method man Posted December 29, 2022 Share Posted December 29, 2022 9 minutes ago, Redskins Reparations said: I am not sure where Henson Hooker gets drafted after injuring his ACL but he definitely has the skill to be a very good quarterback in the NFL. He showed up in some very big games this year. He is worth a flyer if he is still there in the 5th 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Going Commando Posted December 29, 2022 Share Posted December 29, 2022 19 minutes ago, method man said: He is worth a flyer if he is still there in the 5th  Yeah that's about where I'm thinking for him too. He'd have to redshirt next season and it could give us time to see what we have with Howell next year, and if we like Howell moving forward, then we are only out a fifth rounder. Plus you need a back up QB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KillBill26 Posted December 29, 2022 Share Posted December 29, 2022 58 minutes ago, Redskins Reparations said: I am not sure where Henson Hooker gets drafted after injuring his ACL but he definitely has the skill to be a very good quarterback in the NFL. He showed up in some very big games this year. The thing about hooker that scares me is I feel a lot of his success was due to Heupel's scheme.  The offense did not have him making progressions, so his ability to navigate an NFL passing attack is a huge question mark. He will turn 25 and he is coming off an ACL tear. Considering how great of a season he just had, I'd bet he gets taken in middle rounds, but I'd rather address other needs at that juncture. If he slips to 6th/7th, sure, but I don't see that happening. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warhead36 Posted December 29, 2022 Share Posted December 29, 2022 Hooker is already older than some of the top QBs in the league right now. I wouldn't have drafted him in the top 3 rounds even before his injury. Now? Maybe 7th at best. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koolblue13 Posted December 30, 2022 Share Posted December 30, 2022 If we're taking another late rounder, and I hope so, I'd like Haener.  1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zim489 Posted December 30, 2022 Share Posted December 30, 2022 8 hours ago, KillBill26 said: The thing about hooker that scares me is I feel a lot of his success was due to Heupel's scheme.  The offense did not have him making progressions, so his ability to navigate an NFL passing attack is a huge question mark. He will turn 25 and he is coming off an ACL tear. Considering how great of a season he just had, I'd bet he gets taken in middle rounds, but I'd rather address other needs at that juncture. If he slips to 6th/7th, sure, but I don't see that happening. Yeah his scheme is about as anti nfl as you can get Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
method man Posted December 30, 2022 Share Posted December 30, 2022 36 minutes ago, Koolblue13 said: If we're taking another late rounder, and I hope so, I'd like Haener.   Haener to me is the Bailey Zappe of this draft. He is the guy who is going to be a longtime backup in the league who will outlast guys ahead of him like Richardson. High floor lower ceiling Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zim489 Posted December 30, 2022 Share Posted December 30, 2022 8 hours ago, Warhead36 said: Hooker is already older than some of the top QBs in the league right now. I wouldn't have drafted him in the top 3 rounds even before his injury. Now? Maybe 7th at best. By his second year in the league there’s a good chance he’s in the older half of the league Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
illone Posted December 30, 2022 Share Posted December 30, 2022 40 minutes ago, Koolblue13 said: If we're taking another late rounder, and I hope so, I'd like Haener.   Why?  Dude is 6-1, under 200 lbs...  Hard pass. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koolblue13 Posted December 30, 2022 Share Posted December 30, 2022 7 hours ago, method man said: Â Haener to me is the Bailey Zappe of this draft. He is the guy who is going to be a longtime backup in the league who will outlast guys ahead of him like Richardson. High floor lower ceiling He's like an NFL version of Heinicke, which is great for a back up. Hoping Howell can become a starter eventually. But the 5th round is great for a guy like that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koolblue13 Posted December 30, 2022 Share Posted December 30, 2022 @Skinsinparadise I'm about all in on Mayer now I think. Seems like a top 5 player in the draft and if there at our pick, I wouldn't pass on him at all. A TE room of him, Bates and ARog would be more dynamic than our WR trio and go a mile for our RBs. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skinsinparadise Posted December 30, 2022 Share Posted December 30, 2022 (edited) 9 hours ago, illone said:  Why?  Dude is 6-1, under 200 lbs...  Hard pass.  His size is likely the only reason he's not going in the first. He's probably a hair taller than Howell, he can put on some weight. Maybe then Bryce Young falls to our pick, too, if it was just about size.  Nagy is pretty good at calling it on QBs, some misses, but plenty of hits.  But for me in short, I've watched him multiple times. Ironically reminds me of another smaller stature QB, Heinicke, I think he's taller than him though but more accurate and with a stronger arm than Taylor but they both play in a similar style So if I am throwing the dice on a dude in like the 4th-5th round, I'd roll the dice on him.  As to Hooker, bigger dude, I don't think he's going to the 5th round like some here think, I think the mocks, most of which I saw of him going in the 3rd sound about right.                       Edited December 30, 2022 by Skinsinparadise 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koolblue13 Posted December 30, 2022 Share Posted December 30, 2022 The Wentz/Carr, Howell, Haener QB room sounds great to me. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skinsinparadise Posted December 30, 2022 Share Posted December 30, 2022 Carr, Haener, Michael Mayer. Â @Koolblue13 Â Â 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koolblue13 Posted December 30, 2022 Share Posted December 30, 2022 (edited) Add Jarrett Patterson/steve Avila and Zion Nelson day 2 and this offense is ready to explode. I really really want a day 2 LBer like Noah Sewell, but if we attack offense the first 2 days, I'll be happy. Edited December 30, 2022 by Koolblue13 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skinsfan66 Posted December 30, 2022 Share Posted December 30, 2022 21 minutes ago, Koolblue13 said: The Wentz/Carr, Howell, Haener QB room sounds great to me. Sounds like a lot of waisted money to me and we lose a few good players because of it with nothing more in results. Or we cannot improve some areas of the team because of traded draft picks and salaries. The way I feel is Taylor, Howell, drafted QB or best rated low budget free agent QB. No Wentz unless he wins a playoff game and no Carr period. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koolblue13 Posted December 30, 2022 Share Posted December 30, 2022 1 minute ago, skinsfan66 said: Sounds like a lot of waisted money to me and we lose a few good players because of it with nothing more in results. Or we cannot improve some areas of the team because of traded draft picks and salaries. The way I feel is Taylor, Howell, drafted QB or best rated low budget free agent QB. No Wentz unless he wins a playoff game and no Carr period. So you want to throw away next season already and go for a mid first round draft pick. Got it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
method man Posted December 30, 2022 Share Posted December 30, 2022 27 minutes ago, Koolblue13 said: Add Jarrett Patterson/steve Avila and Zion Nelson day 2 and this offense is ready to explode. I really really want a day 2 LBer like Noah Sewell, but if we attack offense the first 2 days, I'll be happy. I am leaning toward Tipmann for a 3rd round center. Big guy with freaky short area quickness. Avila is not very athletic and Patterson is small. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koolblue13 Posted December 30, 2022 Share Posted December 30, 2022 4 hours ago, method man said: I am leaning toward Tipmann for a 3rd round center. Big guy with freaky short area quickness. Avila is not very athletic and Patterson is small. I was just pulling straws waiting for the doctor to come back into the room. Â Â I should have just said all Oline day 2. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IrepDC Posted December 30, 2022 Share Posted December 30, 2022 Not a fan of this trend of players sitting out Bowl Games and Championship Games to prepare for the draft. What's the point of playing with your teammates all year and then leaving them hanging in the finale? It feels like this trend will start going into the regular season where eventually guys sit out as soon as they *think their draft stock is secure.  /grumpy rant 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Wiggles Posted December 30, 2022 Share Posted December 30, 2022 (edited) 55 minutes ago, IrepDC said: Not a fan of this trend of players sitting out Bowl Games and Championship Games to prepare for the draft. What's the point of playing with your teammates all year and then leaving them hanging in the finale?  Tens of millions of dollars, possibly more? 🤔 Edited December 30, 2022 by Captain Wiggles Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IrepDC Posted December 30, 2022 Share Posted December 30, 2022 6 minutes ago, Captain Wiggles said:  Tens of millions of dollars, possibly more? 🤔  If the projected #1 and #2 overall pick can play tomorrow, everyone can. I get the risk, but you took the same risk all year long. It's just a personal pet peeve, though. I'm transitioning into my "back in my day" stage. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warhead36 Posted December 31, 2022 Share Posted December 31, 2022 You gotta look out for yourself first and fore most. If you get hurt, you think the NFL will throw you a bone and draft you/pay you millions anyway?  Its a cutthroat business. 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Wiggles Posted December 31, 2022 Share Posted December 31, 2022 Yeah I can't really fault a guy for skipping such prestigious games as the Bad Boy Mowers Pinstripe Bowl or the Guaranteed Rate Bowl. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Going Commando Posted December 31, 2022 Share Posted December 31, 2022 It ruins the bowl games and basically turns them into spring exhibitions, but there is no incentive for potential first round picks to play in their bowls. I like that Bresee did it though, even though he was hurting. I think it does show good competitive character, but opting out doesn't show a lack of competitiveness. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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