Going Commando Posted October 3, 2023 Share Posted October 3, 2023 16 minutes ago, Warhead36 said: Maybe, but man it'd be tough to pass up on Harrison jr. Not if someone is offering them three first round picks. He's good but no receiver is worth more than that kind of haul. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
philibusters Posted October 3, 2023 Share Posted October 3, 2023 1 hour ago, Warhead36 said: Naw. TEs in the 1st are a trap. Remember the insane hype Kyle Pitts got? I said at the time he wouldn't live up and he's been completely invisible in the NFL. You want a good TE you take one between rounds 3-5. 2 at the earliest. They could completely turn their team around by hiring an offensive minded head coach and drafting Williams/Maye and Marvin Harrison Jr. Kyle Pitts actually had 1,000 yard receiving season as a rookie (1,026). Then they went to from Matt Ryan to Marcus Mariota to Desmond Ridder. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warhead36 Posted October 3, 2023 Share Posted October 3, 2023 10 minutes ago, philibusters said: Kyle Pitts actually had 1,000 yard receiving season as a rookie (1,026). Then they went to from Matt Ryan to Marcus Mariota to Desmond Ridder. 1000 yards over 17 games in today's pass happy NFL is kinda meh. Dude was hyped as generational. He should be racking up production no matter who the QB is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Riggo#44 Posted October 3, 2023 Share Posted October 3, 2023 2 hours ago, Warhead36 said: Remember the insane hype Kyle Pitts got? I'd take Kyle Pitts right now. He had a great rookie year and then got injured, which is a familiar story around here, and he has Desmond Ridder at QB this year. 53 minutes ago, Warhead36 said: Dude was hyped as generational. I automatically ignore anyone who says a player is "generational." It's the single most hyperbolic, over-used adjective in sports. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koolblue13 Posted October 3, 2023 Share Posted October 3, 2023 Pitts in this system where EB wants to target the TE 15 times a game, would be incredible. 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anselmheifer Posted October 6, 2023 Share Posted October 6, 2023 Brock Bowers is at the top of my list still. As long as we can fortify OL in FA and the rest of the draft. Also, WTF are we going to do about corner? BSJ committed pass interference at least twice last night, and I feel like that’s borderline the case every time he’s near the action. And then Forbes. I’m not closing the door on Forbes’ career, but we need to fortify the CB position. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koolblue13 Posted October 6, 2023 Share Posted October 6, 2023 Be at Fault for Alt! We should have a shot at Alt or Fashanu in the first Barton, Paul, Suamatamai, Latham could all be there in the second Van Pran or Frazier in the second would be nice too, because Gates sucks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anselmheifer Posted October 6, 2023 Share Posted October 6, 2023 36 minutes ago, Koolblue13 said: Be at Fault for Alt! We should have a shot at Alt or Fashanu in the first Barton, Paul, Suamatamai, Latham could all be there in the second Van Pran or Frazier in the second would be nice too, because Gates sucks How much better would this OL be with Alt if he was the one upgrade on the OL? Also, I think Fashanu and Alt are both going to 6 or so. I don’t think we wind up picking that high, and if I move up, it’s probably for a QB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koolblue13 Posted October 6, 2023 Share Posted October 6, 2023 3 minutes ago, Anselmheifer said: How much better would this OL be with Alt if he was the one upgrade on the OL? Also, I think Fashanu and Alt are both going to 6 or so. I don’t think we wind up picking that high, and if I move up, it’s probably for a QB Jets, Pats, Bengals, Texans, Titans, Broncos, Raiders, Bears, Panthers, Cards, Giants, Vikings are the 12 teams that could finish worse than us. Most of those teams will improve and our schedule is about to get really hard. I think we'll draft close to 5 and definitely below 10. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anselmheifer Posted October 6, 2023 Share Posted October 6, 2023 2 minutes ago, Koolblue13 said: Jets, Pats, Bengals, Texans, Titans, Broncos, Raiders, Bears, Panthers, Cards, Giants, Vikings are the 12 teams that could finish worse than us. Most of those teams will improve and our schedule is about to get really hard. I think we'll draft close to 5 and definitely below 10. I would welcome that. Crazy question…if Howell keeps playing at this level, how much trade value does he have if we want to make some moves and grab a QB? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
philibusters Posted October 6, 2023 Share Posted October 6, 2023 (edited) 2 minutes ago, Anselmheifer said: I would welcome that. Crazy question…if Howell keeps playing at this level, how much trade value does he have if we want to make some moves and grab a QB? Probably a second rounder for whereever Bieniemy would go for his next OC gig IF that team needs a QB. With a little bit of bad luck, maybe a third? Edited October 6, 2023 by philibusters Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koolblue13 Posted October 6, 2023 Share Posted October 6, 2023 1 minute ago, Anselmheifer said: I would welcome that. Crazy question…if Howell keeps playing at this level, how much trade value does he have if we want to make some moves and grab a QB? I don't know, but I'm not trading him away for what he'd fetch. I'd rather fix the OL with draft picks this year. You don't get a shot at a premier LT every year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clskinsfan Posted October 6, 2023 Share Posted October 6, 2023 53 minutes ago, Koolblue13 said: Be at Fault for Alt! We should have a shot at Alt or Fashanu in the first Barton, Paul, Suamatamai, Latham could all be there in the second Van Pran or Frazier in the second would be nice too, because Gates sucks Alt would also be my number one target. I like Bowers a lot as well. But I think we may be picking too high to pick him. Edge would be a possibility as well IMO. Really we need help everywhere. Just take the BPA for once please instead of reaching for 2nd round talent in the first round. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koolblue13 Posted October 6, 2023 Share Posted October 6, 2023 Just now, clskinsfan said: Alt would also be my number one target. I like Bowers a lot as well. But I think we may be picking too high to pick him. Edge would be a possibility as well IMO. Really we need help everywhere. Just take the BPA for once please instead of reaching for 2nd round talent in the first round. I'm extremely happy we'll have a new GM next season. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skinzplay Posted October 6, 2023 Share Posted October 6, 2023 (edited) We have an OL coach who wouldn't even be assistant OL coach for another team in this league right now. Another Lamont Sanford level decision from RR. Edited October 6, 2023 by skinzplay Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anselmheifer Posted October 6, 2023 Share Posted October 6, 2023 On 10/3/2023 at 9:42 AM, Warhead36 said: Maybe, but man it'd be tough to pass up on Harrison jr. Then include McLaurin in the package. We can find receivers. If we want one of the top 2 QB's, and think he's a top 5 guys, then I'd grab him and build for the future. On 10/3/2023 at 7:01 AM, DWinzit said: The cost would be extreme to reach one of those two QB's, probably Howell and an RG3 type draft capital trade. That would be a giant statement move for the ownership. We would then be strapped with making some big upgrades on the OL or risk killing our shiny new toy. As I said above, if you can get a top QB, you pay the price and grab him. The RGIII trade was a failure because RGIII got hurt. If the new staff wants to roll with Howell, maybe we just go all in on OL and try to treat him a little bit like Rypien. Killer OL and weapons and lean on the offense. Find some DC that can field an average defense. But depending on how the season goes, if the new staff wants to grab an elite QB, I wouldn't hesitate to include Allen/Daron/McLaurin. If you hit on the QB, all anybody would ever say was how smart you were to make the move. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DWinzit Posted October 6, 2023 Share Posted October 6, 2023 3 hours ago, Anselmheifer said: Then include McLaurin in the package. We can find receivers. If we want one of the top 2 QB's, and think he's a top 5 guys, then I'd grab him and build for the future. As I said above, if you can get a top QB, you pay the price and grab him. The RGIII trade was a failure because RGIII got hurt. If the new staff wants to roll with Howell, maybe we just go all in on OL and try to treat him a little bit like Rypien. Killer OL and weapons and lean on the offense. Find some DC that can field an average defense. But depending on how the season goes, if the new staff wants to grab an elite QB, I wouldn't hesitate to include Allen/Daron/McLaurin. If you hit on the QB, all anybody would ever say was how smart you were to make the move. After last nights performance I'd say any player could be on the table. I really thought we had become better than this, but nope. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forehead Posted October 6, 2023 Share Posted October 6, 2023 6 hours ago, Koolblue13 said: We should have a shot at Alt or Fashanu in the first Let's say we finish around pick 5/6 and they're both there. I say **** it, pick one then trade several picks and next years 1/2 to the team drafting immediately behind us and take the other one too. One of them has to be able to play on the right side 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlvinWaltonIsMyBoy Posted October 7, 2023 Share Posted October 7, 2023 Drake Maye is legit. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anselmheifer Posted October 7, 2023 Share Posted October 7, 2023 35 minutes ago, AlvinWaltonIsMyBoy said: Drake Maye is legit. On a similar not, I just looked up Caleb Williams’ stats for the year. Jesus. 1,603 yards 21 TD 1 INT. In 5 games. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sacks 'n' Stuff Posted October 7, 2023 Share Posted October 7, 2023 On 10/3/2023 at 10:39 AM, Riggo#44 said: I automatically ignore anyone who says a player is "generational." It's the single most hyperbolic, over-used adjective in sports. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koolblue13 Posted October 7, 2023 Share Posted October 7, 2023 14 minutes ago, Sacks 'n' Stuff said: Assert dominance! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Riggo#44 Posted October 8, 2023 Share Posted October 8, 2023 1 hour ago, Koolblue13 said: Assert dominance! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Koolblue13 Posted October 8, 2023 Share Posted October 8, 2023 Bowers would be so awesome to get, but ignoring OT for a TE would kill me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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