BrentMeisterGeneral Posted February 1 Share Posted February 1 Just now, Renegade7 said: This jus seems so easy to say that it's gettin annoying reading it over and over again. Peters stood his ground with Ben, that's how this will be remembered next time we play thr Lions. Most people around the NFL have our back on this one...we need to destroy Detroit next time we see them to send a message. I mean it’s easy to say because it’s how many of us feel, irrespective of Ben Johnson Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spaceman Spiff Posted February 1 Share Posted February 1 1 minute ago, sinews said: And Norv was his OC, a respected one at that. It's not Troy's fault that he sucked as a head coach. I don't see a contradiction between being a brilliant football mind as a coordinator and being a lousy head coach. Because they're not the same thing. Correct. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
srtman04 Posted February 1 Share Posted February 1 Until proven otherwise, I'm referring DQ as Dan "Leftovers" Quinn, because that's exactly what this feels like. We clearly settled. 1 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KWilliamsAWinfield Posted February 1 Share Posted February 1 I thought with a new general manager and owner, things are looking up but I guess it is the same old crap, I am very disappointed with the hire, I wish Redskins would have hired Weaver 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ball Security Posted February 1 Share Posted February 1 I wonder how or if this hire affects whether or not Jon Allen stays. 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ultravin Posted February 1 Share Posted February 1 33 minutes ago, Spaceman Spiff said: I'm enthusiastic about football season because...well, football season. I was looking forward to seeing what the Commies do out of habit more than anything, really. I love that Snyder is gone, the Peters hiring is great but I am markedly less enthusiastic about the Quinn hire as head coach. Anyway, someone put this together in burgundy and gold, please: i'm gonna do it and make embroider it on a hat!!! lol 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DiscoBob Posted February 1 Share Posted February 1 I'm willing to withhold judgement until we see his staff. The OC hire at this point is the key piece - if they can convince me that they have a legitimate play caller, that can develop a young QB.... then I'll be fine with the Quinn hire 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RVAskins Posted February 1 Share Posted February 1 I'm happy we hired Quinn over BB. I'll give him a chance. Let's see who he brings with him. Get some good coordinators Dan! 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skinsinparadise Posted February 1 Share Posted February 1 (edited) 14 minutes ago, oraphus said: yeeah... and Ron Rivera is universally loved and respected in the league according to all the pundits. Yet he is dogsh!t as a HC as we all know. What's that respect worth now? True but as to Ron its about being a nice guy, classy guy. It's usually not about being a great X's and O's dude. Heck even in Carolina's heyday for their defense it was about their coordonators including McDermott not so much Ron. Quinn isn't hailed as a nice guy alone -- but for his motivational skills-X's and O's. Again one major diference with Ron is Quinn has killed it as a coordinator in the modern NFL. It's cool that Ron killed it as D coordinator in 2008 in SD. But times have changed. Logan Paulsen talked about this defensive scheme when he was an employee of Ron. So when some say Logan is biased. Yeah you figured he'd be biased for his current boss not his ex-boss. And during the season he talked about how "meh" the scheme was as to movement on the D line, marrying pressure with coverage among other things. It didn't come off like he thought it got miles better when Ron took over. As Rex Ryan joked when Ron took over the defense, the "improvement" was they were giving up 35 points a game. Logan talked about model schemes as for stunts and moving guys around on the d line and cited Dallas. Said he didn't think Parsons would be as big if he were playing here because Quinn knew how to create mismatches and this defensive staff not so much. He talked about all the turnovers created by Dallas which he cited to in part because of how coordinated their scheme was to their pressure packages -- unlike this team. https://www.foxsports.com/stories/nfl/new-commanders-coach-dan-quinn-brings-leadership-washington-has-needed-for-years He's undoubtedly a defensive whiz. He was the defensive coordinator in Seattle during their Legion of Boom years, when they ranked No. 1 in the NFL and reached the Super Bowl (winning one) in each of his two seasons (2013-14). When he was hired by Mike McCarthy to coach the Cowboys defense in 2021, that unit quickly went from 28th in total yardage to seventh, and it's ranked fifth in each of the last two years. But it's not just his schemes that got his players' attention. They always played like they were willing to run through a wall for Quinn. Edited February 1 by Skinsinparadise 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ball Security Posted February 1 Share Posted February 1 1 minute ago, DiscoBob said: I'm willing to withhold judgement until we see his staff. The OC hire at this point is the key piece - if they can convince me that they have a legitimate play caller, that can develop a young QB.... then I'll be fine with the Quinn hire Who do you have in mind? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYSkins21 Posted February 1 Share Posted February 1 (edited) 6 minutes ago, Ball Security said: I wonder how or if this hire affects whether or not Jon Allen stays. Or if Josh Allen comes? Edited February 1 by NYSkins21 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeHateMe75 Posted February 1 Share Posted February 1 I didn't want Quinn, but he's here and there is nothing we can do about it except support him and the team and hope things get turned around. Sure, I was pissed about what Johnson did and how he did it. But that's water under the bridge now. Y'all can process/handle this however you want to, but my advice is get pissed off, say what you need to say, and get over it quickly. Life is way too short to stay mad about things out of your control and dwell on it. If one of your teams hiring a HC you hate or don't want is your biggest problem, then life is great. There's a lot worse things in life that could happen to you than that. 4 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RVAskins Posted February 1 Share Posted February 1 I wonder what the chatter is on the Cowboys message boards. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renegade7 Posted February 1 Share Posted February 1 10 minutes ago, BrentMeisterGeneral said: I mean it’s easy to say because it’s how many of us feel, irrespective of Ben Johnson #groupthink Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shemp nixon Posted February 1 Share Posted February 1 Just now, RVAskins said: I wonder what the chatter is on the Cowboys message boards. Who cares what those dickheads think. 1 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoCalSkins Posted February 1 Share Posted February 1 9 minutes ago, srtman04 said: Until proven otherwise, I'm referring DQ as Dan "Leftovers" Quinn, because that's exactly what this feels like. We clearly settled. Sometimes cold pizza is much better than hot crap. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrentMeisterGeneral Posted February 1 Share Posted February 1 1 minute ago, Renegade7 said: #groupthink Ok Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
veteranskinsfan Posted February 1 Share Posted February 1 I read one page of the Cowboys message boards. Half hated to lose him and the other half were worried Jerry would hire Riverboat Ron. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FrFan Posted February 1 Share Posted February 1 2 minutes ago, RVAskins said: I wonder what the chatter is on the Cowboys message boards. 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RVAskins Posted February 1 Share Posted February 1 1 minute ago, shemp nixon said: Who cares what those dickheads think. I'm just curious if fans are pissed to see him leave or happy he's gone. Most fans here seem pissed he was hired which I don't get. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYSkins21 Posted February 1 Share Posted February 1 Just now, SoCalSkins said: Sometimes cold pizza is much better than hot crap. Don’t knock it if you’ve never tried it. Cold pizza that is 👀 1 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Command The 414 Posted February 1 Share Posted February 1 I will say this about the hire… Quinn is a retread no doubt but unlike our previous HC who went out of the frying pan into the oven right away… whereas Quinn hasn’t been a HC for several seasons now and he landed back on his feet did his time as a DC and was highly successful… so kinda like life, sometimes we just need to step away and do something else to learn and grow and then if/when given another chance maybe (hopefully for us as fans) he grew and is ready to do even better as a HC… 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
srtman04 Posted February 1 Share Posted February 1 1 minute ago, SoCalSkins said: Sometimes cold pizza is much better than hot crap. Yeah and nobody likes their coffee lukewarm either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeHateMe75 Posted February 1 Share Posted February 1 6 minutes ago, Ball Security said: I wonder how or if this hire affects whether or not Jon Allen stays. Considering that he's under contract through 2025 and there are franchise tags that could be applied afterwards, I'd say he doesn't have much say in the matter. Unless he holds out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KWilliamsAWinfield Posted February 1 Share Posted February 1 2 minutes ago, veteranskinsfan said: I read one page of the Cowboys message boards. Half hated to lose him and the other half were worried Jerry would hire Riverboat Ron. Hated to lose him? Did they forget Quinn's defense got embarrassed in the playoffs against the Packers? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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