zCommander Posted January 26, 2008 Share Posted January 26, 2008 Seriously, who hires an O-Coordinator without hiring a Head Coach? Jerry Jones did it but he did it knowing that he was grooming Garrett to take over as the Head Coach. I don't see that same situation existing with Zorn.I'm just so confused. There is just nothing logical going on here. You can't look at any of this and say definitively, "Dan Snyder's plan is ......." What the hell is the plan here? It is called the smart business plan. It doesn't make sense to us but only to a business man who probably knows more about marketing then some of us here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Long-Time-Fan Posted January 26, 2008 Share Posted January 26, 2008 But if we win, that's cool, it'll just look weird for a bit until I get used to it.Anyone else feel that way, or is it just me? It will be wierd Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
armada58 Posted January 26, 2008 Share Posted January 26, 2008 Hopefully we will run some west coast type offense... actually bring in starting WR over 6'1 NO!! Tampa Bay is the only West Coast Team this century to win a Super Bowl. The West Coast is DONE!! Ineffective in today's NFL. Look at the playoffs teams.......... Washington Seattle Tampa NY Giants Dallas Green Bay Pittsburgh Jacksonville Houston San Diego Indianapolis New England Only 3 out 12 teams run a West Coast (Seattle, GB, Tampa) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
armada58 Posted January 26, 2008 Share Posted January 26, 2008 It is called the smart business plan. It doesn't make sense to us but only to a business man who probably knows more about marketing then some of us here. Marketing Strategies don't win football games. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GOSKINS_08 Posted January 26, 2008 Share Posted January 26, 2008 Maybe he can bring D.J Hacket with him! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redman Posted January 26, 2008 Share Posted January 26, 2008 what a looserSo I geuss it was Joe Gibbs who made all those blocks/caught all those TD's in the 80's huh? Funny you should ask. No it wasn't in fact. It happened to be an offense with a good sized WR and a QB who they actually trusted to make plays rather than playing so conservatively that it made Martyball look adventurous. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redman Posted January 26, 2008 Share Posted January 26, 2008 It is called the smart business plan. It doesn't make sense to us but only to a business man who probably knows more about marketing then some of us here. Great, we're using a business plan to run a football team! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCMONEY Posted January 26, 2008 Share Posted January 26, 2008 Its funny how in the last 2 playoff appearances the Skins decide to Change the offense. While in both playoff appearances the offense has struggled, the Skins brass never analyze the main problem. When the Skins went 10-6 a couple years back, it was Brunell who held this offense back but Gibbs stuck by him. Gibbs instead brought in Saunders and changed the whole offense. This year I saw the main problem being a banged up offensive line. Now their changing again. Vinny Cerrato is obviously intent on making the Skins the 49ers of the East. Seattle a couple years back had Walter Jones, Steve Hutchinson on the line and Mack Strong at full back. Alexander and Hasselback flourished behind those guys. It takes a capable healthy offensive line. I bleed burgundy and gold but I have to just now lower my expectations when it comes to the Skins because its ridiculous. That way I won't get as upset. I'm sick and tired of the clown off seasons. I'll just sit back and hope one day things will be different. Snyder just got through preaching patience and he goes and does this. You gotta laugh to keep from getting mad. :doh: :laugh: :doh: :laugh: :logo: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zCommander Posted January 26, 2008 Share Posted January 26, 2008 Great, we're using a business plan to run a football team! The poster orginally said it doesn't make any sense to hire a OC before a HC. I said it was a smart business move. I am not sure how you think football is not a business. People pay money to go to the games. He is making sure fans are not lost by choosing the wrong HC so he is taking his time to do that or GW is going to be the HC and doesn't want you to know about it. It builds excitement. Maybe you might not be but I have no problem with waiting for the right HC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TotalRecall Posted January 26, 2008 Share Posted January 26, 2008 I think Zorn will do a good job. Hopefully, we will get Spagnuolo as the HC and he can pick the DC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scuppajones Posted January 26, 2008 Share Posted January 26, 2008 I love this move. The Al Saunders experiment was a failure, his gimmick offense does not work in the NFC East. Don't let the door hit you ass on the way out of town loser. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
turbodiesel#44 Posted January 26, 2008 Share Posted January 26, 2008 This is probably a good hire, and in the end, wins is what matters most to me. But if we are going to run the west coast, its going to take some getting used to. For me, Redskins offensive football has always been a "conventional", run first offense. Gibbs I, Norv, and so on - different variations of the same thing. And it was always "the other guys" who ran the west coast (Philly for one). My brain tells me that a pass first offense is probably a good thing in today's NFL. With today's pass interference rules. But its just going to take some getting used it. I felt like our identity was a certain sort of thing. And it was just always that way. But if we win, that's cool, it'll just look weird for a bit until I get used to it. Anyone else feel that way, or is it just me? I think CP will thrive if we can get opponents out of the box. CP is hugely talented, but he is simply not a power back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlinginSammy HOF '63 Posted January 26, 2008 Share Posted January 26, 2008 so if we are running a WC offense will we go get a couple bigger receivers or stick with what we have? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redman Posted January 26, 2008 Share Posted January 26, 2008 The poster orginally said it doesn't make any sense to hire a OC before a HC. I said it was a smart business move. I am not sure how you think football is not a business. People pay money to go to the games. He is making sure fans are not lost by choosing the wrong HC so he is taking his time to do that or GW is going to be the HC and doesn't want you to know about it. It builds excitement. Maybe you might not be but I have no problem with waiting for the right HC. I'm not interested in building excitement, I'm interested in building a successful team and a successful coaching staff. The two are not necessarily the same, as we are presently showing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkinsFTW Posted January 26, 2008 Share Posted January 26, 2008 Well if all of our QBs got injured during a game and we absolutely needed one Zorn could come in and do a Testeverde impression for us. Good hire in that regard, at least. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peregrine Posted January 26, 2008 Share Posted January 26, 2008 Apparently we were less than satisfied by the world class OC we currently had... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkinsFTW Posted January 26, 2008 Share Posted January 26, 2008 I'm not interested in building excitement, I'm interested in building a successful team and a successful coaching staff. The two are not necessarily the same, as we are presently showing. Yeah man, this isn't a ****ing ride at 6 flags. Which seems to be doing rather badly, I might add. http://www.washingtonian.com/blogarticles/people/capitalcomment/6295.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redman Posted January 26, 2008 Share Posted January 26, 2008 Apparently we were less than satisfied by the world class OC we currently had... Well sure, I mean we popped that dinner into the microwave for five minutes and when we opened a door we didn't see a gourmet meal, so obviously it's the food's fault. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ntotoro Posted January 26, 2008 Share Posted January 26, 2008 Apparently we were less than satisfied by the world class OC we currently had... You mean the one that had to work with a decimated O-Line, constantly injured WR's and a QB who had only made a handful of starts? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
illone Posted January 26, 2008 Share Posted January 26, 2008 This sucks if Al really is gone. How can the Redskins expect results when they change offenses every two years? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zCommander Posted January 26, 2008 Share Posted January 26, 2008 I'm not interested in building excitement, I'm interested in building a successful team and a successful coaching staff. The two are not necessarily the same, as we are presently showing. And how do you know he is not maybe doing both at the same time? Just because you don't see it quiet yet doesn't mean he is not doing things right. I like to give people at least the benefit of the doubt. Again I will wait and see what happens before jumping to any conclusions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
21KO Posted January 26, 2008 Share Posted January 26, 2008 Dan Snyder would begin painting his basement floor near the steps and end in the far corner. POTD! :applause: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stadium-Armory Posted January 26, 2008 Share Posted January 26, 2008 Red Right 324 Omaha! Hut Hut! .. I personally think 50Gut has a better ring to it. But if it wins us games, I'm good with it (like my opinion matters). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redman Posted January 26, 2008 Share Posted January 26, 2008 And how do you know he is not maybe doing both at the same time? Just because you don't see it quiet yet doesn't mean he is not doing things right. I like to give people at least the benefit of the doubt. Again I will wait and see what happens before jumping to any conclusions. I've been giving him the benefit of the doubt for eight years, and aside from the coup in bringing back Gibbs, I've been let down every time. Even the Gibbs years seem long ago now. It feels like December 2003 right now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jbooma Posted January 26, 2008 Share Posted January 26, 2008 Crazy. Now to see who they get for HC I guess. It is going to be Josh McDaniel or has Zorn ever worked for Cowher Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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