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      ES Coverage: Giants vs Redskins 
       
      12/9/18
       
      DEFEAT!!!
       
      Giants 40 - Redskins 16
       
      Greetings friends, JimmiJo here, and I am joined by my shivering partner, Spaceman Spiff. Together we will bring you this all important NFC East divisional matchup between the Washington Redskins and New York Giants.
       
      When I was last with you the Redskins had command of the division and there was optimism to spare. Since, devastating injuries to quarterbacks, linemen, and cornerbacks has left this team losers in 4-of-5 contests.
       
      But there is still everything to play for, and if they can manage a victory today and the Eagles to the same Washington will once again have a share of the lead.
       
      I can dream can't I?
       
      On paper, the future looks grim. A continued collapse will start the questions about the future of personnel and perhaps leadership. Yes, we can certainly point to injuries as the primary reason the team is struggling. But the record earlier in the year was masking some issues with the squad. No real arial threat. An inconsistent running game. And a defense that has been anything but consistent.
       
      But these are questions for another time. Today, it is just two teams looking for a win.
       
      See you at the half.
       
      Follow along on Twitter @Skinscast 
       
      Inactives
       
      The Redskins declared the following players as inactive:
      o   No. 12 QB Colt McCoy
      o   No. 32 RB Samaje Perine
      o   No. 46 RB Kapri Bibbs
      o   No. 52 LB Ryan Anderson
      o   No. 63 C Demetrius Rhaney
      o   No. 66 G Tony Bergstrom
      o   No. 99 DL Caleb Brantley
       
      JimmiJo
       
      I was happy to see players like Josh Johnson and Byron Marshall in the game. The marquee guys did not earn the right to play following the disastrous first half. It was historically bad.
       
      Never before had the Washington Redskins trailed by as much as the 34-0 deficit they entertained today at the half.
       
      I remarked to one of the writers that in 13-seasons I had never seen this team so outplayed as today. The offense led by Mark Sanchez was throw-up in mouth bad. At no point did you feel like they would or could score.
       
      I tweeted before the game that it is time for Daniel Snyder to replaced head coach Jay Gruden. Yes injuries are the headline. But the offense was poor before the injuries.
       
      No aerial threat and an inconsistent rushing. They only seemed to score 20-points per game.
       
      What they did do well was hold on to the ball. And the defense was a takeover machine the first half of the year.
      But turnovers tend to even out.
       
      So I was more than glad to see those ‘backups’ play. All they did was show they should have been playing in the first half.
       
      Especially Johnson. Take a look at your Redskins’ starter the rest of the way. From his first snap the offense looked different. There was energy. There was life.
       
      And there was threat.
       
      Johnson played with more command, accuracy and imagination than Mark Sanchez. He looked much more the accomplished quarterback.
       
      A word on Josh Doctson. You are an idiot. Without the stupid penalty you are not letting the safety out-position you to make the pick with 5-minutes left.
       
      Following this game, staring at the standings and considering possible scenarios for getting in the playoffs is fools’ gold. It is all about assessing who it worth keeping for next year.
       
      I don’t believe head coach Jay Gruden is going to make the list. Nor should he. He has had nore than enough time to do something here. He had Kirk Cousins’ starting over 3-full seasons.
       
      He had his chance.
       
      I tweeted before the game team owner Daniel Snyder should let Gruden go and bring in Mike McCarthy. Washington Post writer (and friend) Rick Snider made a great counterpoint to that idea:
       
      “Why would McCarthy want to come here? He has better options,” he said.
       
      That sure feels like the truth. And if so, it may explain why Gruden is fast becoming one of the most tenured coaches in the league.
       
      This was my last game for this season. I would like to thank Extremeskins and the team for the opportunity this year. I will see you guys next year.
       
      Let me go on the record now and say I do not think Jay Gruden's position here is secure. Not with the likes of Mike McCarthy available.
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2018 Embrace [Insert QB name here] Thread

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With Alex Smith and Colt McCoy finished, we need a new thread for our new QB. Maybe it's Sanchez, maybe it's going to be the guy we sign later this week who ends up starting after 2 games.

 

Mark Sanchez is bad. I don't think anyone can disagree with thatEJ Manuel and TJ Yates were worked out last when we signed Sanchez. Any chance we bring them in again?

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EJ Manuel might be the only guy worse than Sanchez. I would be fine with Kap, but it won't happen, so I'll go with Bradford.

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Seriously, a new GM and Coach, obviously. But the only plan that makes sense is to trade vets for draft picks, trade down in this draft for future picks, accept a bad year and the higher pick that comes with while amassing draft capital for a future Franchise QB.

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I know people have mentioned Bradford, but Bradford keeps a crutch in the locker of every team he plays for. Our 4th string QB being injury prone is the only way we could make this even worse lol

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At this point formulation of an offense that requires no QB is what’s needed.   I’m not saying it’s easy - but yeah that’s our only option.  

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Just now, Rufus T Firefly said:

Seriously, a new GM and Coach, obviously. But the only plan that makes sense is to trade vets for draft picks, trade down in this draft for future picks, accept a bad year and the higher pick that comes with while amassing draft capital for a future Franchise QB.

 

This.  I think I read that we can get $50+M in cap space by cutting or trading Reed/Thompson/Davis/Norman/Brown.

 

Time to bottom out for 2019.

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New coaches and plans for next year sound good, but right now they need to figure out who can play QB and finish out the year lol

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2 minutes ago, TryTheBeal! said:

 

This.  I think I read that we can get $50+M in cap space by cutting or trading Reed/Thompson/Davis/Norman/Brown.

 

Time to bottom out for 2019.

Williams and Kerrigan. They have some trade value, have one year left on their contracts and we'd be dumb to re-sign them. But that doesn't happen if we have the Allen/Gruden go for 9-7 routine happening again.

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Anyone young and who can throw the ball downfield. I heard Paxton Lynch mentioned before, maybe give him a chance.

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6 minutes ago, NickyJ said:

New coaches and plans for next year sound good, but right now they need to figure out who can play QB and finish out the year lol

Honestly when I first responded I thought it said 2019, but I let my post stand. 

 

For this year, my first choice would be to sign Kurt Benkert off the Falcons PS. Young guy with at least a hint of upside, could at least be around for next year's camp. Sign whatever vet to back up Sanchez for a couple of games until Kurt learns the offense a little. I don't really care who.

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14 minutes ago, Rufus T Firefly said:

Honestly when I first responded I thought it said 2019, but I let my post stand. 

 

For this year, my first choice would be to sign Kurt Benkert off the Falcons PS. Young guy with at least a hint of upside, could at least be around for next year's camp. Sign whatever vet to back up Sanchez for a couple of games until Kurt learns the offense a little. I don't really care who.

 

The positive here is that Bruce won't have any problem pronouncing Kurt. 

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Just now, zskins said:

 

The positive here is that Bruce won't have any problem pronouncing Kurt. 

Well, obviously my first priority is to see if he calls him "Kirk".

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I think the statement below is true.  Colt as I and many have said many times, its not just that his play is questionable in his career but the dude has been as brittle as glass.  So now 2 QBs coming off broken legs?  I am going to pay special attention now to Haskins, Lock, Grier, etc in the bowl games -- I think they are going for one.  You can't really use FA unless you go bottom of the barrel because you already got about 25 million tied in Alex and Colt.

 

 

 

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1 hour ago, Idaho fan said:

At this point formulation of an offense that requires no QB is what’s needed.   I’m not saying it’s easy - but yeah that’s our only option.  

Exact opposite conversation we were having this time a year ago.

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This year it doesn't matter anymore... who ever is available will be fine... we will ride the Mark Sanchez boat. 

Teddy Bridgwater is on a one year deal with the Saints, Brees is playing amazing and it doesn't seem he will retire... he will come here to be a starter, with a team friendly contract for 2019... for me is the obvious choice

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Yeah I think Bridgewater is the best target.  

 

Is Smith done for?  Like really done for?  We either hope he retires and we get some of that money back, or that he heals miraculously well and comes back like Week 5 next year?  I don't know the timetable for his injury.

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we might not have a franchise QB for another 2 or 3 years now. cause Redskins. this is quite possibly the lowest I've ever felt as a fan 

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10 minutes ago, abdcskins said:

Yeah I think Bridgewater is the best target.  

 

Is Smith done for?  Like really done for?  We either hope he retires and we get some of that money back, or that he heals miraculously well and comes back like Week 5 next year?  I don't know the timetable for his injury.

He's got a guaranteed 31 mil coming to him if he doesn't retire, so forget about that happening.

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8 minutes ago, Cooleyfan1993 said:

we might not have a franchise QB for another 2 or 3 years now. cause Redskins. this is quite possibly the lowest I've ever felt as a fan 

 

I've been trying to avoid this, but you might be right. Maybe we get lucky and get Bridgewater or trade up to draft someone.  But it could be very well be oblivion for us until my mid 30s, jus like that. 

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