NYT: Matt Gaetz Is Said to Be Investigated Over Possible Sexual Relationship With a Girl, 17. Wrap it up. Gaetz likely to avoid charges. Gaetz former ally sentenced to 11 years.

[The Evil Genius]

 

[China]

Meh.  Even if they conclude he's guilty of shenanigans they will most likely just send him a strongly worded letter of reprimand, or issue a toothless censure.

 

Plus when the GOP took over the House, they purposely weakened the Ethics Committe so they wouldn't have to out themselves.

 

[Ball Security]

I don’t know too many details about who is on the HEC, but could this be retribution for blocking R legislation after the debt ceiling vote?

[China]

GOP Lobbyist in Gaetz Case Accused of Rape in Court Docs

 

A Florida Republican lobbyist’s attempt to sue the young woman at the center of the Rep. Matt Gaetz underage sex trafficking scandal has backfired in spectacular fashion, with the woman filing a response that repeatedly accuses the lobbyist of raping her.

 

Christopher Dorworth is a real estate developer whose brief yet meteoric rise in the Florida state legislature—where he was once the House speaker-designate—came to a sudden halt when he failed to be re-elected in 2012. He switched gears and became a power player and lobbyist instead. But two years ago, just as the world was learning that the FBI was looking into two of Dorworth’s connections—Joel Greenberg and Congressman Matt Gaetz (R-FL)—Dorworth quit his job at the influential lobbying firm Ballard Partners and dialed back from public life.

 

Despite claims from Greenberg that Gaetz recruited and paid that teenager for sex, the high-profile investigation fizzled in February when the Department of Justice declined to prosecute the congressman.

 

But little was ever said about the lobbyist.

 

He’s now attempting to sue Greenberg, Greenberg’s wife, and the woman at the center of the child sex trafficking allegations for defamation and racketeering—and asking the court to declare that he never had sex with the woman when she was underage.

 

But just as Barbra Streisand’s efforts to conceal a picture of her home led to more attention, the lawsuit is now drawing more attention to the old wounds—and putting the once underage sex trafficking victim on the record that Dorworth had sex with her too.

 

Despite his stature and influence in Florida, Dorworth was a side-character in most of the reporting about the investigation. The sparse news stories about him mostly focused on his alleged scheme to run a spoiler candidate that would unfairly tilt a local election. Unexplored were the details that several sources briefed on the investigation had told The Daily Beast: that federal agents were also exploring whether they could target Dorworth for alleged sexual interactions with the same underage teen girl. As Dorworth would later describe in court papers, “the investigation progressed from allegations [of] sexual activity to allegations of obstruction of justice.” However, the DOJ never charged him with either crime—and he largely avoided the limelight.

 

That is, until Dorworth made the curious decision in April to sue Greenberg and the sex trafficking ring victim herself, who is referred to in the lawsuit only by her initials, “A.B.”

 

Dorworth is seeking $1 million, according to a court docket, claiming that his career was destroyed by the investigation and bad press, which he blames on the defendants’ allegedly coordinated lies to protect Greenberg. One problem with that theory: Greenberg is now serving an 11-year prison sentence, stemming from a conviction that A.B.’s attorneys believe was thanks in large part to her testifying against Greenberg.

 

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[EmirOfShmo]

Seems weird to me they're reopening this. Maybe something new has been discovered...🤷‍♂️

 

 

[China]

Oh no, the House Ethics Committee.  He might be given a reprimand, a harshly worded letter, or -gasp- be censured.

 

[CobraCommander]

On 8/12/2021 at 12:29 PM, CobraCommander said:

Nothing will happen to Gaetz. Greenburg took the fall. Gaetz can claim he didn't know what Greenburg was doing. 

Told y'all way back when. Some of you didn't agree.

 

House of Representatives Ethics Commitee. That's an oxymoron.

[samy316]

1 hour ago, EmirOfShmo said:

Seems weird to me they're reopening this. Maybe something new has been discovered...🤷‍♂️

 

 

 

Ooohhh, the House Ethics Committee is investigating Matt Gaetz,,,,

 

 

 

 

This is a joke, right?  What could the House Ethics Committee possibly do to Gaetz, other than censure him?  Sending him a subpoena won't do anything either.  MAGA won't give a damn, and nothing will happen in the end.  This is just more bloviating and nonsense.

Edited July 14, 2023 by samy316

[Califan007 The Constipated]

7 hours ago, samy316 said:

 

Ooohhh, the House Ethics Committee is investigating Matt Gaetz,,,,

 

 

 

 

This is a joke, right?  What could the House Ethics Committee possibly do to Gaetz, other than censure him?  Sending him a subpoena won't do anything either.  MAGA won't give a damn, and nothing will happen in the end.  This is just more bloviating and nonsense.

 

 

They can recommend that he be expelled, and if they do, the reasons for that recommendation will be made public. Will he ultimately be expelled if they do so? Most likely no...then again, said the same thing about Trump and the impeachment hearings--that the Senate will never have enough votes to kick him out of office. But it still hangs around him like a scarlett "I" lol. And I'm glad they held the impeachment hearings even if he still remained in office.

[China]

Republican Fundraising Event Goes Wild After Man Delivers Sex Doll To Matt Gaetz

 

A Republican fundraising dinner in Florida took an unexpected turn last weekend when Rep. Matt Gaetz (R-FL), who was the keynote speaker at the event, was confronted with a sex doll.

 

During the event, a man named Michael Picard burst into the room with a blown-up sex doll and yelled, “Make way! Matt Gaetz! I got you the underaged girl!”

 

Security guards promptly escorted Picard out of the room, while Gaetz expressed his disdain for the disruptive act.

 

The stunt was a reference to previous allegations that Gaetz had engaged in sexual activities with a minor and potentially violated sex trafficking laws. Gaetz has consistently denied these accusations.

 

In the past, Gaetz had also been involved in a Justice Department investigation related to Joel Greenberg, a political ally who faced charges, including sex trafficking a 17-year-old girl.

Picard, who refers to himself as a “friendly neighborhood troll,” explained that he targeted Gaetz to draw attention to the allegations against him, especially after the Justice Department’s probe ended without charges.

 

 

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[EmirOfShmo]

House GOPers gunning for Gaetz as ethics probe expands to 'broader range' of violations

 

Rep. Matt Gaetz's (R-FL) role as the ringleader behind the ouster of former House Speaker Kevin McCarthy (R-CA) has created enduring resentment among more than a few of the Florida Republican's House colleagues who have grown weary of his grandstanding ways.

According to a report from the Daily Beast's Sam Brodey, Gaetz's unpopularity among Republicans he serves with in the House has grown with one Republican telling the Beast, "There aren’t a lot of people who, you know, are gonna go out of their way to defend Matt Gaetz. I mean, he’s a pretty diabolical character.”

Rep. Don Bacon (R-NE), who admitted Gaetz has almost been involved in two physical fights with colleagues, added, "The anger is pretty well with him. I just think there will be long memories because he did serious damage to our House conference.”

One person who appears to be working behind the scenes against Gaetz is McCarthy, whom Brodey described as stalking "...the halls like a ghost determined to avenge his own murder. In interviews, McCarthy has kept alive the idea that Gaetz and his allies deserve punishment, warning gravely that the party won’t heal 'if there’s no consequences for the actions.'"

McCarthy recently mentioned during a Fox News interview that Gaetz is still being scrutinized by the Ethics Committee, telling Maria Bartiromo, "Once that Ethics complaint comes forward, he could have the same problem as Santos and I think the conference would probably be better united to move forward and get this all done.”

As the Beast's Brodey notes, McCarthy may have a point, reporting that "Ethics is looking into a much broader range of potential violations, many of which could be deeply embarrassing and reputation-harming for Gaetz—including an allegation that he showed inappropriate sexual content to colleagues on the House floor."

 

https://www.rawstory.com/matt-gaetz-gop

[Spaceman Spiff]

It's unbelievable how the allegations against him just vanished like a fart in the wind.  Now the worst thing that can happen to him is that he gets busted for showing some boob pics on an iphone on the house floor.  

[Califan007 The Constipated]

8 minutes ago, Spaceman Spiff said:

It's unbelievable how the allegations against him just vanished like a fart in the wind.  Now the worst thing that can happen to him is that he gets busted for showing some boob pics on an iphone on the house floor.  

 

They vanished because the witnesses to his sex trafficking stuff would have been far from upstanding in the eyes of a jury, which put dents into the case against him.

 

The witnesses to him showing "inappropriate" stuff on the house floor 1) don't need a jury, and 2) even if they needed a jury, would be seen as far, FAR more upstanding and believable than the scum in Florida who would have acted as witnesses to his alleged child sex trafficking.

[Larry]

19 minutes ago, Califan007 The Constipated said:

 

They vanished because the witnesses to his sex trafficking stuff would have been far from upstanding in the eyes of a jury, which put dents into the case against him.

 

Recall once reading the comment that if you're prosecuting a case against a mob boss, none of the prosecution's witnesses are going to be saints. 

[Spaceman Spiff]

49 minutes ago, Califan007 The Constipated said:

 

They vanished because the witnesses to his sex trafficking stuff would have been far from upstanding in the eyes of a jury, which put dents into the case against him.

 

The witnesses to him showing "inappropriate" stuff on the house floor 1) don't need a jury, and 2) even if they needed a jury, would be seen as far, FAR more upstanding and believable than the scum in Florida who would have acted as witnesses to his alleged child sex trafficking.

 

27 minutes ago, Larry said:

 

Recall once reading the comment that if you're prosecuting a case against a mob boss, none of the prosecution's witnesses are going to be saints. 

 

Yeah, @Califan007 The ConstipatedI understand the sentiment but I'm also not buying it.  If Sammy Gravano can be a witness to take down John Gotti, I'm sure there are witnesses that could have taken down Gaetz.  It's not a character evaluation of a witness, it's a trial.  

 

I'll also point out that Gaetz has seemingly somehow gained MORE power in his party after that. 

[TradeTheBeal!]

20 minutes ago, Spaceman Spiff said:

 

 

I'll also point out that Gaetz has seemingly somehow gained MORE power in his party after that. 

Busting Florida Wawa skanks is a foundational component of any modern GOP candidacy.

[EmirOfShmo]

🤣

 

[Califan007 The Constipated]

On 11/27/2023 at 12:27 PM, Larry said:

 

Recall once reading the comment that if you're prosecuting a case against a mob boss, none of the prosecution's witnesses are going to be saints. 

 

On 11/27/2023 at 12:57 PM, Spaceman Spiff said:

 

 

Yeah, @Califan007 The ConstipatedI understand the sentiment but I'm also not buying it.  If Sammy Gravano can be a witness to take down John Gotti, I'm sure there are witnesses that could have taken down Gaetz.  It's not a character evaluation of a witness, it's a trial.  

 

I'll also point out that Gaetz has seemingly somehow gained MORE power in his party after that. 

 

 

1) Gaetz isn't a mob boss. He's an elected Congressman. He wasn't even the "boss" of the shenanigans that were occurring in Florida, the other dude was.

 

2) It's imperative to have corroborating evidence to back up the testimony given by the shady characters with vile records, or else all you're doing is giving the defense ammo to insert reasonable doubt in the Jury's collective minds. They may not have had enough corroborating evidence to feel strong about their case.

[Spaceman Spiff]

2 hours ago, Califan007 The Constipated said:

 

 

 

1) Gaetz isn't a mob boss. He's an elected Congressman. He wasn't even the "boss" of the shenanigans that were occurring in Florida, the other dude was.

 

2) It's imperative to have corroborating evidence to back up the testimony given by the shady characters with vile records, or else all you're doing is giving the defense ammo to insert reasonable doubt in the Jury's collective minds. They may not have had enough corroborating evidence to feel strong about their case.

1.  Yes he is.

2.  Agreed.  But it doesn't mean that shady characters with checkered pasts can't give accurate information.  

3.  Gaetz is a piece of ****, it's a crime that this went away.

[Califan007 The Constipated]

32 minutes ago, Spaceman Spiff said:

1.  Yes he is.

2.  Agreed.  But it doesn't mean that shady characters with checkered pasts can't give accurate information.  

3.  Gaetz is a piece of ****, it's a crime that this went away.

 

1. No, he's not.

2. True, but you have to convince a jury that the info is accurate...the corroborating evidence goes a loooooooong way in doing just that.

3. No guarantee that it went away...could just be put on hold. Wish it wasn't, though. Then again, the House Ethics Committee did one helluva job on Santos with their report. They couldn't put him in jail but they did lead the way to him getting the boot out of Congress. Hoping that--at least as a start--the same ends up happening to Gaetz. The HEC doesn't need to convince a jury...they just need to release a damning report.

Edited December 14, 2023 by Califan007 The Constipated

[Larry]

14 minutes ago, Califan007 The Constipated said:

The HEC doesn't need to convince a jury...they just need to release a damning report.

 

They need to release things that are damning enough that Republicans will force him out. We've all seen that that can be a lot harder than convincing a jury. 

 

I would bet you that Santos wasn't expelled because of the ethics report. He was expelled because his poll numbers say he's guaranteed to lose, and that he'll be replaced by a Republican who has a chance of retaining the seat. 

[Califan007 The Constipated]

4 hours ago, Larry said:

 

They need to release things that are damning enough that Republicans will force him out. We've all seen that that can be a lot harder than convincing a jury. 

 

I would bet you that Santos wasn't expelled because of the ethics report. He was expelled because his poll numbers say he's guaranteed to lose, and that he'll be replaced by a Republican who has a chance of retaining the seat. 

 

If Santos was guaranteed to lose, they'd just primary him and keep his Republican vote until the election, because their insanely slim majority just got even slimmer by kicking him out. And they need every vote they can muster.

 

The truth with Santos--and probably also with Gaetz--is that he most likely became more of a hindrance than a help and very, VERY few Republicans liked him. He had no one in his corner due to not building any relationships during his short time in office.

[LadySkinsFan]

Plus they could get rid of the gay drag queen, anathema to the Republican Fsscists. He counted on being a liar like TFG to save him. Only applies to white guys.

[Califan007 The Constipated]

15 minutes ago, LadySkinsFan said:

Plus they could get rid of the gay drag queen, anathema to the Republican Fsscists. He counted on being a liar like TFG to save him. Only applies to white guys.

 

Good point(s)...especially the part in bold.

[Califan007 The Constipated]