Hersh Posted June 16, 2023 Share Posted June 16, 2023 I'll be surprised if a deal is not done by the draft. All sides are motivated to get something done quickly. 18 minutes ago, @DCGoldPants said: a think a few sportstalk guys were saying yesterday, which I found to be incorrect yesterday. Beal not only can dictate where he goes, but the return. Because he won't want to deplete a team he's going to. But, nobody mentions that the team could still decide they need a min in a return of they won't do it either. Then see if they can at the trade deadline. Don't get me wrong, I'd take lesser in return to get rid of his deal and consider that part of the return. Expiring contracts back would be fine too. If we have to have a bunch of overpaid bums for a season, that's fine. I've heard a lot of people talk about this but it doesn't really make much sense. Is Beal going to say to tell Miami what to trade and what not to trade in order to get him to approve a trade? I think that's very unlikely because he's immediately second guessing Pat Riley and their GM. Remember, the Wiz have to trade him now. They don't have to be in a hurry if the return is garbage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
@DCGoldPants Posted June 16, 2023 Share Posted June 16, 2023 31 minutes ago, Hersh said: Is Beal going to say to tell Miami what to trade and what not to trade in order to get him to approve a trade? He has a lot of control, but not total. Hopefully a few teams bid on him and Washington can get a little more. We'll see. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
method man Posted June 16, 2023 Share Posted June 16, 2023 I would love to get Simons and #3 back from Portland. Don’t think Beal is enough but maybe adding in some mix of #8, Gafford and Avdija gets it done. I’d rather hold on to #8 though. Grab Scoot or Ausar at #3 and Black at #8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warhead36 Posted June 16, 2023 Share Posted June 16, 2023 Trading Beal to only move up five spots in the draft doesn't seem like great value. But I guess it also gets the contract off the books. Not sure why he'd wanna go to Portland though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hersh Posted June 16, 2023 Share Posted June 16, 2023 Several teams have now been listed as going after Beal. Portland hasn't been mentioned so it would have to be a multi-team deal that brings the 3rd pick to Washington. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperBash Posted June 17, 2023 Share Posted June 17, 2023 (edited) I don’t think we get a lottery pick for Beal, probably some future 1sts, maybe a mid-late 1st this year and some salaries that match up like Lowry or Robinson from Heat or Harris from Philly. But I’m most excited for the draft. OKC typically picked some under the radar 1st rounders (or acquired during the draft), or not super expected at that spot, that have worked out or at least like Giddey, Jalen and Jaylin Williams, Dort, Poku, obviously getting SGA in a trade. We might head an unexpected name like Bufkin, Coulibaly, or Hood-Schifino but I’d also be very happy with Anthony Black. Ideally we trade Beal before or during the draft and get a mid-late 1st this year and grab one of those 1st three I mentioned and Black. Get some high potential guards in the organization because outside of Beal, it’s a bunch of mid tier guys at best in terms of potential. Edited June 17, 2023 by SuperBash Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
@DCGoldPants Posted June 17, 2023 Share Posted June 17, 2023 18 hours ago, Warhead36 said: Trading Beal to only move up five spots in the draft doesn't seem like great value. But I guess it also gets the contract off the books. Not sure why he'd wanna go to Portland though. The value is getting his contract off the books. Moving up 5 spots would be a big fat bonus on that if the Front Office Big 3 see a guy there they really want. I'd be fine with taking a collection of future picks that aren't this year. Yeah, it's a risk if Beal goes to a team and they are good. But he also could get hurt again and they stink. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
abdcskins Posted June 17, 2023 Share Posted June 17, 2023 Beal was worth close to three first-rounders at one point, at least two. Should have traded his bum ass four years ago. Been reading about Ausar Thompson, seems like a good fit. He is described as a freak of an athlete. Needs to work on his outside shot though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renegade7 Posted June 17, 2023 Share Posted June 17, 2023 (edited) 17 minutes ago, @DCGoldPants said: The value is getting his contract off the books. This has to be priority here...any opportunity to get anything close to fair return on value has long since gone... I can live with a bunch of expiring contracts and future 2nds...there will be plenty of opinions on how we lost whatever trade we do, but reality is we lost by not doing this 2-3 years ago and will win by being lucky for someone to bail us out of a supermax contract for a player averaging only 23ppg. Edited June 17, 2023 by Renegade7 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
@DCGoldPants Posted June 17, 2023 Share Posted June 17, 2023 17 minutes ago, Renegade7 said: This has to be priority here...any opportunity to get anything close to fair return on value has long since gone... I can live with a bunch of expiring contracts and future 2nds...there will be plenty of opinions on how we lost whatever trade we do, but reality is we lost by not doing this 2-3 years ago and will win by being lucky for someone to bail us out of a supermax contract for a player averaging only 23ppg. I'd be ok with that. If there is more than one team in on him, and he'd be ok with one of those bidding. Then maybe you get a little more. But the starting lineup next year should be a bunch of 25 and under guys so they can find out if the youth here can develop or if they need to be replaced ASAP. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ixcuincle Posted June 17, 2023 Share Posted June 17, 2023 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CRobi21 Posted June 17, 2023 Share Posted June 17, 2023 Didn't expect this to happen so quickly. Winger don't **** around I guess Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spjunkies Posted June 17, 2023 Share Posted June 17, 2023 KD finally to DC. Let's goooo 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TradeTheBeal! Posted June 17, 2023 Share Posted June 17, 2023 Looks like I picked the wrong week to quit drinking. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ball Security Posted June 17, 2023 Share Posted June 17, 2023 31 minutes ago, ixcuincle said: Alright, for those who understand the CBA better than I do…it looks like a Paul and Ayton for a Beal and Morris swap passes for salary. Phoenix has a 2024 and 2026 1st rounder they can give up. They also have Darius Bazely as a RFA. Would he have to do a sign and trade to be part of the deal? Would there be a market to flip Ayton and Paul for more picks? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Metalhead Posted June 17, 2023 Share Posted June 17, 2023 On 4/28/2023 at 3:49 PM, Metalhead said: A Miami deal built around Beal for Kyle Lowry, Duncan Robinson, and picks could work. The Wizards are not going to get much more than that in return for Beal's contract. Edit - plus the trade wouldn't gut Miami's roster, possibly incentivizing Beal to accept it. Hmm, let's see how close I get Currently looking like it will be Lowry, Oladipo, another salary, and maybe Nikola Jovic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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@DCGoldPants Posted June 17, 2023 Share Posted June 17, 2023 Ideally this would just be the first move in a series over the summer. Chris Paul for example. Can't imagine he'd ever suit up here. He'd likely be flipped again to someone else who is trying to get over the top. Even for limited returns there. The point is to acquire cap space and/or draft assets/very young players on rookie deals. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ball Security Posted June 17, 2023 Share Posted June 17, 2023 11 minutes ago, BRAVEONAWARPATH said: I believe Phoenix only has first rounders in ‘24 and ‘26 from now until 2030. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Ball Security Posted June 18, 2023 Share Posted June 18, 2023 18 minutes ago, @DCGoldPants said: If there’s truth to this, I hope Charlotte really loves Miller. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FootballZombie Posted June 18, 2023 Share Posted June 18, 2023 If we can swing Unicorn for the 3 and still have whatever we move Beal for... Bruh 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hersh Posted June 18, 2023 Share Posted June 18, 2023 19 minutes ago, FootballZombie said: If we can swing Unicorn for the 3 and still have whatever we move Beal for... Bruh We'd have to include the 8th pick. Front office wants in the top-3 for either Miller or Scoot. They must think both are franchise players. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperBash Posted June 18, 2023 Share Posted June 18, 2023 I’d imagine we’d need to give up the 8th along with Porzingis for the 3rd. KP can’t have that much value. Seems far fetched to begin with 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ball Security Posted June 18, 2023 Share Posted June 18, 2023 2 minutes ago, Hersh said: We'd have to include the 8th pick. Front office wants in the top-3 for either Miller or Scoot. They must think both are franchise players. What are your thoughts on Henderson? Short, explosive guards scare me with their injury potential. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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