The Evil Genius Posted November 25, 2008 Share Posted November 25, 2008 Oh come on, SS. This is from the same crew that said disagreeing with the President was anti-American and disagreeing with a wartime President was treason.If that ain't worship I don't know what is. Mention Ronald Reagan too them and see them go all teary eyed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rincewind Posted November 25, 2008 Share Posted November 25, 2008 I don't know about the Kennedy years, but I do remember the Reagan years. Obama hasn't reached the level of teflon Ronnie had with repubs so I'm not sure why conservatives have their panties in such a bunch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zoony Posted November 25, 2008 Share Posted November 25, 2008 I thought this was a thread for non-obama voters lmao Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spaceman Spiff Posted November 25, 2008 Share Posted November 25, 2008 Oh come on, SS. This is from the same crew that said disagreeing with the President was anti-American and disagreeing with a wartime President was treason.If that ain't worship I don't know what is. I never said all that. I've never understood politician hero worship. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burgold Posted November 25, 2008 Share Posted November 25, 2008 I thought this was a thread for non-obama voterslmao you should know better. A title like that is like a contrarian clarion call. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Special K Posted November 25, 2008 Share Posted November 25, 2008 I thought this was a thread for non-obama voterslmao I was thinking the same thing. I click on this thread out of pure curiosity and the first response I see......BURGOLD. lolol As for Obama, I think it's premature to judge his presidency...as he has done nothing as official president yet and his senate record is too small to even try to attempt to figure out how he's going to govern. I am worried by the increasing chatter I hear about more bailouts, increasing the deficit even more, etc. That makes me uncomfortable, but again, we'll just have to wait and see how he does. His cabinet is whatever. I'm not at all big on Hillary as Sec. of State and I really, really, really dislike Daschle, but everyone else I'm pretty neutral about. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
techboy Posted November 25, 2008 Share Posted November 25, 2008 Why wouldn't you like Kennedy? He cut taxes and was tough with the Russkies. Sounds like your kind of guy to me, right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
88Comrade2000 Posted November 25, 2008 Share Posted November 25, 2008 Those who are opposed to him in one fashion or another will probably never change their opinions. Especially die hard conservatives or libertarians. Obama will be pushing things that go against what they believe. I voted for Ron Barr. I can't stand all Obama worship. I will give him a shot though before passing any judgment. I do hope he does something for healthcare. I've had an uncle who so far is surving his bout with colon cancer. My parents don't have healthcare and my dad is a doctor. Preexisting conditions. Even I will run out of healthcare once my cobra insurance expires next fall. Of course, if I finally get some sort of job maybe that will change. I will pay a little more for having preexisting conditions but would like to be able to get insurance. If I don't like what Obama is doing, then in 2010 I can vote for a different congress to hold him in check. If he can turn things around and some of the things he wants to do is accomplished and doesn't make things worse; then he could go down as one of the greatests ever. I don't think that will happen but we will see. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
88Comrade2000 Posted November 25, 2008 Share Posted November 25, 2008 Conservatives had their shot and they blew it. They were so hungry for power after the Clinton years; they nominate a faux conservative. George Bush acted as democrats on many things. He cared and the republican congress cared more about expanding their power; so they expanded government. No wonder, they lost in 2006 and 2008. Now, Liberals have control and we will see what they do. If they fail and **** things up; then I could see an independent candidate win the presidency in 2012. If the democrats fail; then Americans will be so disgusted they will be ready to try something different and it won't be another Republican. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
expensivegift Posted November 25, 2008 Share Posted November 25, 2008 I was a big McCain guy because I thought he was more moderate. I am pleasantly surprised to hear that Obama will be running center of left administration very similiar to the Clinton administration. He is thinking about keeping Robert Gates as Secretary of Defense and I hope he does. Obama is also thinking about keeping the Bush Tax Cuts as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
herrmag Posted November 25, 2008 Share Posted November 25, 2008 I was a big McCain guy because I thought he was more moderate. I am pleasantly surprised to hear that Obama will be running center of left administration very similiar to the Clinton administration. He is thinking about keeping Robert Gates as Secretary of Defense and I hope he does. Obama is also thinking about keeping the Bush Tax Cuts as well. Pretty much the saving grace of him getting elected. I actually thought most of his positions (not all) were ridiculous and were stated only to get elected. I'm glad I was correct. He might be a decent president after all. Whoops, I didn't vote for him...Am I allowed to post in this thread? He and McCain ultimately aren't that far off. Both lean towards the center, despite the rhetoric they had to preach in order to get the nomination. I look forward to some real bi-partisan work ahead. Hopefully, unlike Bush, it wasn't all talk. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skinsfan07 Posted November 25, 2008 Share Posted November 25, 2008 Good to see you gave the guy a fair shot. Of course they're not. And we all know why...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
noshirtforyou Posted November 25, 2008 Share Posted November 25, 2008 :cry::cry::cry::cry: :laugh: you guys are a bunch of female dogs. wake up and realize it didn't even matter which of them was elected, the results for the most part will be the same. Oh by the way, Obama was by far a better candidate, who the HELL wants 4 years of a really old idiot who's basically married to oil companies? Oh and did I mention he agreed with Bush's policies 90% of the time? Enough said, close thread. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thiebear Posted November 25, 2008 Share Posted November 25, 2008 So far me and Obama agree 90%. I'm liking this far right guy That bailout stuff sucks, but is across the board. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Special K Posted November 25, 2008 Share Posted November 25, 2008 Of course they're not. And we all know why...... Please elaborate. Why would that be? :cry::cry::cry::cry: :laugh: you guys are a bunch of female dogs. wake up and realize it didn't even matter which of them was elected, the results for the most part will be the same. Oh by the way, Obama was by far a better candidate, who the HELL wants 4 years of a really old idiot who's basically married to oil companies? Oh and did I mention he agreed with Bush's policies 90% of the time? Enough said, close thread. With the intelligence you displayed in that post...I now see why you are NNT'd... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
noshirtforyou Posted November 25, 2008 Share Posted November 25, 2008 Please elaborate. Why would that be? With the intelligence you displayed in that post...I now see why you are NNT'd... whatever gets you through the night bro Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Major Harris Posted November 25, 2008 Share Posted November 25, 2008 I don't know about the Kennedy years, but I do remember the Reagan years. Obama hasn't reached the level of teflon Ronnie had with repubs so I'm not sure why conservatives have their panties in such a bunch. you really made those observations at 8,9, 10 years old? why aren't you an engineer or a doctor? :nana: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Major Harris Posted November 25, 2008 Share Posted November 25, 2008 Of course they're not. And we all know why...... define "they" as it pertains to this thread. and elaborate. that's a hit and run cheap shot for punks. i thought you better than that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ldysknzfn1 Posted November 25, 2008 Share Posted November 25, 2008 I didn't vote for him either but I knew he would win. Like someone else said he sold himself really well and folks bought it. Nothing wrong w/that. However, I've never seen a President elect get so much press. It's weird...like having 2 presidents at one time. I wish him well and hope he won't disappoint his supporters. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burgold Posted November 25, 2008 Share Posted November 25, 2008 I think that's what most hope even those who've already thrown in the towel on him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
USS Redskins Posted November 25, 2008 Author Share Posted November 25, 2008 I realize I'm not your market, but I must say... you really went all out in giving him a chance. Why you lasted a whole two months before he ever became President before throwing him overboard. The man isn't even President and you've washed your hands. That's like giving up on the Redskins during OTA's and not even making it to preseason. I couldnt get back to this thread til this morning.... so, I really meant the thread for Non-Obama guys, yes but I appreaciate you reading and commenting. I probably will give him a chance - nothing else to do as he is the pres-elct. I cant wish him bad luck as that is unpatriotic... I was def. pissed for a week or so about the election but as that faded, the non-stop Obama praising has really taken its toll. As you are a probable Obama voter, I can see why you would find this thread silly. I guess I just wanted to vent to some other non-Obama voters. You always seem to be an honest, somewhat partisan, guy. You really dont feel that the Obama-mania is getting a little silly? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
USS Redskins Posted November 25, 2008 Author Share Posted November 25, 2008 he actually is complaining about the circle jerk that's been going on all around obama. he has very little to say about obama in all of that.if there was one thing that i had to consciously ignore so as not to let something that is insignificant in the end sway my vote, it was that. the hollywood celebrity / pop icon status that obama obtained really, really turned me off. in the end, i realized it was just basically marketing genius by his camp. edit: damn, i skipped a pretty important line.....can't give the guy a chance already? really? my bad burgold. I will give him a chance. You have to. It's not him, though he is kind of smug sometimes, its the circus around him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
USS Redskins Posted November 25, 2008 Author Share Posted November 25, 2008 In what way did you want to give him a chance? What has he done to make you no longer willing to give him a chance? Named a cabinet? I wanted to and probably will give him a chance. Its mostly just venting because its so phony to me. I get that he is the first black man to be elected but past that it is lost on me. I guess I just dont "get it." I never bought into Bush's "Compassionate Conservative" BS or Reagan being the modern Lincoln or whatever. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burgold Posted November 25, 2008 Share Posted November 25, 2008 I couldnt get back to this thread til this morning.... so, I really meant the thread for Non-Obama guys, yes but I appreaciate you reading and commenting. I probably will give him a chance - nothing else to do as he is the pres-elct. I cant wish him bad luck as that is unpatriotic... I was def. pissed for a week or so about the election but as that faded, the non-stop Obama praising has really taken its toll. As you are a probable Obama voter, I can see why you would find this thread silly. I guess I just wanted to vent to some other non-Obama voters. You always seem to be an honest, somewhat partisan, guy. You really dont feel that the Obama-mania is getting a little silly? Oh, in some places it's downright assinine. I think it is also a bit heightened this go around. (See my drowning man thread), but I thought the anti-American stuff was crazy too. I will say that I got the blues too when Bush was re-elected. That's pretty normal. I foresaw bad things for this country and thought he was leading us in a bad direction. I'm not honestly sure if Obama can captain us to a safe port. I like his pragmatism, his confidence, and what I gleem of his intellect. I can easily understand why someone would get frustrated with the idea of an Obama presidency, because in some ways it does announce a change in course which likely will be in direct contradiction to conservative principles. I just think that this thread should have come out in six months, so it could have a little more meat to it, but hopefully in six months you'll be singing his praises too. I fervently hope that he becomes a great president, because I think we need one (and not because I think he will be one) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
USS Redskins Posted November 25, 2008 Author Share Posted November 25, 2008 Oh, in some places it's downright assinine. I think it is also a bit heightened this go around. (See my drowning man thread), but I thought the anti-American stuff was crazy too.I will say that I got the blues too when Bush was re-elected. That's pretty normal. I foresaw bad things for this country and thought he was leading us in a bad direction. I'm not honestly sure if Obama can captain us to a safe port. I like his pragmatism, his confidence, and what I gleem of his intellect. I can easily understand why someone would get frustrated with the idea of an Obama presidency, because in some ways it does announce a change in course which likely will be in direct contradiction to conservative principles. I just think that this thread should have come out in six months, so it could have a little more meat to it, but hopefully in six months you'll be singing his praises too. I fervently hope that he becomes a great president, because I think we need one (and not because I think he will be one) Honestly, I am not that big of a conservative - somewhat yes, but the reason I voted McCain is that he had a 2 decade record of working with democrats and he was a liberal republican on many issues. I thought he was the guy we needed to right the ship... its def. busted. Maybe Obama can do it but his senate voting record shows he is pretty one sided. I cant stand that he has brought Hillary into his cabinet. That is just nonsense but his Economic announcement was rec'd well by Wall Street, so thats good. As for the 6 months - I wanted to get a jump on the negativity... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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