Destino Posted January 25, 2013 Share Posted January 25, 2013 Wouldn't Okafor+Ariza for Pau work out? Don't think Lakers would take Nene.... front court of Pau+Nene. I don't want Nene and Gasol on the payroll. I don't think the wizards make any big moves this season or offseason. They're going to draft at their spot and keep the team mostly the same maybe sig nng someone to replace Webster when he walks and changing some depth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skinfan2k Posted January 25, 2013 Share Posted January 25, 2013 No kidding. As the owner of all three teams at the verizon center, how can you live with yourself knowing that all three of them are losing teams now? verizon center is sold out for caps game. its about the money with him. at least with dan synder winning on the field was always first Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fergasun Posted January 25, 2013 Share Posted January 25, 2013 I just threw it out there. Pau is going to be traded for pennies on the dollar.... maybe I'm biased being around the Lakers, but I think Pau has a couple more good years in him... he's been alienated in Los Angeles. Blaming him for the playoff losses, and then sticking him on the bench. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Destino Posted January 25, 2013 Share Posted January 25, 2013 I just threw it out there. Pau is going to be traded for pennies on the dollar.... maybe I'm biased being around the Lakers, but I think Pau has a couple more good years in him... he's been alienated in Los Angeles. Blaming him for the playoff losses, and then sticking him on the bench. They've got Kobe, Gasol, Howard, and Nash... But can't win games. That is an amazing GM/coaching fail. Gasol is not bad and the entire league knows it, suddenly the Lakers organization sucks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fergasun Posted January 25, 2013 Share Posted January 25, 2013 It's more amusing that the media is covering Lakers non-stop and ignoring how the Clippers are on a tear. I can't remember if it was last year, the one where they (my speculation is Kobe) were whispering how it was Pau's fault. Dwight Howard is killing his reputation being on the Lakers (although there is speculation his back isn't right). I wonder how things would have gone if they brought in Phil Jackson. Although Mike Brown did get fired cause of the "Princeton Offense" (not sure if E. Jordan is still on the staff, I think he is). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Going Commando Posted January 25, 2013 Share Posted January 25, 2013 Shabazz went off last night. 23 points on 8-16 shooting. UCLA got a huge upset win. He doesn't look that much like a freshman. He's just got a very mature looking game. He also seems like the type to be blow up in the NBA after being kept on the chain at UCLA. ---------- Post added January-25th-2013 at 08:02 AM ---------- I just threw it out there. Pau is going to be traded for pennies on the dollar.... maybe I'm biased being around the Lakers, but I think Pau has a couple more good years in him... he's been alienated in Los Angeles. Blaming him for the playoff losses, and then sticking him on the bench. I think Pau is still good too. I just don't think you can get to a deal that makes sense for both teams involved. It would have in the offseason before we dealt for Okafor and Ariza. Now it doesn't. Reason being we'd have to deal Okafor or Nene + change to get the contracts balanced. We're better off in the short term with Okafor and Nene. Oak can play true center and is a better fit for us right now than Pau would be and I think Nene is probably a better player than Pau is at this point. He's been a lot better than Pau this year at any rate. Pau's contract expires the same time as Okafor's so we don't get cap relief and neither do the Lakers presumably. - Oak for Pau doesn't make a ton of sense for either team since they need a PF and we need a C and the contracts are the same length. - Nene for Pau doesn't make a ton of sense for LA IMO. They're trying to shed a bunch of contracts to get under the luxury tax as quickly as possible and Nene has an extra year or two on his deal compared to Pau. Also Nene as our big man has kind of been the glue that's held the team together through one of the worst stretches in franchise history. It's flat out amazing this team is still together and is still playing so hard halfway through a worst record in the NBA season. I think Nene has been the heart of the team and I'd be a little leery about trading him for anything less than a big time young talent. BUT, I would strongly consider a Nene + Ariza for Pau swap. Main reason being the cap relief and we replace Nene with a capable big in the short term. 1.) We're not winning anything this year anyway except (hopefully) a high draft pick. And switching Nene for Pau would reset the chemistry and the team would continue struggling and pretty much cement our pick in the top 3. 2.) Pau's got a 19 million dollar expiring deal next season. Pair that with Okafor's ~15 million expiring contract and we'd have two of the biggest expiring deals in the league. Super valuable trade chips or, if we wanted, we could let them expire off our cap and give ourselves room to sign almost two max players. So we could probably get Shabazz, Nerlens, or Zeller in the draft and have room to make a huge bid for Cousins + keep Wall. We could secure our long term future and stay under the tax for years while our absurd amount of young talent matures into a contender: 1 - Wall 2 - Beal 3 - Shabazz or X 4 - Cousins 5 - Zeller/Noel or X Pretty good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Going Commando Posted January 25, 2013 Share Posted January 25, 2013 Mute the music. That's a medley of his dunks and blocks from HS with a couple of hooks and jumpers and steals mixed in. My favorite part is the guy who drives the lane trying to posterize him about 2:10 .Looks how marvelously quick he is. He has some of the quickest hands you're ever going to see. His second bounce is absolutely amazing and he can get way above the rim.I think a Tyson Chandler type comparison lowballs Nerlens. Once he fills out and gets his strength I think he'll be a franchise player. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperBash Posted January 25, 2013 Share Posted January 25, 2013 Why in the world would you ever want that music to be muted? If I'm in any video doing anything, I want that music playing in the background. Perferably in slow mo as well Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SiCkSoULjA Posted January 25, 2013 Share Posted January 25, 2013 Mute the music. That's a medley of his dunks and blocks from HS with a couple of hooks and jumpers and steals mixed in. My favorite part is the guy who drives the lane trying to posterize him about 2:10 . Looks how marvelously quick he is. He has some of the quickest hands you're ever going to see. His second bounce is absolutely amazing and he can get way above the rim. I think a Tyson Chandler type comparison lowballs Nerlens. Once he fills out and gets his strength I think he'll be a franchise player. Hmmmmm I see a comparison with me doing a complete 360 on Beal and you doing a 360 on Noel. A week ago he's Vesley next week he's a potiental franchise player. Lol my man it's great that both of us can admit we have been wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G.A.C.O.L.B. Posted January 25, 2013 Share Posted January 25, 2013 Hmmmmm I see a comparison with me doing a complete 360 on Beal and you doing a 360 on Noel. A week ago he's Vesley next week he's a potiental franchise player. Lol my man it's great that both of us can admit we have been wrong. I think you're a bit off on your numbers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SiCkSoULjA Posted January 25, 2013 Share Posted January 25, 2013 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperBash Posted January 25, 2013 Share Posted January 25, 2013 (edited) I think you're a bit off on your numbers. I laughed at this comment but then I did a 360 on it. So I'm still laughing. Edited January 25, 2013 by SuperBash Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shabby Posted January 25, 2013 Share Posted January 25, 2013 i laughed at this comment but then i did a 360 on it. So i'm still laughing. ^^^lolllll Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SiCkSoULjA Posted January 25, 2013 Share Posted January 25, 2013 Lol i am now laughing hahaha let just say we both made a complete change on our opinions and not coming around too the same damn thing lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Going Commando Posted January 25, 2013 Share Posted January 25, 2013 Hmmmmm I see a comparison with me doing a complete 360 on Beal and you doing a 360 on Noel. A week ago he's Vesley next week he's a potiental franchise player. Lol my man it's great that both of us can admit we have been wrong. Main thing is Noel started showing out. Back to back games with 7 blocks and a bunch of rebounds and a ridiculous 27 blocks in his last four games. I wrote off his ability to dribble the ball and his touch on the finesse finishes too soon. I went back and looked at some of his H.S. stuff where he dribbles the ball a lot more and saw that he's got pretty decent handles. He also has a couple jump hooks he went to that make me think he can be a fairly effective low post scorer once he develops. If you look at the IQ and the freak athleticism + the impact defensive potential he'll have right off then project him adding strength, post moves, some ball handling and face up offense--that's a franchise center. I doubt he'll be the scorer Pat Ewing became, but I can definitely see some young Pat Ewing in Nerlens. :secret: 360 = full circle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SiCkSoULjA Posted January 25, 2013 Share Posted January 25, 2013 Main thing is Noel started showing out. Back to back games with 7 blocks and a bunch of rebounds and a ridiculous 27 blocks in his last four games. I wrote off his ability to dribble the ball and his touch on the finesse finishes too soon. I went back and looked at some of his H.S. stuff where he dribbles the ball a lot more and saw that he's got pretty decent handles. He also has a couple jump hooks he went to that make me think he can be a fairly effective low post scorer once he develops.If you look at the IQ and the freak athleticism + the impact defensive potential he'll have right off then project him adding strength, post moves, some ball handling and face up offense--that's a franchise center. I doubt he'll be the scorer Pat Ewing became, but I can definitely see some young Pat Ewing in Nerlens. :secret: 360 = full circle. I think I figured that our before you sent that. I really appreciate you trying too correct me these guys was going too just laugh at me all day long lol and well deserved self fail. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrypticVillain Posted January 25, 2013 Share Posted January 25, 2013 (edited) I think I figured that our before you sent that. I really appreciate you trying too correct me these guys was going too just laugh at me all day long lol and well deserved self fail. I thought I posted a correction for you but I never hit the post button. I have been doing that a lot lately... Stupid job. Anyways, I like Noel. The one thing I see about him from that highlight tape and the couple of games I saw this year, he has some good basketball IQ. Usually you see a tall person dominate and think to yourself that he wouldn't be able to play if he wasn't so tall. I don't think that with Nerlens Noel... One thing is for sure, if we get a top three pick this year, I think we will be lucky to have Noel, Shabazz, or Zeller. Edited January 25, 2013 by MLSKINS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RonArtest15 Posted January 25, 2013 Share Posted January 25, 2013 I think we need a stretch 4 more than anything. I'd love to get Bennett out of UNLV. My top-3 1. Anthony Bennett 2. Shabazz Muhammad 3. Nerlens Noel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrypticVillain Posted January 25, 2013 Share Posted January 25, 2013 I think we need a stretch 4 more than anything. I'd love to get Bennett out of UNLV. My top-3 1. Anthony Bennett 2. Shabazz Muhammad 3. Nerlens Noel I am not too familiar with this Anthony Bennett character. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RonArtest15 Posted January 25, 2013 Share Posted January 25, 2013 I am not too familiar with this Anthony Bennett character. He can flat out ball. He's a bit undersized at 6'8", but he's a big body and has LONG arms. Dude has great range (39% from 3) and is efficient near the hoop (55% overall). Ridiculous athlete as well. He'd be amazing on our roster. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nuposse87 Posted January 25, 2013 Share Posted January 25, 2013 I am not too familiar with this Anthony Bennett character. http://www.draftexpress.com/profile/Anthony-Bennett-5866/ 6-7 with shoes, tweener forward who has skill but has no real idea how to play D. Offense is needed on this team but we don't need a blackhole on offense nor a kid that doesn't know how to defend. I think he's an ok prospect, but more in the 5-10 range. Worse case scenario for him is probably Michael Beasley Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrypticVillain Posted January 25, 2013 Share Posted January 25, 2013 He's Candian.... I don't want no parts of that. Seriously though, he does look like he would fit on this team. If he really is that bad on defense, I won't even trip. Good coaching can hide that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nuposse87 Posted January 25, 2013 Share Posted January 25, 2013 I think his D is amendable, as long as his standing reach checks out I don't mind him at the 4. He definitely has the strength and explosiveness to be good at the position. I mean if Paul Milsap was able to turn him into an above average PF I don't think its out of the question, the upside is there. I just think picking him in the top 3 is wrong when you could probably trade down a few spots while getting him, and getting a couple more assets in the process. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StillUnknown Posted January 25, 2013 Share Posted January 25, 2013 (edited) Good coaching can hide that. Edited January 25, 2013 by StillUnknown Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RonArtest15 Posted January 25, 2013 Share Posted January 25, 2013 I think his D is amendable, as long as his standing reach checks out I don't mind him at the 4. He definitely has the strength and explosiveness to be good at the position. I mean if Paul Milsap was able to turn him into an above average PF I don't think its out of the question, the upside is there. I just think picking him in the top 3 is wrong when you could probably trade down a few spots while getting him, and getting a couple more assets in the process. I just think with the draft being so weak and there also being so many questions about talent in the top10, I wouldn't trip if the Wizards did take him #3 overall (because that's where we'll be drafting LOL). This is one of the few drafts where there isn't an unquestioned #1 overall and there are about 4 guys who are (currently) in that top pick mix. If we trade back, I don't think there is any guarantee he'll still be on the board due to the strange nature of 2013 draft. You made a great point about Milsap as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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