share Posted July 28, 2011 He dosent even have any highlights on you tube..... Thats not a good sign If you google him, the first couple of links is for a 47 year old astronaut. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BRAVEONAWARPATH Posted July 28, 2011 Share Posted July 28, 2011 That's a lot of money to a guy when Jenkins is still out there, I think. Apparently, Jenkins' asking price was too high. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnnyUtah Posted July 28, 2011 Share Posted July 28, 2011 Pretty much universal agreement from many sources that hold no favor towards the Skins (mosely, williamson, PFF, etc.) that this was a great signing.And pretty much universal anger on the part of the team that lost him. Two excellent signs. I couldn't agree more. The 'Boys are pissed that they lost him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dieselfan44 Posted July 28, 2011 Share Posted July 28, 2011 Make sure he gets a good shower before walking into FedEx..... damn right,...wash that grime off!...good one! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PokerPacker Posted July 28, 2011 Share Posted July 28, 2011 Apparently, Jenkins' asking price was too high. I wouldn't be surprised. a player of his level coming off a super bowl victory isn't gonna be cheap on the open market. As I understand it, even Daryn Colledge, who I think is a decent-but-not-great guard, is getting a pretty big pay-day from the Cards (details have not been released as far as I am aware, but his agent was very happy about the deal saying it was everything they wanted, so I'm sure the Cards overpaid a good deal). Now if only we can get that kind of interest in Barnett... edit: looks like $27.5 mil over 5 years, $10 mil guaranteed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SWFLSkins Posted July 28, 2011 Share Posted July 28, 2011 If you google him, the first couple of links is for a 47 year old astronaut. BS. About 2,520,000 results (0.05 seconds) Everything Images Videos News Shopping BooksPlacesBlogsDiscussionsRecipesPatents MoreFewer Lochmoor Waterway Estates, FL Auto-detected Change locationClose Search Options Any time Past hour Past 24 hours Past 2 days Past week Past month Past year Custom range... From: To: ex: 5/23/2004 All results Sites with images Related searches Timeline Fewer search toolsMore search tools July 2011 S M T W T F S 26 27 28 29 30 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 26 27 28 29 30 31 1 2 3 4 5 6 Today None Search ResultsStephen Bowen - Dallas Cowboys - NFL - Yahoo! Sportssports.yahoo.com/nfl/players/8087 - CachedSimilar The latest stats, facts, news and notes on Stephen Bowen of the Dallas Cowboys. Stephen Bowen (American football) - Wikipedia, the free encyclopediaen.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stephen_Bowen_(American_football) - CachedSimilar Stephen Alexander Bowen (born March 28, 1984) is an American football defensive end for ... He was signed by the Cowboys as an undrafted free agent in 2006. ... Early years - College career - Personal life - External links Stephen Bowen, DE for the Dallas Cowboys at NFL.comwww.nfl.com/player/stephenbowen/2506738/profile - CachedStephen Bowen #72 DE. Dallas Cowboys | Official Team Site. Height: 6-5 Weight: 306 Age: 27. Born: 3/28/1984 Holly Ridge , NC. College: Hofstra ... News for stephen bowen cowboys Denver Post Blogs (blog) Stephen Bowen joins the Redskins msnbc.com - 1 hour ago For now, Washington fans can envision how former Cowboys defensive end Stephen Bowen will fit into the dramatically re-modeled Redskins defense. ...56 related articles Cowboys budgeted for at least six free agents ESPN (blog) - 108 related articles Stephen Bowen wants to stay, but ... ESPN (blog) - 5 related articles Stephen Bowen Stats, News, Videos, Highlights, Pictures, Bio ...espn.go.com/nfl/player/_/id/10361/stephen-bowen - CachedStephen Bowen. #72 DE; 6' 5", 306 lbs; Dallas Cowboys. Birth DateMarch 28, 1984 (Age: 27); Birth PlaceHolly Ridge, NC; Experience6 years; CollegeHofstra ... Stephen Bowen - Dallas Cowboys - 2011 Player Profile - Rotoworld.comwww.rotoworld.com/content/playerpages/player_main.aspx?id... - CachedSimilar Stephen Bowen 2011 player profile, game log, season stats, career stats, recent news. Bears Interested In Cowboys DE Stephen Bowen - Blogging The Boyswww.bloggingtheboys.com/.../dallas-cowboys-free-agents-stephen-bowen- ...2 hours ago – Multiple league sources say Bowen could "surprise" the general public with his eventual contract - one that the Bears could pay for, ... Get more results from the past 24 hours Redskins Sign Cowboys DE Stephen Bowen - Bleeding Green Nationwww.bleedinggreennation.com/.../redskins-sign-cowboys-de-stephen-bowe...2 hours ago – The Redskins made a move to improve their own 3-4 defense while simultaneously weakening the Cowboys'. They have agreed to terms on a 5-year ... Get more results from the past 24 hours Stephen Bowen | Dallas Cowboys | Stats, Pictures, News | NFL ...msn.foxsports.com/nfl/player/stephen-bowen/419451 - CachedSimilar 2 days ago – player Stephen Bowen nfl news, stats, fantasy info, scouting, awards, game logs, hometown, college, birth date and more for Stephen Bowen. Images for stephen bowen cowboys - Report imagesThank you for the feedback. Report another imagePlease report the offensive image. CancelDone ‑ Secret Superstar: Stephen Bowen, Dallas Cowboys | ProFootballFocus.comwww.profootballfocus.com/.../secret-superstar-stephen-bowen-dallas... - Cached1 post - Last post: Mar 18 Khaled Elsayed introduces Stephen Bowen in Pro Football Focus' most recent edition of their Secret Superstar series. Get more discussion results Big loss for Cowboys: DE Stephen Bowen bolts for Redskins | Dallas ...www.dallasnews.com › Sports › Cowboys › Cowboys Headlines1 hour ago – Doug Free topped the list of unrestricted free agents the Cowboys wanted to re- sign. Stephen Bowen was second. The Cowboys are now hitting ... Get more results from the past 24 hours Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gibbs Hog Heaven Posted July 28, 2011 Share Posted July 28, 2011 That's a lot of money to a guy when Jenkins is still out there, I think. Meh, $12.5 mill. guaranteed on a 5 year $27.5 mill, deal isn't too bad at all. We're not too much out of pocket if he doesn't pan out the first 2 or 3 years. Hail. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dballer Posted July 28, 2011 Share Posted July 28, 2011 Not to mention the fact we are way under the cap and HAVE to get to the 90% mark.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeeb Posted July 28, 2011 Share Posted July 28, 2011 BS.About 2,520,000 results (0.05 seconds) Everything Images Videos News Shopping BooksPlacesBlogsDiscussionsRecipesPatents MoreFewer Lochmoor Waterway Estates, FL Auto-detected Change locationClose Search Options Any time Past hour Past 24 hours Past 2 days Past week Past month Past year Custom range... From: To: ex: 5/23/2004 All results Sites with images Related searches Timeline Fewer search toolsMore search tools July 2011 S M T W T F S 26 27 28 29 30 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 26 27 28 29 30 31 1 2 3 4 5 6 Today None Search ResultsStephen Bowen - Dallas Cowboys - NFL - Yahoo! Sportssports.yahoo.com/nfl/players/8087 - CachedSimilar The latest stats, facts, news and notes on Stephen Bowen of the Dallas Cowboys. Stephen Bowen (American football) - Wikipedia, the free encyclopediaen.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stephen_Bowen_(American_football) - CachedSimilar Stephen Alexander Bowen (born March 28, 1984) is an American football defensive end for ... He was signed by the Cowboys as an undrafted free agent in 2006. ... Early years - College career - Personal life - External links Stephen Bowen, DE for the Dallas Cowboys at NFL.comwww.nfl.com/player/stephenbowen/2506738/profile - CachedStephen Bowen #72 DE. Dallas Cowboys | Official Team Site. Height: 6-5 Weight: 306 Age: 27. Born: 3/28/1984 Holly Ridge , NC. College: Hofstra ... News for stephen bowen cowboys Denver Post Blogs (blog) Stephen Bowen joins the Redskins msnbc.com - 1 hour ago For now, Washington fans can envision how former Cowboys defensive end Stephen Bowen will fit into the dramatically re-modeled Redskins defense. ...56 related articles Cowboys budgeted for at least six free agents ESPN (blog) - 108 related articles Stephen Bowen wants to stay, but ... ESPN (blog) - 5 related articles Stephen Bowen Stats, News, Videos, Highlights, Pictures, Bio ...espn.go.com/nfl/player/_/id/10361/stephen-bowen - CachedStephen Bowen. #72 DE; 6' 5", 306 lbs; Dallas Cowboys. Birth DateMarch 28, 1984 (Age: 27); Birth PlaceHolly Ridge, NC; Experience6 years; CollegeHofstra ... Stephen Bowen - Dallas Cowboys - 2011 Player Profile - Rotoworld.comwww.rotoworld.com/content/playerpages/player_main.aspx?id... - CachedSimilar Stephen Bowen 2011 player profile, game log, season stats, career stats, recent news. Bears Interested In Cowboys DE Stephen Bowen - Blogging The Boyswww.bloggingtheboys.com/.../dallas-cowboys-free-agents-stephen-bowen- ...2 hours ago – Multiple league sources say Bowen could "surprise" the general public with his eventual contract - one that the Bears could pay for, ... Get more results from the past 24 hours Redskins Sign Cowboys DE Stephen Bowen - Bleeding Green Nationwww.bleedinggreennation.com/.../redskins-sign-cowboys-de-stephen-bowe...2 hours ago – The Redskins made a move to improve their own 3-4 defense while simultaneously weakening the Cowboys'. They have agreed to terms on a 5-year ... Get more results from the past 24 hours Stephen Bowen | Dallas Cowboys | Stats, Pictures, News | NFL ...msn.foxsports.com/nfl/player/stephen-bowen/419451 - CachedSimilar 2 days ago – player Stephen Bowen nfl news, stats, fantasy info, scouting, awards, game logs, hometown, college, birth date and more for Stephen Bowen. Images for stephen bowen cowboys - Report imagesThank you for the feedback. Report another imagePlease report the offensive image. CancelDone ‑ Secret Superstar: Stephen Bowen, Dallas Cowboys | ProFootballFocus.comwww.profootballfocus.com/.../secret-superstar-stephen-bowen-dallas... - Cached1 post - Last post: Mar 18 Khaled Elsayed introduces Stephen Bowen in Pro Football Focus' most recent edition of their Secret Superstar series. Get more discussion results Big loss for Cowboys: DE Stephen Bowen bolts for Redskins | Dallas ...www.dallasnews.com › Sports › Cowboys › Cowboys Headlines1 hour ago – Doug Free topped the list of unrestricted free agents the Cowboys wanted to re- sign. Stephen Bowen was second. The Cowboys are now hitting ... Get more results from the past 24 hours post withdrawn Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SWFLSkins Posted July 28, 2011 Share Posted July 28, 2011 post withdrai think i spelled it Steven wn spelling it right would help. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grego Posted July 28, 2011 Share Posted July 28, 2011 IMO we paid way way too much for this guy. based on what? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
COWBOY-KILLA- Posted July 28, 2011 Share Posted July 28, 2011 based on what? Based on the fact his numbers are underwhelming in every sense. I personally would give money to a proven commodity and this sounds like a signing based on potential. It's a lot of dough for someone who hasn't done squat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Califan007 The Constipated Posted July 28, 2011 Share Posted July 28, 2011 Based on the fact his numbers are underwhelming in every sense. I personally would give money to a proven commodity and this sounds like a signing based on potential. It's a lot of dough for someone who hasn't done squat. You sure you want to stick with those parts in red? lol... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
00Dirty30 Posted July 28, 2011 Share Posted July 28, 2011 Phillip Daniels is quite pissed that they threw that much money at him Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Truant Posted July 28, 2011 Share Posted July 28, 2011 Based on the fact his numbers are underwhelming in every sense. I personally would give money to a proven commodity and this sounds like a signing based on potential. It's a lot of dough for someone who hasn't done squat. Word is that he did his job well, which was to eat up blockers and allow those around him to make plays. He's a stout player designed to play end in the 3-4. DTs and 3-4 ends will never look good in the stat sheet, but they often make a big difference with defensive rankings. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkinsGuy Posted July 28, 2011 Share Posted July 28, 2011 Phillip Daniels is quite pissed that they threw that much money at him Phillip Daniels is on his own time now, so he can be pissed at his own lesiure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grego Posted July 28, 2011 Share Posted July 28, 2011 Based on the fact his numbers are underwhelming in every sense. I personally would give money to a proven commodity and this sounds like a signing based on potential. It's a lot of dough for someone who hasn't done squat. check what sites like profootballfocus have to say about the guy, rather than looking at some #'s. also, see what those who follow the cowboys have to say about him. sounds like we got a very good player entering his prime. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
COWBOY-KILLA- Posted July 28, 2011 Share Posted July 28, 2011 You sure you want to stick with those parts in red? lol... Career Defensive Stats Year Team Tk Ast Sck Stf FF FR PD Int Yds TD 2006 Dallas*Cowboys 1 0 1 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 2007 Dallas*Cowboys 9 4 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 2008 Dallas*Cowboys 6 11 0 2 0 0 0 0 0 0 2009 Dallas*Cowboys 12 6 3 1 1 0 2 0 0 0 2010 Dallas*Cowboys 16 6 2 4 0 0 1 0 0 0 Totals: 44 27 6 7 1 0 3 0 0 0 Uh yeah I'll stick to what I said. Where's the beef I'm missing? 44tackles and 6 sacks in 5 years???? I know a guy is often more than his stats, but it's a reach to say he deserved 12 mil guaranteed. Just b/c I don't like what we paid him doesn't mean I hope he fails on the contrary. Now please go ahead and show me quotes about peoples opinions of him, it won't change the FACT he hasn't done much in terms of production. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wilbur58z Posted July 28, 2011 Share Posted July 28, 2011 since when are 3-4 d-lineman about stats? They're there to clog gaps Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LightningBuggs Posted July 28, 2011 Share Posted July 28, 2011 My good buddy is a huge (and knowledgable) Cowboy fan. When I told him that Cowboys may have jumped into fray with Skins for Jenkins, he said, "I'd much rather re-sign Bowen, rather than chase Jenkins. Bowen is gonna be a good one." He's very unhappy right now. So, there you have it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
styx491 Posted July 28, 2011 Share Posted July 28, 2011 Career Defensive StatsYear Team Tk Ast Sck Stf FF FR PD Int Yds TD 2006 Dallas*Cowboys 1 0 1 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 2007 Dallas*Cowboys 9 4 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 2008 Dallas*Cowboys 6 11 0 2 0 0 0 0 0 0 2009 Dallas*Cowboys 12 6 3 1 1 0 2 0 0 0 2010 Dallas*Cowboys 16 6 2 4 0 0 1 0 0 0 Totals: 44 27 6 7 1 0 3 0 0 0 Uh yeah I'll stick to what I said. Where's the beef I'm missing? 44tackles and 6 sacks in 5 years???? I know a guy is often more than his stats, but it's a reach to say he deserved 12 mil guaranteed. Just b/c I don't like what we paid him doesn't mean I hope he fails on the contrary. Now please go ahead and show me quotes about peoples opinions of him, it won't change the FACT he hasn't done much in terms of production. You're arguing about black in a sea of color. It's not about stats for linemen like this, his personal numbers and stats don't matter because the others around him are getting most of the stats and numbers. Why don't you go do the research yourself about quotes and opinions about people who have been watching the Cowboys and watching him specifically? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Art Posted July 28, 2011 Share Posted July 28, 2011 Bowen's role is not about his numbers. A better view of how he played is how the fans of the team feel about him and feel about his loss. Has anyone seen anything out of Dallas to suggest they didn't really like this guy? Was Ware more or less productive when rushing on the same side as Bowen? There are a lot of things a 3-4 end has to do that do not include generating huge tackle/sack numbers. He did have 4 stuffs last year, which shows some ability to penetrate. Honestly, I'm not saying Bowen is a great signing. But, by all accounts, he's a singing that appears to have room to GROW as a player who has not yet reached his full productivity and ability. If this is so, it's probably a good thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grego Posted July 28, 2011 Share Posted July 28, 2011 You're arguing about black in a sea of color. It's not about stats for linemen like this, his personal numbers and stats don't matter because the others around him are getting most of the stats and numbers. Why don't you go do the research yourself about quotes and opinions about people who have been watching the Cowboys and watching him specifically? this is correct. like O linemen, you really cant look at a set of #'s to determine how they play. the best way to know is by listening to those who've watched him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
COWBOY-KILLA- Posted July 28, 2011 Share Posted July 28, 2011 Guys I'm not some hater and am fully aware if the role of 3/4 ends. I'm encouraged that people feel we got a solid contributor. IMO you don't pay solid contributors 12 guaranteed. Let's hope for the best but I'm just amazed at the homers that come out in defense of a pick that can easily be argued against. If that's the market for serviceable solid ends who haven't done much yet than fine. But we overpaid on this! I think it's clear. I love the Chester,Wilson,cofield,gaffney,rocca, delas this one just has me hoping it wasn't a mistake. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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