Renegade7 Posted December 11, 2009 Share Posted December 11, 2009 I hear a lot of people on hear saying they want Jerry Gray to be HC. Eh, I don't even know if I want him to be DC. Me, if you're going to bring in a new HC after just two years, he needs to pick all his own guys. Curious if anyone has the 411 on potential defensive cordinators for 2010. You know, HCs that might get fired, DCs with expiring contracts, or position coaches who are at the point of moving up. Or, if it makes you feel safe, should Jerry Gray be promoted to DC since Blache is likely retiring? Ya, so who's the next DC if Shanahan is the HC? I have no idea... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elkabong82 Posted December 11, 2009 Share Posted December 11, 2009 Gray likely could be promoted to DC. It would be ok, to keep in house, but I wouldn;t view it as a blockbuster move. I like what Olivadotti has done here, but I don;t believe he has enough qualifications for DC, though I could be wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darkhorse472 Posted December 11, 2009 Share Posted December 11, 2009 Blache will retire. Gray will be interviewed, but others will be interviewed as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drowland Posted December 11, 2009 Share Posted December 11, 2009 Shanahan changes defensive coaches like much he changes his underwear. Whoever it is, they won't last long. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bowhunter Posted December 11, 2009 Share Posted December 11, 2009 Big offensive lineman and smashmouth football wins games later in the year. Small "quick" offensive linemen lose 42-10 in Superbowls against big offensive linemen. Russ Grimm as HC please. Sorry, I digressed. Gray will be fine with me as DC as long as we have a HC and GM worthy of this organization Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flock53 Posted December 11, 2009 Share Posted December 11, 2009 Dick Juron as Dc, his defenses are always good, maybe bring over their ST coach also Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renegade7 Posted December 11, 2009 Author Share Posted December 11, 2009 Shanahan changes defensive coaches like much he changes his underwear. Whoever it is, they won't last long. Noted. Are the defenses usually an attacking style defense, or do the styles change with the cordinators he brings in? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rhodus333 Posted December 11, 2009 Share Posted December 11, 2009 Duh, Jim Zorn. There's no one in the world better at shutting down offensive production Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
[[ghost]] Posted December 11, 2009 Share Posted December 11, 2009 Big offensive lineman and smashmouth football wins games later in the year. Small "quick" offensive linemen lose 42-10 in Superbowls against big offensive linemen. Russ Grimm as HC please. Sorry, I digressed. Gray will be fine with me as DC as long as we have a HC and GM worthy of this organization It isn't 1997 anymore. The NFL is a passing league. Gone are the days of smashmouth football. Don't believe me? The Colts, Patriots, and Eagles have been the best NFL teams after November for years now. All of them are pass first. All that talk about how running wins games in the cold must have inspired defenses over the years. Cold weather doesn't just mean run heavy offense. It now means 8, maybe 9 men in the box. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cahones01 Posted December 11, 2009 Share Posted December 11, 2009 1997? wtf? I have a feeling he was talking about Super Bowl XXII. :doh: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soup Posted December 11, 2009 Share Posted December 11, 2009 It would have to be one of the coaches that are on the staff now right?? It would be a dumb move IMO if they changed the whole defensive staff. I would just keep the whole defensive staff as is, Blache is a solid DC, most of the mistakes you see on defense are dumb mistakes by the players Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
illone Posted December 11, 2009 Share Posted December 11, 2009 Last year Blache said he had one more year in him so we'll see if he even wants to coach again, let alone be retained. I hope they interview Kirk Olivadotti. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MartinC Posted December 11, 2009 Share Posted December 11, 2009 Big offensive lineman and smashmouth football wins games later in the year. Small "quick" offensive linemen lose 42-10 in Superbowls against big offensive linemen. Russ Grimm as HC please. That Super Bowl was in 1987 - the game has evolved. In addition Shanhan was not the coach for Denver in that game, it was Dan Reeves plus the Hogs while dominating that game did so against Denvers defense not their offensive line. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S.T.real,lights,out Posted December 11, 2009 Share Posted December 11, 2009 Renegade! I've been saying the same thing! If we bring in a new HC i want him to pick all of his own guys. I want Blache gone, Gray gone, Buges gone. It's time to do this the right way. The way every other NFL team has been doing for the last what? 15 years? :doh: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
REEGSKINS Posted December 11, 2009 Share Posted December 11, 2009 i think shanny and blatche have worked together in the past. i could be wrong though. i would like to see blatche retained. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcgraw238 Posted December 11, 2009 Share Posted December 11, 2009 There was some talk a while back that Shanny was visiting all teams that run the 34 defense. If Shanny is hired, I'd expect us to be running the 34 next season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warpath11 Posted December 11, 2009 Share Posted December 11, 2009 There was some talk a while back that Shanny was visiting all teams that run the 34 defense. If Shanny is hired, I'd expect us to be running the 34 next season. There would have to be big time changes in personel in order to do that, and with what Shanny will want to do on the offensive side of the ball there will just not be enough money/time to revamp the entire defense as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MartinC Posted December 11, 2009 Share Posted December 11, 2009 There was some talk a while back that Shanny was visiting all teams that run the 34 defense. If Shanny is hired, I'd expect us to be running the 34 next season. We don't have the personnel to run a 3-4. No NT, two great 4-3 DE's but no 3-4 DE's (assuming Daniels retires), question marks about how Fletcher and Rocky would transition to ILB roles in a 3-4 etc etc. Round holes, square pegs and lots of bits missing. If Shanny is smart (and I think he is) he will spend his time optimising the offense and hire a 4-3 D-Cordinator who he can shout "stop them" at just like Joe used to do with Richie Pettibon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TimmySmith Posted December 11, 2009 Share Posted December 11, 2009 Bob Slowik was Shanny's last DC and is currently unemployed. He is apparently an excellent secondary coach, which is a bonus. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stadium-Armory Posted December 11, 2009 Share Posted December 11, 2009 Ray Rhodes? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#98QBKiller Posted December 11, 2009 Share Posted December 11, 2009 This story is one reason why I don't want Shanny here: http://www.extremeskins.com/showthread.php?t=311246 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JCSMCPCCrskins Posted December 11, 2009 Share Posted December 11, 2009 Didnt Blache say he has one more year on his contract? I thought I remembered him mentioning that when he addressed the media standing up for snyder. If that is the case wouldnt he be here another year unless Snyder decided to get rid of him? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HigSkin Posted December 11, 2009 Share Posted December 11, 2009 Maybe the Steelers will be cleaning house next year and get rid of Dick LeBeau. He'd be a good one for a couple of years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darrelgreenie Posted December 11, 2009 Share Posted December 11, 2009 I hear a lot of people on hear saying they want Jerry Gray to be HC. Eh, I don't even know if I want him to be DC. Me, if you're going to bring in a new HC after just two years, he needs to pick all his own guys. Curious if anyone has the 411 on potential defensive cordinators for 2010. You know, HCs that might get fired, DCs with expiring contracts, or position coaches who are at the point of moving up.Or, if it makes you feel safe, should Jerry Gray be promoted to DC since Blache is likely retiring? Ya, so who's the next DC if Shanahan is the HC? I have no idea... Personally i would be happy with Coach Gray. I think he is far more creative then Greg Blache: http://www.nfl.com/videos/nfl-network-playbook/09000d5d80b21cf1/WK-4-Playbook-Jerry-Gray-at-the-Board http://www.nfl.com/videos/washington-redskins/09000d5d80b4f186/WK-4-Anatomy-Extra-Washington-Clever-Scheme-2 http://www.nfl.com/videos/washington-redskins/09000d5d80b4f1a9/WK-4-Anatomy-Skins-trick-Romo sits to pee-into-INT I really think Gray knows the game; the secondary was the strength of this team even when there was no pass rush last year and i think he's the reason our pass defense is ranked where it is now. I also give him credit for the drafting well in the secondary. Coach Gray has been a DC before and he was a HC candidate last year. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- Other coaches that i would look for are: Lovie Smith (if he gets fired), Dick Jauron, Raheem Morris (if he gets fired), Rod Marinelli Outside of the box choices: I've always liked Marvin Lewis defenses and he has been putting together a good 4-3 defense with the Bengals i would look for someone from his staff that knows his system: Kevin Coyle Defensive Backs; born January 14, 1956, Staten Island, N.Y. Defensive back Massachusetts 1975-77. No pro playing experience. College coach: Cincinnati 1978-79, Arkansas 1980, U.S. Merchant Marine Academy 1981, Holy Cross 1982-1990, Syracuse 1991-93, Maryland 1994-96, Fresno State 1997-2000. Pro coach: Joined Bengals in 2001. Jeff FitzGerald Linebackers; born April 18, 1960, Burbank, Calif. Linebacker Oregon State 1980. No pro playing experience. College coach: Cincinnati 1985-86, Alabama 1987-89, San Diego State 1994-97. Pro coach: Tampa Bay Buccaneers 1990-93, Washington Redskins 1998-99, Arizona Cardinals 2000-2003, Ravens 2004-2007, joined Bengals in 2008. Jay Hayes Defensive Line; born March 3, 1960, South Fayette, Pa. Defensive end Idaho 1978-1981. Pro defensive end/linebacker Michigan Panthers (USFL) 1984, Memphis Showboats (USFL) 1985. College coach: Notre Dame 1988-1991, California 1992-94, Wisconsin 1995-98. Pro coach: Pittsburgh Steelers 1999-2001, Minnesota Vikings 2002, joined Bengals in 2003. Even further outside the box from a different scheme (3-4) but learned under the guidance from Dick LeBeau: Keith Butler Linebackers; born May 16, 1956, Anniston, Ala. Linebacker Memphis 1974-77. Pro linebacker Seattle Seahawks 1978-1987. College coach: Memphis 1990-97, Arkansas State 1998. Pro coach: Cleveland Browns 1999-2002, joined Steelers in 2003. John Mitchell Asst. Head Coach/Defensive Line; born October 14, 1951, Mobile, Ala. Defensive end Eastern Arizona J.C. 1969-1970, Alabama 1971-72. No pro playing experience. College coach: Alabama 1973-76, Arkansas 1977-1982, Temple 1986, Louisiana State 1987-1990. Pro coach: Birmingham Stallions (USFL) 1983-85, Cleveland Browns 1991-93, joined Steelers in 1994. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wvtbred Posted December 11, 2009 Share Posted December 11, 2009 Dick Juron as Dc, his defenses are always good, maybe bring over their ST coach also Well the HC "should" be able to pick all of his staff but this is DC after all. I would be happy with Juron as DC and would LOVE to see Grimm come home as HC but think Shanny is the chosen one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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