wvtbred Posted August 13, 2009 Share Posted August 13, 2009 Sage has never won the starting job in his 8 seasons as a pro. I'd take JC over Sage anyday, and it's not even close. We'll agree to disagree. HTTR Neither has Jason it was given to him Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pray4surf Posted August 13, 2009 Share Posted August 13, 2009 Neither has Jason it was given to him A pro football coach saw enough in JC to give him the starting spot. Sage can only dream about that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BRAVEONAWARPATH Posted August 13, 2009 Share Posted August 13, 2009 I really am interested, what teams? 1.)Tampa--Until Josh Freeman (thier rookie QB) is ready to play. 2.)Cleveland 3.)Minnesota 4.)NY Jets--Until Mark Sanchez is ready to play 5.)San Francisco 6.)Oakland (Assuming Jamarcus Russell doesn't work out.) That's about it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wvtbred Posted August 13, 2009 Share Posted August 13, 2009 A pro football coach saw enough in JC to give him the starting spot. Sage can only dream about that. That doesn't make the decision right. It will be interesting in Minn's camp this year but I have seen Sage listed in a FFL listing of QB's. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wvtbred Posted August 13, 2009 Share Posted August 13, 2009 1.)Tampa--Until Josh Freeman (thier rookie QB) is ready to play.2.)Cleveland 3.)Minnesota 4.)NY Jets--Until Mark Sanchez is ready to play 5.)San Francisco 6.)Oakland (Assuming Jamarcus Russell doesn't work out.) That's about it. 1.)Tampa--OK 2.)Cleveland - No way. I would take either of those two over Jason in a heartbeat. 3.)Minnesota - Not me but I understand why. 4.)NY Jets--No they are set. 5.)San Francisco- NO, I would take Hill or Huard (#3) over Jason 6.)Oakland - This is the ONE team I really see him having a shot to play with. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skinz4Life12 Posted August 13, 2009 Share Posted August 13, 2009 7. Washington Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eljeasel Posted August 13, 2009 Share Posted August 13, 2009 Go kick some butt in that scrimmage Jason! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SirClintonPortis Posted August 14, 2009 Share Posted August 14, 2009 In the preseason game, Campbell said that Betts was the 4th read and that Hagans wasn't even a read in the respective plays. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pray4surf Posted August 14, 2009 Share Posted August 14, 2009 JC was ok last night. He really needs to be more accurate when it counts;third and long in the regular season. Not a good night for the B & G. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluecrab Posted August 14, 2009 Share Posted August 14, 2009 JC looked typical last night. The first couple of passes were on target and then as the game progressed, JC regressed. It's going to be a long season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mbws Posted August 14, 2009 Share Posted August 14, 2009 Sanchez' first pass from his own 7 to 45 yard line. First Drive 3 of 4 for 88 yards. Drive ended in a rushing TD. Just played the one series. Three OL starters not playing. Not to imply we should have traded away picks for him. Just Saying. FTR I'm in The Camp of Campbell. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhiAlpha Posted August 15, 2009 Share Posted August 15, 2009 With Campbell, Zorn and our OL I am very concerned. Taking a realistic look, not a redskins headboy think we can win every game view, i see us winning 7 games. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustAfan47 Posted August 18, 2009 Share Posted August 18, 2009 Against the Ravens last Thursday, Campbell played two offensive series and completed 3-of-6 passes for 38 yards. He converted three first downs, but he was not able to guide the offense across midfield on either drive. Dont to bad of a night for JC i mean 3 of 6 turned into first downs... I cant wait still sat. I will finally get to see a game on live TV... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wvtbred Posted August 18, 2009 Share Posted August 18, 2009 Dont to bad of a night for JC i mean 3 of 6 turned into first downs...I cant wait still sat. I will finally get to see a game on live TV... Turned 3 into 1st downs? Not really the first was thrown 3 yards (another dump pass) that the blockers and runner "turned" into a first down. ARE's was put low were it should have been but I still (after watching it 3 times) don't thing ARE caught it. The best was the one to Cooley. Todd had more success moving the ball down the field. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KokoMike Posted August 18, 2009 Share Posted August 18, 2009 How low is the bar being set for Jason? Even if he has a poor year, he will still get millions and millions of dollars in his next NFL contract. That is why he is not worried at all about signing a new contract anytime soon. The bar is sitting on the ground for him. What motivates this guy? Anything? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
terpskins10 Posted August 18, 2009 Share Posted August 18, 2009 How low is the bar being set for Jason?Even if he has a poor year, he will still get millions and millions of dollars in his next NFL contract. That is why he is not worried at all about signing a new contract anytime soon. The bar is sitting on the ground for him. What motivates this guy? Anything? I'd like to know how you came to all those conclusions about Campbell. Because you dislike him isn't an answer, btw. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SolidSnake84 Posted August 18, 2009 Share Posted August 18, 2009 A pro football coach saw enough in JC to give him the starting spot. Sage can only dream about that. Joe Gibbs was facing an unhappy fanbase and a meddling owner in 2006 when he had to make the decision to bench Mark Brunell, the steady, but unspectacular QB who led the skins to the playoffs the year before. JC has been the default starter since then. He didnt win or "play for" anything. And too coincidental that Gibbs says there would be a QB competition had he stayed. Then Gibbs retires, and Zorn comes in. According to Jim Fassell, Zorn is hired because he is the only guy who will let campbell be the "unquestioned" starter. This was covered last year in the numerous threads about the HC search. Fassell and a few others said the same thing.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RocketCitySkins Posted August 18, 2009 Share Posted August 18, 2009 Then Gibbs retires, and Zorn comes in. According to Jim Fassell, Zorn is hired because he is the only guy who will let campbell be the "unquestioned" starter. This was covered last year in the numerous threads about the HC search. Fassell and a few others said the same thing.. No, several posters claimed they heard or read reports that other coaching candidates said the same thing. I never saw one link to back up their claims. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wvtbred Posted August 18, 2009 Share Posted August 18, 2009 I'd like to know how you came to all those conclusions about Campbell. Because you dislike him isn't an answer, btw. 16-20, 13 TDs last year, the way the team looked MUCH better when he came out in 2007, the way he couldn't start for most other teams in the NFL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KokoMike Posted August 18, 2009 Share Posted August 18, 2009 I'd like to know how you came to all those conclusions about Campbell. Because you dislike him isn't an answer, btw. I like Campbell. I couldn't tell from your comment whether you do or not. As far as why i believe he will get big money regardless of whether he has a poor season, the following: Campbell has a strong arm, and is a big guy, prototypical for an NFL QB. He is still young, and has had no really major injuries. He has been in the league for a few years now, and has been exposed to a variety of offenses and defenses. He probably has more unrealized potential than any QB in the league. Being a black QB is an advantage for him in several regards. The NFL needs black QBs. It is a fact, indisputable. This has nothing to do with whether he would get unfair consideration, positively or negatively. It does have a lot to do with the NFL brand. NFL teams are in the business to make money. An NFL team will pay Jason Campbell a lot of money because the return on investment will be high, automatically, and if he blossoms, the potential return could be enormous. I hope this helps you. I am more interested in what motivates him, and that factor is hugely vital to the success of the Washington Redskins. I follow the Skins very closely, as I have been a season ticket holder for now 32 years. Have I disliked his performance? Yes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DGREENHULK Posted August 18, 2009 Share Posted August 18, 2009 16-20, 13 TDs last year, the way the team looked MUCH better when he came out in 2007, the way he couldn't start for most other teams in the NFL. In the Sports Illustrated special they had JC ranked 20th...that means he COULD start for 12 other teams... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wvtbred Posted August 18, 2009 Share Posted August 18, 2009 In the Sports Illustrated special they had JC ranked 20th...that means he COULD start for 12 other teams... Rankings are done with certain criteria in mind. What did they use and do you have a link? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustAfan47 Posted August 18, 2009 Share Posted August 18, 2009 Turned 3 into 1st downs? Not really the first was thrown 3 yards (another dump pass) that the blockers and runner "turned" into a first down. ARE's was put low were it should have been but I still (after watching it 3 times) don't thing ARE caught it. The best was the one to Cooley.Todd had more success moving the ball down the field. Sorry i'm just going off what i read i did not get a chance to watch the game but anyways this is were i got my info.. http://www.redskins.com/gen/articles/News___Notes__Campbell_Talks__Tough__47062.jspAgainst the Ravens last Thursday, Campbell played two offensive series and completed 3-of-6 passes for 38 yards. He converted three first downs, but he was not able to guide the offense across midfield on either drive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcarey032 Posted August 19, 2009 Share Posted August 19, 2009 I thought that Campbell's performance from the preseason game was OK. He got a C from me. He moved the ball somewhat, he made some one bad throw on third down, but I really couldn't blame him for that because Cooley and Betts missed that block and let Ray Lewis come in the middle and put the pressure on Campbell. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JdoubleU Posted August 19, 2009 Share Posted August 19, 2009 Count me in! IMO I would like to see him in a different type of Offense (similar to BALT or PITT), but all across the board, we have the wrong type of players to be effective in the WCO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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