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Will Trump be convicted in any of his cases?  

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  1. 1. Will Trump be convicted in any of his cases?

    • Yes. He's going 4 for 4. (including Georgia)
    • He's going to lose 3
    • Two for sure
    • He's only going to get convicted in one
    • No. He's going to skate

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Jack Smith Plans to Present Evidence at Trial Showing Trump ‘Baselessly Claiming Election Fraud’ Dating to 2012

 

Special Counsel Jack Smith's prosecutors said Tuesday they expect to present evidence at Donald Trump's upcoming criminal trial showing he spread claims of election fraud dating back to at least 2012 as part of their case to help establish the former president's motive and intent.

 

In a nine-page court filing on Tuesday, Smith's office provided U.S. District Judge Tanya Chutkan with advance notice they planned to offer evidence pre-dating and post-dating Trump's alleged criminal acts "not to show the defendant’s criminal propensity, but to establish his motive, intent, preparation, knowledge, absence of mistake, and common plan."

 

The evidence includes a November 2012 tweet "making baseless claims that voting machines had switched votes from then-candidate [Mitt] Romney to then-candidate [Barack] Obama," according to the filing, as well as statements from 2016 and 2020 in which Trump allegedly declined to commit to a peaceful transfer of power.

 

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First signs of Trump jury selection process may have just landed in D.C. mailboxes

 

Potential jurors in former President Donald Trump's federal election interference trial may know they are in the pool now.

 

The U.S. District Court for the District of Columbia has sent prospective jurors a "pre-screening" form asking about their availability to appear in person Feb. 9 to fill out a written questionnaire for use in the jury selection process for a March 4 trial. A resident in Washington, D.C., who received one of the forms in the mail Monday shared an image of it with NBC News.

 

Though the form does not name or refer to the defendant directly, the court had earlier set those dates for the questionnaire and the start of Trump's trial. The form advises potential jurors that their trial "may last approximately three months after jury selection is completed," which is consistent with estimates of the timetable for Trump's trial.

 

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Jack Smith’s New Evidence: Trump Tried to Start Yet Another Riot

 

Prosecutors with special counsel Jack Smith revealed Tuesday that they have proof an “agent” for Donald Trump tried to cause a riot in Michigan to stop the vote count in the 2020 presidential election.

Smith indicted Trump in August for his role in the January 6 insurrection and other attempts to overturn the presidential election. Smith’s team said in a Tuesday court filing that an unindicted co-conspirator, identified only as “Campaign Employee” sent text messages on November 4, 2020, to an attorney working with Trump’s campaign at the TCF Center in Detroit, where ballots were being counted.

“In the messages, the Campaign Employee encouraged rioting and other methods of obstruction when he learned that the vote count was trending in favor of the defendant’s opponent,” prosecutors said.

Joe Biden won Michigan in 2020 with 50.6 percent of the vote. Trump was just a few percentage points behind.

According to the filing, around the same time the employee sent those messages, “an election official at the TCF Center observed that as Biden began to take the lead, a large number of untrained individuals flooded the TCF Center and began making illegitimate and aggressive challenges to the vote count.” Meanwhile, Trump himself began pushing false claims about the TCF Center.

 

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20 hours ago, China said:

Jack Smith Plans to Present Evidence at Trial Showing Trump ‘Baselessly Claiming Election Fraud’ Dating to 2012

 

Special Counsel Jack Smith's prosecutors said Tuesday they expect to present evidence at Donald Trump's upcoming criminal trial showing he spread claims of election fraud dating back to at least 2012 as part of their case to help establish the former president's motive and intent.

 

In a nine-page court filing on Tuesday, Smith's office provided U.S. District Judge Tanya Chutkan with advance notice they planned to offer evidence pre-dating and post-dating Trump's alleged criminal acts "not to show the defendant’s criminal propensity, but to establish his motive, intent, preparation, knowledge, absence of mistake, and common plan."

 

The evidence includes a November 2012 tweet "making baseless claims that voting machines had switched votes from then-candidate [Mitt] Romney to then-candidate [Barack] Obama," according to the filing, as well as statements from 2016 and 2020 in which Trump allegedly declined to commit to a peaceful transfer of power.

 

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Actually, you can go further back when he insisted that Obama couldn't run because he wasn't a born US citizen and demanded to see his full birth certificate. That was before 2012. Asshole then, asshole now.

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9 minutes ago, LadySkinsFan said:

 

We the People hope this statement is true.

 

He said it, in 2020. 

 

The Biden campaign made a YouTube video of him saying it, followed by "I'm Joe Biden, and I approve this message."

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2 hours ago, Cooked Crack said:

 

Just came here to post the same thing.  Here's the story. Bold move by Jack as it could end it all. But he figured Trump would appeal all the way anyway so he is just saving time.

 

Special counsel asks Supreme Court to rule on Trump's immunity in Jan. 6 case (msn.com)

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6 minutes ago, Metalhead said:

I'm not very good with court and legal stuff. If the SC ruled in favor of Trump's immunity, what would be the ramifications? That a president would automatically become a dictator and not beholden to law if they so choose?

 

According to the screaming heads, yes. And Biden can then do whatever he wants.

 

I would suspect it would be more like SCOTUS naming themselves final deciders and in essence dictators instead of being a coequal branch.

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2 minutes ago, TheGreatBuzz said:

 

According to the screaming heads, yes. And Biden can then do whatever he wants.

 

I would suspect it would be more like SCOTUS naming themselves final deciders and in essence dictators instead of being a coequal branch.

Got it, figured as much. Good point about SCOTUS usurping more power, didn't even think of that.

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That is why the Supreme Court will likely not rule in Trump’s favor, because then he or any president wouldn’t have to obey the rule of law and thus would relegate the Supreme Court to being below the executive branch.  
 

Someone like Trump would then have free reign to disregard the law and jail his enemies and the press.

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I'd assume (always dangerous) that if the Supremes are completely partisan Republicans, (and they might well be), then they'll just rule that the question of Trump's immunity has to go through the lower courts first. Probably in each individual jurisdiction. 

 

That'll take years, and it spares them from actually having to rule he's immune. 

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That will spark an even bigger crisis.  If not to hear claims of an unprecedented criminal prosecution of a former President who is running for office again (and that shouldn't quite matter), why do we have a Supreme Court?  

 

I also wonder if anything SCOTUS does could force Judge Cannon's hands as well.  

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