HigSkin Posted March 18, 2022 Share Posted March 18, 2022 13 minutes ago, RWJ said: I was thinking more along the lines of about $25 mill on average a year. The guaranteed money is the big deal though. Yea, you can slice it up a bunch of different ways to show a high average yearly but an actual lower yearly cap hit. We'll see 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RWJ Posted March 18, 2022 Share Posted March 18, 2022 2 hours ago, JamesMadisonSkins said: Wonder if Ron and Rogers (Commanders Gap Guru) are having discussion right now on this as the price tag continue to climb via Adam's new deal. Best to lock in your franchise players at their respected positions sooner rather than later. 2 minutes ago, HigSkin said: Yea, you can slice it up a bunch of different ways to show a high average yearly but an actual lower yearly cap hit. We'll see See my last post. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CommDownMan Posted March 18, 2022 Share Posted March 18, 2022 47 minutes ago, Warhead36 said: I've had to tell people this rule a zillion times. Its amazing how so many of our fans just have no idea about some of the rules. I have comp pick rules and projections along with pre / post june 1st explanation links bookmarked and generally post them at least once every year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bacon Posted March 18, 2022 Share Posted March 18, 2022 1 hour ago, No Nonsense said: Terry deserves to get paid and he will, but does anyone sees him as DeVante Adams? They should. DeVante is great but Packers receivers have a history of leaving their HoF quarterbacks and flaming out on other teams. Meanwhile, Terry is an absolute legend at making something out of nothing. I wouldn't value them all that differently. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Birdlives Posted March 18, 2022 Share Posted March 18, 2022 53 minutes ago, Warhead36 said: I've had to tell people this rule a zillion times. Its amazing how so many of our fans just have no idea about some of the rules. lol, I know it’s amazing how many people have dropped off and have no time to remember the subtleties of the game and forget the entirely complex rules. Unfortunate how obnoxious people have to be to remind them they should support this **** show. Sorry I forgot the FA rules. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sebestian Posted March 18, 2022 Share Posted March 18, 2022 Just now, Birdlives said: lol, I know it’s amazing how many people have dropped off and have no time to remember the subtleties of the game and forget the entirely complex rules. Unfortunate how obnoxious people have to be to remind them they should support this **** show. Sorry I forgot the FA rules. Great avatar. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoCalSkins Posted March 18, 2022 Share Posted March 18, 2022 6 minutes ago, Bacon said: They should. DeVante is great but Packers receivers have a history of leaving their HoF quarterbacks and flaming out on other teams. Meanwhile, Terry is an absolute legend at making something out of nothing. I wouldn't value them all that differently. Exactly. What numbers is he putting up with Keenum, Haskins and Heinicke throwing him the rock? And would he smile and get better and work harder despite all of that? 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clskinsfan Posted March 18, 2022 Share Posted March 18, 2022 1 hour ago, CommanderInTheRye said: Terry McLaurin just had a "no touch", spontaneous, full body tantric orgasm after seeing those numbers. OK. I will be the guy in the minority. Terry is a beast. He isnt worth 22.5 per year. He just isnt. Flame me. Do whatever. But he isnt. That is THREE good starters on offense. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jumbo Posted March 18, 2022 Share Posted March 18, 2022 the afc west might have to be broken off into it's own mini-league if the nfl plans to keep 'parity' a part of their brand 1 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skinsfan93 Posted March 18, 2022 Share Posted March 18, 2022 8 minutes ago, clskinsfan said: OK. I will be the guy in the minority. Terry is a beast. He isnt worth 22.5 per year. He just isnt. Flame me. Do whatever. But he isnt. That is THREE good starters on offense. Its not what a player is worth but what the market dictates and what teams are willing to pay. However I think the market will get him around 20-25 mil. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skinsfan4128 Posted March 18, 2022 Share Posted March 18, 2022 5 minutes ago, Jumbo said: the afc west might have to be broken off into it's own mini-league if the nfl plans to keep 'parity' a part of their brand That division is going to be absolutely brutal. Should be fun to watch. HTTR! 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jumbo Posted March 18, 2022 Share Posted March 18, 2022 22 minutes ago, Birdlives said: lol, I know it’s amazing how many people have dropped off and have no time to remember the subtleties of the game and forget the entirely complex rules. Unfortunate how obnoxious people have to be to remind them they should support this **** show. Sorry I forgot the FA rules. you shall be mercillessly chided by your peers until your helpless groveling wears on you enough for you admit your pathetic shortcomings and vow to remain silent for six moons in repentance 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CapsSkins Posted March 18, 2022 Share Posted March 18, 2022 25 minutes ago, Birdlives said: lol, I know it’s amazing how many people have dropped off and have no time to remember the subtleties of the game and forget the entirely complex rules. Unfortunate how obnoxious people have to be to remind them they should support this **** show. Sorry I forgot the FA rules. There's nothing wrong with not knowing all the rules, but when you trash the organization for not doing something that's literally impossible, you should expect to get some attitude in return. 😉 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clskinsfan Posted March 18, 2022 Share Posted March 18, 2022 1 minute ago, skinsfan93 said: Its not what a player is worth but what the market dictates and what teams are willing to pay. However I think the market will get him around 20-25 mil. Thats fine. The market can say whatever it wants. IF terry can get that kind of money you have to let him go. One thing I will add to this is the Carson Wentz trade doesnt look so ridiculous right now. When your WR is trying to get paid more than your QB the league is out of control. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RWJ Posted March 18, 2022 Share Posted March 18, 2022 5 minutes ago, skinsfan93 said: Its not what a player is worth but what the market dictates and what teams are willing to pay. However I think the market will get him around 20-25 mil. Easily and it's closer to $25 mill a year. The market for players at their position continues to set itself year end and year out. There is only so much revenue that the NFL can build upon before it goes bankrupt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Birdlives Posted March 18, 2022 Share Posted March 18, 2022 4 minutes ago, Jumbo said: you shall be mercillessly chided by your peers until your helpless groveling wears on you enough for you admit your pathetic shortcomings and vow to remain silent for six moons in repentance my humility knows no bounds in the light of your grace, I will offer my first newborn in a fortnight under a new moon; unless Leo is rising; in which case I’ll be sure to dance naked under the light of a waxing moon. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RWJ Posted March 18, 2022 Share Posted March 18, 2022 4 minutes ago, clskinsfan said: Thats fine. The market can say whatever it wants. IF terry can get that kind of money you have to let him go. One thing I will add to this is the Carson Wentz trade doesnt look so ridiculous right now. When your WR is trying to get paid more than your QB the league is out of control. I don't think anyone position if trying to get paid more than the other; it;s all the positions and their average pay per year will continue to grow and the market will reset itself every year. See my previous post. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clskinsfan Posted March 18, 2022 Share Posted March 18, 2022 1 minute ago, RWJ said: I don't think anyone position if trying to get paid more than the other; it;s all the positions and their average pay per year will continue to grow and the market will reset itself every year. See my previous post. Nice. I am still not paying a WR anywhere close to what my QB is making. GB made a great decision to let him go. Adams is a beast. But he still wont touch the ball more than 12-15 times a game EVER. He isnt worth that kind of money. He just isnt 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smooth Posted March 18, 2022 Share Posted March 18, 2022 other than wentz, i just see how we have improved our roster. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
samy316 Posted March 18, 2022 Share Posted March 18, 2022 (edited) 16 minutes ago, clskinsfan said: Nice. I am still not paying a WR anywhere close to what my QB is making. GB made a great decision to let him go. Adams is a beast. But he still wont touch the ball more than 12-15 times a game EVER. He isnt worth that kind of money. He just isnt That’s all good & well, but Wentz is almost a unicorn regarding his salary. If he flops, and we have to draft a QB, just be aware that franchise QB salaries will get into the $40 million+ range on average in a a year or two. Even middle of the pack QB’s will be getting $30 million+ going forward. As for WR’s, their salaries will be going up as well, since the salary cap continues to increase. The top line WR’s will be making Christian Kirk salary on average, and likely higher before long. This team already has the reputation of letting its stars walk (Cousins, Williams, Scherff), etc. Do you really want to let the only fan favorite on offense we’ve had walk through the door? T-Mac is practically the face of the franchise, and the only player next to Jonathan Allen that’s marketable and backs up his performance each Sunday. What kind of message would it send if we let ANOTHER fan favorite walk out the door? Besides, we’re not paying anyone else major money at the moment. Edited March 18, 2022 by samy316 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clskinsfan Posted March 18, 2022 Share Posted March 18, 2022 1 minute ago, samy316 said: and we have to draft a QB But isnt that what makes this deal decent though? We have him locked up for 3 years at a fair price. 11 minutes ago, smooth said: other than wentz I mean. Does any other position mean more? I am not trying to say Wentz is the answer. Because we have no clue if he is. But we have him on a team friendly deal for 3 years. And if he flops. Next year QB draft market is great. I dont really see a loss here. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CapsSkins Posted March 18, 2022 Share Posted March 18, 2022 We're going to pay Terry $25M/year and we're going to like it. 1 1 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
samy316 Posted March 18, 2022 Share Posted March 18, 2022 (edited) 5 minutes ago, clskinsfan said: But isnt that what makes this deal decent though? We have him locked up for 3 years at a fair price. Yes, but that goes back to my main point of who are we paying at the current moment? We can afford to throw the bag at T-Mac, and not kill our cap. Who else are we paying/going to pay? Sweat is due an extension after next season, and Young the season after that. Since we have Wentz at a very reasonable number, what’s the hesitation in paying our home grown players? We’re going to have to pay our own at some point. I can’t think of a more worthy person to reward than T-Mac. Let me reiterate, we’re not Green Bay or Kansas City with a QB making $50+ million, and maneuvering the cap for the rest of the roster. We’re in relatively good shape. Green Bay and Kansas City will start to feel the pinch of paying all that money to one player in the next few seasons. We don’t have that problem yet. So there should be no hesitation to pay at least market share or higher for our home grown players. Edited March 18, 2022 by samy316 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RWJ Posted March 18, 2022 Share Posted March 18, 2022 (edited) 9 minutes ago, clskinsfan said: But isnt that what makes this deal decent though? We have him locked up for 3 years at a fair price. I mean. Does any other position mean more? I am not trying to say Wentz is the answer. Because we have no clue if he is. But we have him on a team friendly deal for 3 years. And if he flops. Next year QB draft market is great. I dont really see a loss here. RR made it clear today that he wouldn't rule out drafting a QB. Who do you think it will be as I think they will take one. I think that guy may be Ridder in the 2nd but I see them trading down in the 1st too if they can. I have my Wishlist in my signature but that is my guess. Who do you think it is, cls? 5 minutes ago, CapsSkins said: We're going to pay Terry $25M/year and we're going to like it. At this point in time, I think they will as well but there has been a problem brewing as clskinsfan has pointed out and I have as well per previous posts. Edited March 18, 2022 by RWJ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clskinsfan Posted March 18, 2022 Share Posted March 18, 2022 4 minutes ago, samy316 said: Yes, but that goes back to my main point of who are we paying at the current moment? We can afford to throw the bag at T-Mac, and not kill our cap. Who else are we paying/going to pay? Sweat is due an extension after next season, and Young the season after that. Since we have Wentz at a very reasonable number, what’s the hesitation in paying our home grown players? We’re going to have to pay our own at some point. I can’t think of a more worthy person to reward than T-Mac. Is he really worth throwing the bag at though? Terry is special. But he is nowhere close to Adams special. He just isnt. He is not a generational talent at WR. He is very good. But not elite. At least IMO. 4 minutes ago, RWJ said: RR made it clear today that he wouldn't rule out drafting a QB. Who do you think it will be as I think they will take one. I think that guy may be Ridder in the 2nd round. I have my Wishlist in my signature but that is my guess. Who do you think it is, cls? Ridder/Strong would be my guess. Actually Strong is a great fit behind Wentz. Very similar players. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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