Koolblue13 Posted November 30, 2009 Share Posted November 30, 2009 wow its hard to believe that Joe Montana was drafted 30 years ago!!! Man he was awesome! Man, I'm old. :hysterical: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
morpheusmeyers Posted November 30, 2009 Share Posted November 30, 2009 Clausen is an absolute stud. If we're going QB in the first round, he's an absolute must-target in my opinion. Clausen is without a doubt in my mind at the moment the top prospect in this draft, then guys like Bradford, Locker and Pike probably come into play... But I don't see how you can pass on Tebow or McCoy if they are there in round 2. For what it's worth, www.nfldraftdown.com has us taking Clausen in their most recent mock draft that came out earlier this month. They have Locker as the top QB off the board, then Bradford, then Clausen. But all in the top 10. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HailToTheRedskins14 Posted November 30, 2009 Share Posted November 30, 2009 Spend a first rounder on OT 2nd round goes to Snead, Bradford, Mallett, Pike, McCoy in that order. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Da Truth Posted November 30, 2009 Share Posted November 30, 2009 Honestly, I don't see whats wrong with grabbing one of these stud QBs 1st round and then piling on the Olineman afterwards Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
morpheusmeyers Posted November 30, 2009 Share Posted November 30, 2009 Spend a first rounder on OT2nd round goes to Snead, Bradford, Mallett, Pike, McCoy in that order. The thing I don't like about Snead is his low completion %. I think Bradford is a sure 1st rounder, despite his injury. McCoy in the 2nd is intriguing. Noticed that you are from Augusta, GA. Ever make it to the Soul Bar downtown? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HailToTheRedskins14 Posted November 30, 2009 Share Posted November 30, 2009 The thing I don't like about Snead is his low completion %. I think Bradford is a sure 1st rounder, despite his injury. McCoy in the 2nd is intriguing. Noticed that you are from Augusta, GA. Ever make it to the Soul Bar downtown? Snead, to me is a guy that passes the look test. He's on a pretty bad team this year. I don't think he would be able to step in right away and win, but with some time on the bench I think he'd be okay. I think he has the potential to be kinda like Cutler when Cutler is on. McCoy I'm not too impressed with but who knows. I just think we can wait until the 2nd round to draft a QB and still get a solid guy. The depth, to me, is worth waiting for as I'm not too impressed with the very top guys. And who knows where Bradford falls to. I wouldn't mind taking him in the 2nd either. And yes, I've hit up the Soul Bar plenty times. Can't beat some disco followed by Biggie Smalls! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mhd24 Posted November 30, 2009 Share Posted November 30, 2009 RYan Mallett is the most physically talented pocket passer to come into the draft since Carson Palmer. You never pass on franchise QB talents. If Mallett stays, he's a lock for the #1 overall in 2011. If he declares, he's going top 10. Considering this is his first year starting and the fact that he's best QB in the SEC, plays in a pro style offense, it would be foolish to pass on Mallett. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HailToTheRedskins14 Posted November 30, 2009 Share Posted November 30, 2009 RYan Mallett is the most physically talented pocket passer to come into the draft since Carson Palmer.You never pass on franchise QB talents. If Mallett stays, he's a lock for the #1 overall in 2011. If he declares, he's going top 10. Considering this is his first year starting and the fact that he's best QB in the SEC, plays in a pro style offense, it would be foolish to pass on Mallett. Mallett will be just like Jason Campbell and Jamarcus Russell. He can throw it from endzone to endzone on his knees with a flick of the wrist but doesn't have the accuracy to hit a 15 yard post. IMO of course. Dude definitely has the looks and his feet are deceptively quick, but I don't think it'll click for Mallett at the next level. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lombardi's_kid_brother Posted November 30, 2009 Share Posted November 30, 2009 Tebow has a "We will NOT lose attitude" its hard to be a bust when you play the game like that. :2cents: Until DeMarcus Ware or James Harrison is pressuring him and Tebow realizes that he has never executed a five-step drop in front of an NFL pass rush before. Tebow is intriguing, but he does nothing that makes me think "NFL QB." I hope I'm wrong, because I would love nothing more than for the NFL to be revolutionized. But Michael Vick did not reinvent the QB position and neither did Vince Young. So I doubt Tebow does either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lombardi's_kid_brother Posted November 30, 2009 Share Posted November 30, 2009 Mallett will be just like Jason Campbell and Jamarcus Russell. He can throw it from endzone to endzone on his knees with a flick of the wrist but doesn't have the accuracy to hit a 15 yard post. IMO of course. Dude definitely has the looks and his feet are deceptively quick, but I don't think it'll click for Mallett at the next level. There is not a huge line of highly successful super-tall QBs. I think tall guys like Mallet have a hard time in getting the ball out quickly. They are kind of like dinosaurs; it takes a long time for the signal to travel from the brain to the tail or something. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#98QBKiller Posted November 30, 2009 Share Posted November 30, 2009 There is not a huge line of highly successful super-tall QBs. I think tall guys like Mallet have a hard time in getting the ball out quickly. They are kind of like dinosaurs; it takes a long time for the signal to travel from the brain to the tail or something. :laugh: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mahons21 Posted November 30, 2009 Share Posted November 30, 2009 Spend a first rounder on OT2nd round goes to Snead, Bradford, Mallett, Pike, McCoy in that order. -And if there isn't an OT worth of a top 10 pick when we're on the board? We need to spend our 1st rounder on the BPA that isn't a WR/CB/DL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mahons21 Posted November 30, 2009 Share Posted November 30, 2009 There is not a huge line of highly successful super-tall QBs. I think tall guys like Mallet have a hard time in getting the ball out quickly. They are kind of like dinosaurs; it takes a long time for the signal to travel from the brain to the tail or something. -Add to that its much more difficult for these QB's to be explosive on there dropback. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff in D.C. Posted November 30, 2009 Share Posted November 30, 2009 Didn't Pike quit his high school team because he took a hard hit? Didn't his father pretty much force him to go back to the team? Tough? So you're going to condemn the kid for a decision he made when he was 15-16? Yeah because him "not being tough" at 15-16 means he still isn't at 21-22 right? Maybe he learned something from that experience and has become much better for it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TotalRecall Posted December 1, 2009 Share Posted December 1, 2009 It's interesting to note that Charlie Weis was 19-6 the 2 seasons before Clausen. Clausen...coach killer? Clausen was 3-7 his first season and was 13-12 his past 2 seasons. This season, the ND defense was below average, but their 6 losses this season were a TD or less. The last 4 games that killed the season and Charlie Weis as their HC was mainly the result of turnovers. In those last 4 games, ND had 8 turnovers (only 2 takeaways) and Clausen either fumbled or was intercepted 6 times. For the season, the turnover ratio was 14 turnovers to 19 takeaways. The ND defense wasn't great, but they're blame for the 6-6 season is overblown. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oldskool Posted December 1, 2009 Share Posted December 1, 2009 personally, i the order of preference for qbs is this for me1- Colt Mccoy- Does nothing but win, quick release, accurate, a leader, and after seeing him in that Texas A&M game, running and passing? A monster qb in the nfl. 2- Clausen- Just has it all. Quick release, smart, leader, but didnt put the wins together like Colt, albeit he did have inferior talent. 3- Tebow- Will be a player who changes the way the game is played. Has played well in all phases of the game and is the best leader of the group. Who wouldnt want a guy with as much passion and fire for the game as Tebow has? 4-Bradford- He has it all, but injury questions drop him and id rather have a qb who has proven himself at the lower level more then 1 season. 5- Locker- Accuracy was an issue but really good when moving with the ball. 6- It doesnt matter i really only want one of the top 3, would be ok with bradford and not be too happy with locker. Edit- You dont pass a qb when you have a class like this. O line can be taken in the second and fourth round along with a free agent who has proven his play and we have a shot at an average to good line. Ill take a franchise qb with an average line over jason campbell and a great line any day. If the Pros = College football you'd be right. However that isn't the case. McCoy has huge weaknesses in arm strength, doesn't play under center, system QB, etc. Clausen is about the most polished and technically ready QB in the draft but lacks big game experience. Tebow- See McCoy. He wins but really isn Vince Young Lite and would need years to correct his mechanics and for him to learn how to read NFL defenses. Bradford- non pro set offense, limited under center experience and injury concerns. Locker-Still raw and probably (and should) go back for his senior year and more experience in a pro set offense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PorkSkins Posted December 1, 2009 Share Posted December 1, 2009 I would look past the first round. We don't need Clausen. We need OL first. We can pick up a QB in the later rounds like Dan Lefevour-CM or John Skelton-Fordham. Fix the line first, draft a RB, and then look for a QB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrJL Posted December 1, 2009 Share Posted December 1, 2009 Apparently some of the currents players aren't impressed with Claussen or McCoy. When their names were mentioned to a lineman on the team, he rolled his eyes and said "this is the NFL." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gregpeck99 Posted December 1, 2009 Share Posted December 1, 2009 I agree 100% with everybody. Any one of these guys is a drastic upgrade over Campbell. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff in D.C. Posted December 1, 2009 Share Posted December 1, 2009 There are differences of opinion here with every QB that's been discussed. As a few people have said, none of it matters until a new GM & coach are brought in and figure out which QB best fits the offense and is the best fit for the structure of the team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michiskin Posted December 1, 2009 Share Posted December 1, 2009 http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2009/writers/dan_shaughnessy/11/30/randolph/ Interesting article about the Holy Cross QB, Dominic Randolph. Perhaps he is worth taking a late-round flier on? If we HAVE to take a QB earlier, I'm praying it's Dan LeFeavour. The kid is money at Central Michigan (and this comes from a Western Michigan grad that pretty much hates all things Chippewas). If the best available offensive lineman isn't worth of our draft position, we need to move down and be able to draft two big uglies that are worthy of their slots. I will not debate this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TotalRecall Posted December 1, 2009 Share Posted December 1, 2009 McCoy has huge weaknesses in arm strength, doesn't play under center, system QB, etc. There's nothing wrong with McCoy's arm strength. Watch MNF...the Pats and the Saints will throw a lot from a shotgun spread formation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whatmeworry Posted December 1, 2009 Share Posted December 1, 2009 http://www.yardbarker.com/all_sports/articles/DMV_The_Redskins_Are_Looking_at_Jimmy_Clausen_as_Their_Next_Quarterback/1629460Do think this guy is gonna be good at the next level. Super accurate, quick release, gutty, and a leader. Just really think we should shore up the o-line first. Sounds like Chase Daniels or Colt Brennan to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlackBush Posted December 1, 2009 Share Posted December 1, 2009 Apparently some of the currents players aren't impressed with Claussen or McCoy. When their names were mentioned to a lineman on the team, he rolled his eyes and said "this is the NFL." Wait... A lineman on our team wants to comment on how someone is not ready for the NFL? :doh: Edit: unless it is a D-lineman Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZoEd Posted December 2, 2009 Share Posted December 2, 2009 Clausen makes sense because of this http://wiki.answers.com/Q/Who_has_the_biggest_fan_base_in_college_football Largest fanbase = more jersey sales Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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