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Miami student threw 20-person house party a week after COVID-19 diagnosis

 

OXFORD, Ohio — A police body-camera recording released Wednesday shed more light on the house party that earned six Miami University students citations for violating COVID-19 health orders over Labor Day weekend.

 

There were 20 people inside the house on Saturday afternoon, when an Oxford police officer arrived to break up the party. In the recording, he approaches a group of young men sitting outside and asks to speak to someone who lives in the house.

 

One steps forward and admits he knows he’s broken the state’s rule against gatherings larger than 10 people.

 

The officer takes his ID, runs it through a police database and discovers that its owner had tested positive for COVID-19.

 

This exchange follows:

 

Officer: I’ve never seen this before. There’s an input on the computer that you tested positive for COVID.
Student: Yes.
Officer: When was this?
Student: This was a week ago.
Officer: Are you supposed to be quarantining?
Student: Yeah. That’s why I’m at my house.
Officer: So you have other people here, and you’re positive for COVID?
Student: I mean…
Officer: You see the problem? How many other people have COVID?
Student: They all do.
Officer: Everybody has it?
Student: Well, and them — [gestures to house across the street]
Officer: And everybody over here has it?
Student: Well, I think two.
Officer: That’s what we’re trying to prevent, man.
Student: I know.
Officer: We’re trying to keep this town open.
Student: I know. That’s why I’m staying home.

 

Six men who lived in the house were cited, a civil penalty that carries no criminal charge but comes with a $500 fine.

 

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8 hours ago, zskins said:

I haven't been in this thread for a while now and saw that we should be worried about covid-19 and the winter that is coming. Didn't we just go through the winter months last year in the height of covid-19?

 

What am I missing here?

 

The height of COVID-19 was April-June. That is, if you go by death rate alone. The height of COVID cases was mid-June through August. May still be in that peak, though.

 

Flu season usually starts in Nov, so we'll have the flu and COVID to contend with. Flu season can bring 30,000+ more deaths on top of whatever COVID deaths occur, and God help anyone who ends up with both viruses simultaneously.

 

"At a February 26 press conference, President Donald J. Trump said of the novel coronavirus, “This is like a flu,” and expressed surprise that as many as 69 000 people in the US die of influenza every year.

 

However, the ensuing 5½ months have shown that coronavirus disease 2019 (COVID-19) is far deadlier and less predictable than seasonal influenza. Unlike influenza, COVID-19 does not appear to be seasonal, given the ever-increasing numbers of US cases this summer.

 

So beginning this fall, the US for the first time will have to deal with a flu season wrapped in a global pandemic. Or, as the headline on a recent editorial by Edward Belongia, MD, and Michael Osterholm, PhD, MPH, described it, “a perfect storm.”

 

What Happens When COVID-19 Collides With Flu Season?

https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jama/fullarticle/2769835

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Not sure if anyone saw the NFL game last night but they had a stat that they have tested over 64k tests since middle of August and have had exactly 5 positives.  They were all non players too.

 

And then in the game they showed these little fitbit looking things that all personel must wear and it basically tracks where everyone is at all times while doing NFL stuff.  So that if someone comes down with covid, they can immediately do contact tracing and know exactly who the person with it was around, for how long, and how close they were.

 

That is some really neat tech they are using.

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1 hour ago, purbeast said:

Not sure if anyone saw the NFL game last night but they had a stat that they have tested over 64k tests since middle of August and have had exactly 5 positives.  They were all non players too.

 

And then in the game they showed these little fitbit looking things that all personel must wear and it basically tracks where everyone is at all times while doing NFL stuff.  So that if someone comes down with covid, they can immediately do contact tracing and know exactly who the person with it was around, for how long, and how close they were.

 

That is some really neat tech they are using.

 

But it will never work nationally because of people's privacy concerns:

 

App-Based Contact Tracing Has Been a Bust. Apple Wants to Try Something New.

 

So far, attempts to use apps for contact tracing in the U.S. have largely fallen flat. Each state has had to decide whether to issue an app at all, and then what kind of system to use. States that have created apps have struggled to get people to download them at all. But Apple is hoping it might change things.

 

Last week, Apple released iOS 13.7 with built-in support for a new coronavirus contact tracing system. Unlike previous efforts to leverage smartphones for contact tracing, this built-in system doesn’t require you to use an app issued by your state. A notification will appear on iPhones that the tool is available, and users only have to tap the screen to enable it. (Google has released a complementary tool for Android, though it still requires users to download a separate app.) This could be a significant step in getting more people, which is crucial for the contract tracing to work, but there are still a number of outstanding issues with the technology.

 

Earlier in the pandemic, Apple and Google partnered on an exposure notification system that states and countries were supposed to use to build their own apps. Their system, like the new feature in iOS, takes advantage of Bluetooth signals that smartphones can emit and receive to track instances in which two users come within a close distance of each other. When a user reports a positive coronavirus test to the app, it sends a notification to everyone else that person has been in contact with. Studies indicate that about 60 percent of the population needs to be using such systems in order to considerably slow infections, though it could still be somewhat effective with adoption rates as low as 15 percent.

 

So far, it doesn’t look like any locale in the U.S. has reached that level of penetration, partly due to privacy concerns from the public. Indeed, people have reportedly been wary about divulging info like home addresses and names of acquaintances. Less than 5 percent of the population in North Dakota downloaded the state’s app as of June, while only about 1.8 percent of Utahns had done so by July. A June survey further found that 71 percent of Americans were not planning on downloading these apps. 

 

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4 hours ago, Califan007 said:

So beginning this fall, the US for the first time will have to deal with a flu season wrapped in a global pandemic. Or, as the headline on a recent editorial by Edward Belongia, MD, and Michael Osterholm, PhD, MPH, described it, “a perfect storm.”

 

I guess what I am trying to understand is that most of the people are already staying home because of covid-19. So, to me the normal flu season will have less impact instead as less people will be out and about to spread the flu virus as well. 

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A Peculiar Symptom Of COVID-19: Coffee Smells Like Rotting Meat

 

Dr. Katie Loftus was treating coronavirus patients at Mount Sinai Hospital Health System until she got sick herself. It was a mild case of COVID-19, and after two weeks, she was back at work. 

 

Two months later, a new problem emerged.

 

“I started noticing a very bad smell at a lot different places and different scents I would encounter,” said Loftus, an anesthesiologist. “It smells like something rotten, almost like rotten meat.”

Comforting scents like lavender, breakfast cereal and coffee suddenly were foul.

 

“Walking into a Starbucks is a totally disgusting thing to do right now,” she said. 

 

“With this novel coronavirus, we are seeing a very high frequency or a high population of patients that have a change in the sense of smell or taste,” said Dr. Alfred M.C. Iloreta, Jr., an otolaryngology specialist and member of the Division of Rhinology and Skull Base Surgery at Mount Sinai.  

 

Iloreta says he's treating more and more people who have recovered from COVID-19 wrestling with changes to their sense of smell and taste. He estimates that 50 percent to 70 percent of patients with mild-to-moderate cases of COVID-19 have some degree of impairment. Some have lost those senses completely. 

 

“What we think is that the virus specifically attacks or attaches where we smell and that’s called the olfactory cleft. It’s where the nerve sits that senses these particles in the air that we perceive or we sense,” Iloreta explained.

 

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I've had that realization.  The smell of bacon/sausage and eggs, or potatoes, smells like straight up pungent barf. I've noticed this for about the past 6 months.

 

I usually drink green tea with lemon in the morning, and it went from a faint, basic lemony taste, to a nasty, bitter taste, bitter like someone put a cigarette out in the tea.

 

Some sweet drinks, and air fresheners have become so overpowering now that I don't use them.

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3 hours ago, Mr. Sinister said:

I've had that realization.  The smell of bacon/sausage and eggs, or potatoes, smells like straight up pungent barf. I've noticed this for about the past 6 months.

 

I usually drink green tea with lemon in the morning, and it went from a faint, basic lemony taste, to a nasty, bitter taste, bitter like someone put a cigarette out in the tea.

 

Some sweet drinks, and air fresheners have become so overpowering now that I don't use them.

 

Have you considered changing your avatar?  

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3 minutes ago, visionary said:

What a shock.

 

"See? This is the media just spreading fear! Trump was right to lie about kids being practically immune to COVID to keep everyone calm. The facts would have sent parents into a panic. So like Trump said, we need to open schools now. Send your kids to school without worry, everyone! Don't listen to facts, Listen to Trump!"

 

- About 40% of twitter right now

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