Renegade7 Posted June 28, 2020 Share Posted June 28, 2020 1 hour ago, Mr. Sinister said: Really? Well I dunno. I think Scherzer's personality probably plays into it a bit too, along with Strasburg. With Max you'd think that he might bite chunks out of someone if he wasn't the #1 SP, whereas with Strasburg, it seems like he couldn't care less if he was 1, 2 or 3 This is what Davey is paid to figure out as manager of the team. It's opening game, not October, this conversation matters more with more on the line. But the idea of placating Max already bothers me, even for a team that just won the World Series. Stras was drafted for this role that I'd argue he's earned and Max still feels entitled to. Cool, Max wants to kill everything that walks when he's on the mound. If that's his own team if they get in his way, that's a problem. Not saying it's there, but it's going to be here fast if it isnt already. We are all lucky we didn't have to watch a declining Jordan do to the Bulls what Kobe did to the Lakers on his way out. We got a taste of what that would've looked like when he played for the Wizards. Someone needs to pull Max to the side and tell it to him straight, "kill when its your turn to kill". If the alpha in him doesn't want to accept that, try to trade him to New York for Judge and let it be there problem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skinfan2k Posted June 28, 2020 Share Posted June 28, 2020 Stras really put it together last year. Max has 5+ straight years of A+ dominance. Thats why he is the ace. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Sinister Posted June 28, 2020 Share Posted June 28, 2020 1 minute ago, skinfan2k said: Stras really put it together last year. Max has 5+ straight years of A+ dominance. Thats why he is the ace. Probably the most likely reason why. Or a combination of all three 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skinfan2k Posted June 28, 2020 Share Posted June 28, 2020 Before last year, arm concerns, being healthy, pitching long into games, being considered soft mainly play into why he was not the ace Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Riggo#44 Posted June 28, 2020 Author Share Posted June 28, 2020 39 minutes ago, skinfan2k said: Stras really put it together last year. Max has 5+ straight years of A+ dominance. Thats why he is the ace. 7+. Max has 7 straight top 5 Cy Young finishes and is a Hall of Famer. You don't just brush that aside. Stras was amazing last year, but this is still Max's team. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renegade7 Posted June 28, 2020 Share Posted June 28, 2020 7 minutes ago, Riggo#44 said: 7+. Max has 7 straight top 5 Cy Young finishes and is a Hall of Famer. You don't just brush that aside. Stras was amazing last year, but this is still Max's team. April to September, maybe... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Riggo#44 Posted June 28, 2020 Author Share Posted June 28, 2020 2 minutes ago, Renegade7 said: April to September, maybe... Its a nice problem to have, but this is still Max's team. There really isn't any arguing that. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renegade7 Posted June 28, 2020 Share Posted June 28, 2020 (edited) 16 minutes ago, Riggo#44 said: Its a nice problem to have, but this is still Max's team. There really isn't any arguing that. What does that even mean, though, honest question? That's like asking is it Beals team when Wall comes back. Wall shouldn't of been asked to take the last shot as much as he was, my point is about Max demanding to be the guy in potential elimination games when Stras is proving to be better at that right now. Whether it's Max team or not is irrelevant to me, it's only a good problem if he doesn't make it a problem when we should be giving Stras the ball. If we on the same page that's where we are we better make sure Max knows that. Edited June 28, 2020 by Renegade7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Riggo#44 Posted June 28, 2020 Author Share Posted June 28, 2020 17 minutes ago, Renegade7 said: Whether it's Max team or not is irrelevant to me, it's only a good problem if he doesn't make it a problem when we should be giving Stras the ball. If we on the same page that's where we are we better make sure Mac knows that. I guarantee it's relevant to the team. Max is still the ace, even Stras would say that. The clubhouse is a delicate eco system, you don't want to upset that balance. Max is the leader of this staff and of this team. What Strasburg did was stuff of legend, i dropped $300 on a Stras jersey too,, but Max still had a great year last year--he was 3rd in CYA voting, and very good in the playoffs. His Game 7 performance was insane given the circumstances. Plus given how crazy this year is going to be, you want to upset the apple cart as little as possible. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CRobi21 Posted June 28, 2020 Share Posted June 28, 2020 I like Scherzers fastball/slider combo against a lineup of right handed power hitters myself.. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Riggo#44 Posted June 28, 2020 Author Share Posted June 28, 2020 one more thing, if we were allowed to Opening Day, I'd be rocking said Strasburg jersey, loud and proud. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Sinister Posted June 28, 2020 Share Posted June 28, 2020 Great "Problem" to have. Lot of teams don't even have a true ace 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Riggo#44 Posted June 28, 2020 Author Share Posted June 28, 2020 Just now, Mr. Sinister said: Great "Problem" to have. Lot of teams don't even have a true ace We had 3 of the top 15 pitchers last year. 3 legitimate aces. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Sinister Posted June 28, 2020 Share Posted June 28, 2020 Btw, I think I mentioned that my mom is working Rona hotlines in Miami (she decided to take it up after my cousin died from it). Told me today how she was helping out this one cat, 17 yo kid that thinks he got it from a pool party. Sounded like death and has permanent scarring over his heart and was scheduled to see a cardiologist. I Imagine if it was somebody in the MLB, say a hotshot newcomer like Pete Alonso or Soto, that all of a sudden has to retire, it would be absolutely heartbreaking. I hope these fellas stay safe 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warhead36 Posted June 29, 2020 Share Posted June 29, 2020 Scherzer is the ace. Stras doesn't like the attention anyway and I'm sure he'd hate having to start Opening Day against the Yanks in a title defense(not that he wouldn't be up for it and he'd pitch a gem). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Cooleyfan1993 Posted June 29, 2020 Share Posted June 29, 2020 Ya know, part of me kinda was hoping there’d be no season so that we’d be the only team raising a banner in 2021. Now that there’s a season, i feel like ours won’t be AS relevant in terms of most recent World Series champ. But hey, maybe we’ll get lucky and win back to back, in this shortened season. Then we can raise TWO banners once fans are allowed back to the ballparks. Imagine how insanely loud Nats park will be then😮 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
@DCGoldPants Posted June 29, 2020 Share Posted June 29, 2020 6 hours ago, Cooleyfan1993 said: Ya know, part of me kinda was hoping there’d be no season so that we’d be the only team raising a banner in 2021. Now that there’s a season, i feel like ours won’t be AS relevant in terms of most recent World Series champ. But hey, maybe we’ll get lucky and win back to back, in this shortened season. Then we can raise TWO banners once fans are allowed back to the ballparks. Imagine how insanely loud Nats park will be then😮 I feel like any 2020 championship is already viewed as less than 2019. That goes for all sports with maybe the exception of the NFL if they pull off a season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skinfan2k Posted June 29, 2020 Share Posted June 29, 2020 12 hours ago, Riggo#44 said: We had 3 of the top 15 pitchers last year. 3 legitimate aces. Having Corbin and Sanchez was the major difference in last year playoff run. We could never bring Max or Stras out of the pen if we didn't have 2 more legit starters. I don't think anyone in the org had confidence in Gio or Roark to perform under the lights. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Riggo#44 Posted June 29, 2020 Author Share Posted June 29, 2020 Gio was a solid if unspectacular pitcher for us...April-September. But playoffs...yeesh...He never made it out of the 5th in any of his playoff starts--including Game 5's in 12 and 17, where we couldn't hold the lead, partly because Gio wouldn't stop walking people. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CRobi21 Posted June 29, 2020 Share Posted June 29, 2020 More to come for sure around the MLB. This season, if played at all, should just be seen as a half season of exhibition games. Have a short tournament at the end if they want, but no way should there be a team crowned World Series Champion. 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
@DCGoldPants Posted June 29, 2020 Share Posted June 29, 2020 with players opting out, I really don't want to see a WS trophy handed to anyone this year. At this point, do like an Olympics style something with randomized round robin tourney over like 4-5 weeks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Riggo#44 Posted June 29, 2020 Author Share Posted June 29, 2020 I'm willing to bed Doolittle opts out too. There are 2-3 others that are considering it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheGoodBits Posted June 29, 2020 Share Posted June 29, 2020 The season’s not going to happen. Just like the in-person school year for kids is not going to happen. I get that people want things to be normal and make an effort toward that, but the reality is the virus doesn’t care. You open stuff up, it spreads. You send kids to school, it’s only a matter of time until there’s a significant outbreak in that school. You try to play baseball, your players and coaches risk getting sick. There’s almost no chance they can play baseball for 3 months without at least one team, likely several, having to forfeit their season because their whole team has covid. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sticksboi05 Posted June 29, 2020 Share Posted June 29, 2020 Good for Zimmerman. No need to risk for a half ass fake season anyway. We are WORLD SERIES CHAMPIONS!!! 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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