mojo Posted March 13, 2017 Share Posted March 13, 2017 The team is in such flux right now, I would rather have the 24 yr old with tremendous upside than a 30+ receiver who wanted out last year. If can get through this off season of turmoil and keep Kirk, Pryor will pay huge dividends going forward. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XxSpearheadxX Posted March 13, 2017 Share Posted March 13, 2017 20 minutes ago, mojo said: The team is in such flux right now, I would rather have the 24 yr old with tremendous upside than a 30+ receiver who wanted out last year. If can get through this off season of turmoil and keep Kirk, Pryor will pay huge dividends going forward. Pryor is 27 but yeah I agree with yoy 100% Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skinfan2k Posted March 13, 2017 Share Posted March 13, 2017 we went from 2 WRs that are small and cant make tough catches to 2 big WRs who will catch anything in their vicinity Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mojo Posted March 13, 2017 Share Posted March 13, 2017 4 minutes ago, skinfan2k said: we went from 2 WRs that are small and cant make tough catches to 2 big WRs who will catch anything in their vicinity I won't knock Garçon on tough catches. I loved his toughness and durability. It's just a matter of age and questionable attitude. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zCommander Posted March 13, 2017 Share Posted March 13, 2017 57 minutes ago, jschuck12001 said: Looks like we finally have a WR who knows how to use his hands for positioning. Ladies and Gentlemen we finally have a TALL wide receiver since Mix (now he was tall). Don't know why but kinda of reminds me of TO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goskins10 Posted March 13, 2017 Share Posted March 13, 2017 10 hours ago, Taylor 36 said: Excuse my ignorance, and this post is not an attempt to be snide in any way, but if Pryor is so good, why didn't the Browns resign him with their huge mass of cap space and why did the Redskins only give him a one year (kind of a prove it) deal? Why weren't there other teams offering him a better deal? Also to add to what @jschuck12001 said - not many other teams lost 2000 receiving yards from a pass heavy offense. It may be mercenary to a point. But you have to believe that if he and Kirk get some chemistry and Kirk gets a LTD, Pryor would want to keep that going - provided he can get paid and the team has some success. I liked Garcon. He did some of the dirty work. But he wanted too much money. Yes, the team could have afforded it. But it would not be smart. Being left out of the contract details is $20M guaranteed money. And I would not call $4.8M in dead cap after 2019 a small hit. The entire dead cap for 2017 right now is $8.9M - $2.5M is due to Culliver's injury. For 2015 and 2016 the final average dead cap per team was roughly about $15M. Almost $5M for one player seems like a lot. No reason to meet that salary. Along with Ross, we have Major Harris who had some nice moments last year. They could also add a low cost veteran as insurance for Doctson. Even if it ends up being just Crowder, Pryor, Reed and Davis for the most part. That will not be bad. Again, while the team could have afforded it, not worth the money. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkinsManNJ Posted March 13, 2017 Share Posted March 13, 2017 1 hour ago, zskins said: Ladies and Gentlemen we finally have a TALL wide receiver since Mix (now he was tall). Don't know why but kinda of reminds me of TO. The way he uses his hands to gain a little more separation before the catch reminds of (ugh hate to refer to that in team in any light) Michael Irvin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tsailand Posted March 13, 2017 Author Share Posted March 13, 2017 2 hours ago, skinfan2k said: 2 big WRs who will catch anything in their vicinity Who is the second one? Doctson? LOL look at his 2016 highlights. Never seen a big man play so small. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I Love The Skins Posted March 13, 2017 Share Posted March 13, 2017 Josh Doctson if he is healthy can be a beast I think some have forgotten about that 57 yard catch and run against Dallas in week 2. We also went from having possibly the smallest and oldest WR group in the division to having a young and probably the tallest WR group in the division. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkinsGuy Posted March 13, 2017 Share Posted March 13, 2017 9 hours ago, Tsailand said: Who is the second one? Doctson? LOL look at his 2016 highlights. Never seen a big man play so small. So you are going to hate on Docston because they let your boy walk? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tsailand Posted March 13, 2017 Author Share Posted March 13, 2017 Nah, I've been hating on Doctson since we wasted the pick on him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shortcut Posted March 13, 2017 Share Posted March 13, 2017 I hated seeing Garcon go, yet I don't believe all professional athletes are driven by money. I know that sounds crazy, even typing it I think it sounds crazy. Garcon went to another organization that seems to be in as much turmoil as ours, but on the flip side it might be on the upward trend. He may have more security with how Kyle may use him. It is quite possible he left to start fresh, perhaps he didn't like it here. Could be the coaching staff (doubtful), game planning or the way they used him in the offense, or perhaps the recent on-goings of this organization. It doesn't seem too far fetched that the redskin organization has treated several folks poorly (internally), so it is possible it was a personal move for himself? Me personally would not bank on Pryor, I imagine he will not do much for us this year..... just saying... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oraphus Posted March 13, 2017 Share Posted March 13, 2017 What most seem to miss when they say "how do we replace two 1000yd WRs" .. is that once we get an even half assed D and run game there will be little need or opportunity for a two 1000yd wrs. With garcon, jackson, reed and crowder there were not enough balls to go around. i was dumbfounded by lack of Crowder utilization in the 2nd half of the season as he is one of the top slot wrs in the game and feel this was due to constant ****ing for more balls from Garcon and DJ. Improved D and Running game will take pressure off the passing game and also the need for all the crazy come backs and garbage time points. Pryor, crowder and reed already give skins a pretty potent receiving core. Doctson + draft pick is a bonus. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skinfan2k Posted March 13, 2017 Share Posted March 13, 2017 6 hours ago, Tsailand said: Nah, I've been hating on Doctson since we wasted the pick on him. Doctson is one of the best picks this team has made. they looked 1 year ahead and planned forward for this Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkinsGuy Posted March 13, 2017 Share Posted March 13, 2017 6 hours ago, Tsailand said: Nah, I've been hating on Doctson since we wasted the pick on him. Since Garcon and Jackson are gone, the pick was hardly wasted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skinz_4_life Posted March 15, 2017 Share Posted March 15, 2017 Going to miss his passion on the field. Dude was violent, got in people's faces, stood up for team mates and made tough catches! I like our approach of not tying up to much money and getting younger. We really need doctson to work out. I liked the pick last year knowing where we were going to be with garçon and Jackson. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Busch1724 Posted March 15, 2017 Share Posted March 15, 2017 The nice part about the WR change is that we have the potential of legitimate red zone targets. It's hard to win in this league in the red zone with smurf wide receivers and no running game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Califan007 The Constipated Posted March 15, 2017 Share Posted March 15, 2017 On 3/12/2017 at 8:42 PM, goskins10 said: Along with Ross, we have Major Harris who had some nice moments last year. Along with who we have who, now? lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedskinsInFebruary Posted March 15, 2017 Share Posted March 15, 2017 Haven't looked at stats, but I think we'll miss Garcon's feisty YAC. Watching Pryor's highlights--he seems to be an easy tackle. Still excited to have him of course. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goskins10 Posted March 15, 2017 Share Posted March 15, 2017 2 minutes ago, Califan007 said: Along with who we have who, now? lol Just pointing out that those looking for a #2 so Crowder can stay in the slot, there are some options on the team. Probably should have been clearer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedskinsInFebruary Posted March 15, 2017 Share Posted March 15, 2017 2 minutes ago, goskins10 said: Just pointing out that those looking for a #2 so Crowder can stay in the slot, there are some options on the team. Probably should have been clearer. Jameson had a nice highlight reel for 2016.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Califan007 The Constipated Posted March 15, 2017 Share Posted March 15, 2017 8 minutes ago, goskins10 said: Just pointing out that those looking for a #2 so Crowder can stay in the slot, there are some options on the team. Probably should have been clearer. Um, I doubt either of those two players will help the Redskins this season lol... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renegade7 Posted March 15, 2017 Share Posted March 15, 2017 Looking at those contract numbers, that's too much, bro. I would not have wanted to match that, he wasn't that good to keep paying him at or around $9 to $10 million a year, no way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Voice_of_Reason Posted March 15, 2017 Share Posted March 15, 2017 On 3/11/2017 at 3:22 PM, Tsailand said: 1. Pryor is a one year rental. If he balls out, we might be able to re-sign him, but we will have to be the high bidder on the open market. Not as good as being locked into Garcon. 2. It isn't Pryor vs Garcon, it's Pryor and Garcon in 2017, with Garcon continuing into 2018 and 2019. 3. Doctson is absolutely in question, after last year. Going into this year planning for him to be a starter is setting the team up for failure. We need to begin the seasons with three real WR starters, and they should have been Garcon, Pryor, Crowder. If Docton develops into what you people think he will, great! We'll have an amazing 2017 and he' can then be penciled in as a starter in 2018 onwards. Doctson is the question. I actually don't mind moving on from a 30 year old WR, even though he might have been my favorite 'Skin in the last couple of years WRs on the north side of 30 hit a wall at some point, and it's kindof impossible to tell when that will be. 30? 32? You never know. I'll take the Pryor 1 year deal. To me, there's no reason to think about long-term on offense until you lock up the QB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gamebreaker Posted March 15, 2017 Share Posted March 15, 2017 On 3/13/2017 at 11:02 AM, Tsailand said: Nah, I've been hating on Doctson since we wasted the pick on him. He hasn't been healthy enough for you to make this determination, and after one season to boot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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