THE STATE OF THE FRANCHISE POLL 2024: POST-DRAFT & MINI-CAMP EDITION v.1.1.24

[CommanderInTheRye]

I am weary, but proud.

 

My apologies for the long delay in getting this poll to you. I can assure you it wasn't out of neglect or inattention.

 

An explanation is not neccesary, but it would be impolite for me to not at least make the attempt.

 

Today I feel like Odysseus, having left as a over-confident young man (though in my case I lacked the excuse of youth) to embark on a journey he naively thought would be sweet, glorious, and oh so quick.

 

Only to finally come home, many agonizing years later as an old man, weakened in frame and body, with only a pyrrhic victory to show for his efforts, but perhaps-- with some much needed wisdom, added to his more formidable almost supernatural gift of cunning.

 

First, honor is due-- a heartfelt thanks to Jumbo and especially TK, for aiding me in getting this completed.

 

I finished the original poll weeks ago, just before the rookie mini-camp began, but every time I tried to post it all the questions suddenly disappeared and I got error messages in their place.

 

The worst thing, is that unlike writing a post on the forum, there is no copy automatically saved of a poll. Which meant I had lost every single question and had to start completely over from scratch.

 

Which is a soul testing moment when you've spent hours writing 25 questions (the max allowed) only to lose them all to the ether.

 

After my second failure, I decided it was prudent to write the questions out on inkpad first and save them and then meticulously copy and paste each individual question and the individual multiple choice answers for those questions one by one-- a process that was complicated by my considerable  vision limitations when looking at electronic screens, and the random palsy that occasionally affects  my hands (which only seemed to get worse as I became more agitated and frustrated by repeated failures)  hours of work and failure stretched to days and now unbelievably weeks. 

 

Part of the blame is certainly my own hubris in attempting such a ridiculously massive poll in the first place. Ignoring the old adage-- keep it simple, brief, direct and concise. Who is even going to spend the time to take such a long poll, old man?

 

But on I went.

 

After checking everything carefully before attempting to submit the poll, I would cross my fingers and hit submit. But I kept getting the same frustrating result over and over again:

 

The poll was lost and in it's place there stood a slew of red error messages.

 

But still, I stayed determined to find a way to get this out to you.

 

I've never been a quitter in anything in my life and I wasn't going to let this break me.

 

I just wasn't, but by God it did get close a time or two.

 

So from time to time after a failed posting I had to get away from it for a day or so and get my head and my determination set before spending hours starting over again.

 

Thankfully, I wasn't alone.

 

TK is a genius!

 

Full stop.

 

It was he, who after numerous futile attempts to figure out what the issue was followed by texts and screen shots sent back and forth between us in a truly Eureka moment of insight finally came up with what afterwards was the simplest of solutions.

 

(*NOTE: I'm assuming that THIS time it's gonna work ) If not you'll never read this anyway and it'll stay my secret. lol.

 

Hats off to both TK and Jumbo for their indefatigable positive efforts to help this dottering old fool, which allowed me to finally get this off to all of you today. 🤞 

 

I've worked harder at this than anything I've done in recent memory.

 

Because it took so long to get this post-draft poll done I've  incorporated some of the more recent events into it, such as the minicamps and so on. 

 

There are a few biographucal questions which I thought might be illuminating, but only answer the questions you are comfortable answering-- the "I prefer not to answer" option is there for a reason.

 

I hope that everyone participates, but if I just get one person who does so, and enjoys doing it, I will be satisfied.

 

For better or worse I humbly offer this poll to the forum.

 

(Now, hopefully for the last time I'm going to cross my fingers and press submit.)

 

CITR

 

 

P.S. As always, all comments, criticisms, and suggestions are welcome.

 

 

 

 

 

[Jumbo]

Awesome effort, Ryeman. 👍👍👍

 

And yes, when it comes to anything ES, @TK is a genius. And tireless.

 

(Seriously. He needs new tires.)

[KillBill26]

I completed my will quicker than it took me to fill that out.

 

Jk, great job @CommanderInTheRye, I know you put a lot of time and effort into it.  I appreciate it.  Will be very interesting to see the results.

 

I thought question #20 was the toughest.  I don't dislike any of our picks, and I chose Hampton just bc I think we could've addressed another position at that point.  But am excited to see if Hampton can become the player they envision.  

 

For #21, I am really hoping we sign Humphries for our LT.  Something like 3 yr 45 mil w 10/15/20 cap hits.  Lucas holds down the fort until Humphries is ready.

 

Overall, just super excited for all the changes: owner/staff/FO/JD/stadium/name/fan rejuvenation.  Everything is trending on the right direction.  

[The Rook]

Good job - I know it was a lot of work.

 

#14 - Way too early to rank a draft.  I think they did better than most, but better on paper means nothing.

 

#15 - Originally wanted to draft someone else, but I am very comfortable with the selection.

 

#25 - Fraser instead of Cheers? 

 

 

 

 

The Rook

[mudhog]

This was a totally excellent poll CITR. Well done! I would have picked the everlasting Colt 45, but the possibilities of traveling back and forth in time were just too limitless!

[TK]

5 hours ago, CommanderInTheRye said:

TK is a genius!

 

Full stop.

 

 

 

5 hours ago, Jumbo said:

@TK is a genius.

@Jumbo is my Wiseman.

 

 

[Conn]

Great work to you @CommanderInTheRye and to our dedicated goon-lassoing mods. 
 

Excellent poll, and I for one appreciate the effort that went into it. 
 

I’m very pleased with the direction of this franchise even if I’d have maybe made different minor decisions in the draft, moment to moment. 
 

Side note, Maye wasn’t listed under “most likely to bust”, he’d have been my choice even though he was my guy for us before the draft. This may seem counterintuitive but it’s because I thought he had potentially the highest (non-Williams) ceiling but the lowest floor, and I trusted us to develop him intelligently. I don’t trust the Patriots to do that, and I think I even underestimated exactly how much work he needs in the first place. So he would have been my vote, even though I still really like him. In the absence of Maye as an option, I went with Nix. I think his skill-set fits Payton but I think he’s the least talented QB to go in the 1st (and he was overdrafted, at that). And I really want Payton to fail, so this is a wishful thinking vote in the absence of my main choice. 
 

Amazing job, great poll, would fill out again. 
 

(while I did love The Office during my formative collegiate years, and it has an emotional element you don’t get from Seinfeld, I chose Seinfeld because I loved that first and I respect legacy. I’m not a savage. If it was available I may have chosen Curb Your Enthusiasm however, so consider my Seinfeld vote both a real legitimate vote but also a proxy vote for Larry David’s real magnum opus in Curb—imo of course). 

Edited May 21 by Conn

[CommanderInTheRye]

43 minutes ago, Conn said:

Maye wasn’t listed under “most likely to bust

 

 

 

****!!!!

 

He was on my list! All of the first round qbs were. Somehow I didn’t copy and paste it. Damn, he was my choice too.

 

 

Some of these questions I will ask again in a future poll during the season to see hiw opinions change after the games are played with live bullets instead of blanks. I’ll remember to add his name if I do that question again.

 

If anyone notices any other errors please let me know.

 

Thanks Conn!

[Chris 44]

Question 15 ref Jayden

I wanted Maye, Jayden would have been my next favorite. However I'm optimistic about JD and he has certainly done everything right so far since being drafted (couldn't ask for anything more from him at this very early stage). Players and coached raving about him! Genuinely hope he proves me wrong.

 

Great post CIR, appreciate it.

[Skinsinparadise]

11 hours ago, The Rook said:

Good job - I know it was a lot of work.

 

#14 - Way too early to rank a draft.  I think they did better than most, but better on paper means nothing.

 

#15 - Originally wanted to draft someone else, but I am very comfortable with the selection.

 

#25 - Fraser instead of Cheers? 

 

 

 

 

The Rook

 

Yeah Cheers would be my vote if it was an option.

 

On the QB question.  Loved Maye.  Love Daniels.   Preferred Maye.  But none of those answers fit my take.

 

The other on the o line.   i don't think there was a clear answer.  They went with the flow of the draft, and I get that.  What to do about the spot now?  i think its hoping there is a surprise release or Bhaktari is healthy

Edited May 21 by Skinsinparadise

[Chump Bailey]

8 hours ago, Conn said:

Side note, Maye wasn’t listed under “most likely to bust”, he’d have been my choice

 

Me too.

 

 

 

[Xameil]

I agree with up above on the TV shows. How the hell can you have Frasier and NOT Cheers?!?

Pretty sure Cheers still holds the record for 2nd most watched Finale Next to MASH. Which i am surprised you left that out as well.

[CommanderInTheRye]

Love all the suggestions! 

 

As far as the tv shows go, I definitely screwed the pooch on that one.

 

I basically just wrote down the comedies that immediately popped into my head as classics. Left out a bunch of great ones— especially MASH, Cheers, Curb Your Enthusiasm, etc.

 

I probably should have google searched for “top 20 comedies all time” or something similar. Will be more deliberate next go round.

 

Thanks fir the great feedback.

[mac8887]

To be honest, out of all the first round QBs, I think Drake Maye is most likely to bust the hardest. Caleb is considered generational, so at bare minimum he should at least be serviceable like Kyler or Baker. Jayden has his elite running ability that should help him to at least be serviceable as well, he also has great mechanics and is a good processor, the only thing that could make him a bust is injury most likely. JJ is in an amazing situation where he can be a game manager for a couple of years while he learns the pro game. Penix gets to sit behind cousins for a few years and learn from a real pro, that should really help him when his number is finally called. And Payton will make it easy for Nix, he won’t be asked to do to much early on and if Sean Payton was able to make a washed up Russ be serviceable, I’m sure he can do the same with Nix.

 

Maye on the other hand is coming into a bad situation with a new inexperienced head coach on a team that is void of talent. And while Maye has some great traits, his mechanics are flawed more than the rest of the 1st round QBs, and he struggles with innacuracy issues and inconsistent play. In my opinion the NFL is becoming more like the MLB and everything is based on analytics and consistency. It’s all about spacing and timing now, and for offenses to succeed you really need a guy that plays on time and is very accurate. Now Maye has a great ability to extend plays with his legs and make the big chunk, big time throws, but that is the biggest and best part of his game, and in the NFL, that isn’t going to fly. If he isn’t able to learn to hit on the easy ones, accurately and on time, defenses will feast on him the same way they did Sam Howell.

[Chris 44]

9 hours ago, CommanderInTheRye said:

 

 

 

****!!!!

 

He was on my list! All of the first round qbs were. Somehow I didn’t copy and paste it. Damn, he was my choice too.

 

 

Some of these questions I will ask again in a future poll during the season to see hiw opinions change after the games are played with live bullets instead of blanks. I’ll remember to add his name if I do that question again.

 

If anyone notices any other errors please let me know.

 

Thanks Conn!

Surprised that you of all people with your current sig didn't list another classic comedy;  "you big dummy". lol

[Fan since a Fetus]

I wanted Maye, but love Daniel’s now. I think Maye is the bust based on his situation. 

[CommanderInTheRye]

37 minutes ago, Chris 44 said:

Surprised that you of all people with your current sig didn't list another classic comedy;  "you big dummy". lol

 

 

That alone is reason to do a best comedies poll, take two!

[Idaho fan]

Nice Poll.  Thanks for the efforts.  Im a little stunned to find that I think similarly to the majority of those around here.  

[skinsfan66]

Owner, General Manager, Direction of the team all come in 100% through 39 votes so far. 🙂 Now if their work pans out, we can move to the future and forget the past.

[woodpecker]

92.5% to change the name sounds about right, Im more surprised 5% actually like the current name.

 

I picked making the playoffs for a successful season, but in hindsight I have to agree with the people saying it’s already a successful season regardless of the record. Also, I agree that hitting on the QB would be much more important overall than making the playoffs. 
 

interesting that the responses on the OL are fairly evenly split across the spectrum. I don’t think we really know for sure about the line, but I’m cautiously optimistic that some of the players are much better than what they showed during last years disaster. I chose sign a free agent tackle as a stopgap.

[CommanderInTheRye]

Link to the previous poll for comparative purposes...

 

 

https://es.redskins.com/topic/453825-the-state-of-the-franchise-poll-2024-pre-draft-edition-v10/