blue collar Posted September 15, 2010 Share Posted September 15, 2010 Why is he so popular and why do everybody, including educated people, put this man on a pedistal? And I don't really by into the whole "thug angel" hype. I mean just before he was shot and killed, he was caught on tape, along with others, beating up a man. What makes him any better than any other rapper or any other thug? Why he gets mad love and others don't? I want the rap community on ES to explain that to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hardcore Zornography Posted September 15, 2010 Share Posted September 15, 2010 :munchout: This is going to be good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blue collar Posted September 15, 2010 Author Share Posted September 15, 2010 :munchout:This is going to be good. LOL. I didn't mean to offend anybody. I just wanted to know, what's the big deal with this man. Even the educated Michael Dyson is on dudes nutsack. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skinz4Life12 Posted September 15, 2010 Share Posted September 15, 2010 well i enjoy his music for starters Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blue collar Posted September 15, 2010 Author Share Posted September 15, 2010 well i enjoy his music for starters I'm not really talking about his music. I'm not a huge rap fan, but I do like some of his songs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoggLife Posted September 15, 2010 Share Posted September 15, 2010 He was the greatest rapper that ever lived. Most people can relate to most stuff he rapped about. It was just dumb desisions that caused for such a short life. But he was a genious. He is up there with the Beatles and Elvis. Even a decade after his death people still thought he was alive. I was one of those people for the first like 5 years thinking he was still alive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Conn Posted September 15, 2010 Share Posted September 15, 2010 He was the greatest rapper that ever lived. Most people can relate to most stuff he rapped about. It was just dumb desisions that caused for such a short life. But he was a genious. He is up there with the Beatles and Elvis. Even a decade after his death people still thought he was alive. I was one of those people for the first like 5 years thinking he was still alive. That doesn't make him an immortalized music legend like the Beatles or Elvis.....it makes you an idiot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forehead Posted September 15, 2010 Share Posted September 15, 2010 Most people can relate to most stuff he rapped about. How many people can really relate to what he rapped about? I certainly can't, even though I enjoyed a few of his songs. Which is really saying something since I don't care for rap music much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burgold Posted September 15, 2010 Share Posted September 15, 2010 Death lionizes people it makes them greater than they were. He's a Rap Music Martyr. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McD5 Posted September 15, 2010 Share Posted September 15, 2010 He was the greatest rapper that ever lived. Most people can relate to most stuff he rapped about. It was just dumb desisions that caused for such a short life. But he was a genious. He is up there with the Beatles and Elvis. Even a decade after his death people still thought he was alive. I was one of those people for the first like 5 years thinking he was still alive. Is it crippy today, Maui Wowie? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spjunkies Posted September 15, 2010 Share Posted September 15, 2010 Because he used to rap like thiiiiiiiis talking about his thug liiiiife. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BeachSkin Posted September 15, 2010 Share Posted September 15, 2010 Great question. I was watching the Tupac & Tyson 30 for 30 and Maya Angelou was gushing all about him...I was like WTF? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MintHillSkinsFan Posted September 15, 2010 Share Posted September 15, 2010 Because he died young. Same with that loser Kurt Cobain and you guys can flame me if you want but also Sean Taylor. All three had a certain amount of fame doing what they did and they all died at a young age and then all of a sudden they became the greatest that ever lived. At least according to their fanbase. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burgold Posted September 15, 2010 Share Posted September 15, 2010 Because he died young. Same with that loser Kurt Cobain and you guys can flame me if you want but also Sean Taylor.All three had a certain amount of fame doing what they did and they all died at a young age and then all of a sudden they became the greatest that ever lived. At least according to their fanbase. I think there's truth to that. People are projecting and saying what if... you get the same effect with Buddy Holly and even to an extent John Kennedy. They're imagining the potential left unfulfilled and filling in the blanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkinsRMoney06 Posted September 15, 2010 Share Posted September 15, 2010 I just think it was the way he rapped and his lyrics. Yeah he was not the best human being, but he put such raw emotion into his music that it comes out of the speakers and you can feel it. I always **** with Pac when im pissed off or just feeling crappy in general. C'mon "Keep your head up" is a song that anyone can feel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oldskool Posted September 15, 2010 Share Posted September 15, 2010 :munchout: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Brave Little Toaster Oven Posted September 15, 2010 Share Posted September 15, 2010 because he was born in Rikers Island Prison...that makes him cool Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blue collar Posted September 15, 2010 Author Share Posted September 15, 2010 Great question. I was watching the Tupac & Tyson 30 for 30 and Maya Angelou was gushing all about him...I was like WTF? The 30 for 30 episode is partially why I made this thread. People drool over him as if he's the second coming. I just don't understand it. And it's not about his music. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sticksboi05 Posted September 15, 2010 Share Posted September 15, 2010 Because he was an attention whore and people love attention whores ie Lady Gaga. B.I.G. was a better emcee anyway. We did a Biggie vs. Tupac poll here on ES. Dead even. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forehead Posted September 15, 2010 Share Posted September 15, 2010 because he was born in Rikers Island Prison...that makes him cool I'm going to assume this is a rap lyric of some sort, because it's false in general, and a careless statement to make if you were serious. He was born in Harlem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#98QBKiller Posted September 15, 2010 Share Posted September 15, 2010 He was a very talented rapper/actor/artist/performer His lyrics had meaning and often a positive message He had great beats and production He was a good person and a nice guy despite his image He wasn't full of ****, he lived the life he rapped about He died along the lines of the life he rapped about There's lots of mystique surrounding him and his story Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forehead Posted September 15, 2010 Share Posted September 15, 2010 He was a good person and a nice guy despite his image He wasn't full of ****, he lived the life he rapped about Most of what you're saying is true...but these two don't go together. If he truly lived the life he rapped about, he would be incredibly violent, which would not make him a nice guy nor a good person. Secondly, we could bring up things like the shooting of an off-duty police officer, the beating of a gang member in Vegas, or the jail time spent for sexual abuse (potential gangbang) of a woman. Talented yes...good guy and nice person...a stretch. I'm just not willing to let people make stuff up like "He was born in Rikers." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blue collar Posted September 15, 2010 Author Share Posted September 15, 2010 [*]He was a good person and a nice guy despite his image [*]He wasn't full of ****, he lived the life he rapped about [*]He died along the lines of the life he rapped about As the other poster pointed out, you can't have it both ways and that's the main problem I have with people who immortalizes him. On one hand he was a nice guy. On the other, he lived the lifestyle he rapped about. Are we talking about the same nice guy that hung around Suge Knight and was seen, along with Suge Knight beating up a guy just minutes before he was gunned down? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
desioreo87 Posted September 15, 2010 Share Posted September 15, 2010 Tupac is idolized because when he really put his heart into a track his lyrics were meaningful and very well articulated. Also, he provided critical insight into a world that many people will never experience, like me. His lyrics were far better than most rappers, only a select group can touch him on this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chachie Posted September 15, 2010 Share Posted September 15, 2010 He was a very talented rapper/actor/artist/performer His lyrics had meaning and often a positive message He had great beats and production He was a good person and a nice guy despite his image He wasn't full of ****, he lived the life he rapped about He died along the lines of the life he rapped about There's lots of mystique surrounding him and his story Tupac nut-hugger!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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