bearrock Posted September 25, 2018 Share Posted September 25, 2018 Just now, skinny21 said: In that sense, yes - it’s a male thing, not a party thing. I don’t see equivalents to Trump, Roy Moore, Kavanaugh, etc. on the dem side though - guys that wanted to “plow through” the allegations. How would Bill Clinton look in 2018? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
visionary Posted September 25, 2018 Share Posted September 25, 2018 (edited) More prep....(keep in mind judiciary staff generally refers to Republican committee leadership staff) Edited September 25, 2018 by visionary Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skinny21 Posted September 25, 2018 Share Posted September 25, 2018 (edited) 6 minutes ago, bearrock said: How would Bill Clinton look in 2018? My hunch is “bad” because of the power dynamic (though I have issues with the infidelity angle too). On the ‘bright’ side, his situation didn’t exactly deal with sexual assault, bragging about it, rape, gang rape, or pedophelia. Edit: Or ‘trains’. Can’t believe I just felt the need to type that... ugh. Edited September 25, 2018 by skinny21 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
justice98 Posted September 25, 2018 Share Posted September 25, 2018 Just now, skinny21 said: My hunch is “bad” because of the power dynamic (though I have issues with the infidelity angle too). On the ‘bright’ side, his situation didn’t exactly deal with sexual assault, bragging about it, rape, gang rape, or pedophelia. He has at least 3 or 4 in that regard before he became president though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedskinsFan44 Posted September 25, 2018 Share Posted September 25, 2018 6 minutes ago, bearrock said: How would Bill Clinton look in 2018? Didn't stop Trump. I think people shrugged off Flowers and to a lesser extent Lewinsky because they were consensual (though the power dynamic with Lewinsky makes that questionable), Broadrick (sp?) and Jones were viewed through party lenses much in the way Kavanaugh is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kilmer17 Posted September 25, 2018 Share Posted September 25, 2018 4 minutes ago, skinny21 said: My hunch is “bad” because of the power dynamic (though I have issues with the infidelity angle too). On the ‘bright’ side, his situation didn’t exactly deal with sexual assault, bragging about it, rape, gang rape, or pedophelia. Edit: Or ‘trains’. Can’t believe I just felt the need to type that... ugh. Multiple women accused Bill Clinton of rape. They’ve been ignored. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hersh Posted September 25, 2018 Share Posted September 25, 2018 1 hour ago, B&G said: Question: Do liberals believe in the presumption of innocence or just their "feelings"about whether someone is guilty of a crime or not? Answer: Read the posts made in this thread and all will be made clear. Absolutely pathetic and shameful. Look everyone, the winner showed up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedskinsFan44 Posted September 25, 2018 Share Posted September 25, 2018 4 minutes ago, justice98 said: He has at least 3 or 4 in that regard before he became president though. Best I can see the Broaddrick, Jones, and Wiley allegations all came after he was President. Flowers is the only one I remember from the 1992 election. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
visionary Posted September 25, 2018 Share Posted September 25, 2018 (edited) 5 minutes ago, Kilmer17 said: Multiple women accused Bill Clinton of rape. They’ve been ignored. No they haven't been ignored. But I agree that Bill Clinton should not be on the Supreme Court. Edited September 25, 2018 by visionary 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedskinsFan44 Posted September 25, 2018 Share Posted September 25, 2018 I mean honestly, Kennedy might be the one who would look the worst today. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kilmer17 Posted September 25, 2018 Share Posted September 25, 2018 I do think it’s odd that we have a higher standard for Justices than we do for Presidents and presidential candidates. 1 minute ago, visionary said: No they haven't been ignored. But I agree that Bill Clinton should not be on the Supreme Court. Dismissed is probably a better term than ignored. The Dems certainly didn’t care about them. 2 minutes ago, RedskinsFan44 said: I mean honestly, Kennedy might be the one who would look the worst today. Which one? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
justice98 Posted September 25, 2018 Share Posted September 25, 2018 (edited) 3 hours ago, B&G said: NoCal, the FBI has said they don't do investigations of this sort. They do background checks and forward the results to the Senate. The state of Maryland has declined to pursue the issue. Who do Dems want to do the investigation? Maybe CIA or NSA? We shouldn't get bogged down in the background check vs investigation here. For this purpose, they serve the same purpose. There's an acronym in the FBI about background investigations called Carla F Bad: Characters, Associates, Reputation, Loyalty, Ability, Finances, Bias, Alcohol and Drugs. The background check looking into those things could uncover some additional info, as some of those things are pertinent to the allegations. The real problem is the how much info they would get about the guy from 30+ years ago and finding people willing to give it. Edited September 26, 2018 by justice98 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
visionary Posted September 25, 2018 Share Posted September 25, 2018 (edited) 7 minutes ago, Kilmer17 said: I do think it’s odd that we have a higher standard for Justices than we do for Presidents and presidential candidates. Dismissed is probably a better term than ignored. The Dems certainly didn’t care about them. Which one? I think we expect Presidents to lie, since they're still politicians, but judges are supposed to be more honest and theoretically above politics and able to rule on the merits of a case...maybe. I don't know, I hated Bill Clinton when he was president and certainly don't like Trump. Hmmm. Not sure what to make of this. I think we need more info. Edited September 25, 2018 by visionary Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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grego Posted September 25, 2018 Share Posted September 25, 2018 47 minutes ago, visionary said: No they haven't been ignored. Were they investigated? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sacks 'n' Stuff Posted September 25, 2018 Share Posted September 25, 2018 Bill Clinton's sexual behavior was an embarrassment and a disgrace. 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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RedskinsFan44 Posted September 25, 2018 Share Posted September 25, 2018 57 minutes ago, Kilmer17 said: I do think it’s odd that we have a higher standard for Justices than we do for Presidents and presidential candidates. Dismissed is probably a better term than ignored. The Dems certainly didn’t care about them. Which one? Depends on what you believe about Marilyn. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Kilmer17 Posted September 25, 2018 Share Posted September 25, 2018 (edited) 6 minutes ago, RedskinsFan44 said: Depends on what you believe about Marilyn. I prefer our govt leaders to show discretion with their indiscretions Edited September 25, 2018 by Kilmer17 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoCalMike Posted September 25, 2018 Share Posted September 25, 2018 (edited) They are voting on Friday? LOL. They don't care. They never did. Edited September 25, 2018 by NoCalMike Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kilmer17 Posted September 25, 2018 Share Posted September 25, 2018 1 minute ago, NoCalMike said: They are voting on Friday? LOL. Friday or Sat? I’ve seen both. And that’s just the Jud committee. Still has to go to full senate Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoCalMike Posted September 25, 2018 Share Posted September 25, 2018 2 minutes ago, Kilmer17 said: Friday or Sat? I’ve seen both. And that’s just the Jud committee. Still has to go to full senate The fact that they keep wanting to move it up seems to suggest they are just looking to go through the motions tomorrow and, they are afraid of more accusations/information being released the longer the confirmation is delayed. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tshile Posted September 25, 2018 Share Posted September 25, 2018 8 hours ago, Llevron said: Oh I should have been specific im not talking about anyone on ES I dont even remember what yall said in regards to Cosby i meant more twitter and junk TV personalities. Yeah no worries, was just adding to the conversation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tshile Posted September 25, 2018 Share Posted September 25, 2018 7 hours ago, BenningRoadSkin said: the problem with Barrett is that she is on record anti-Roe vs. Wade. Her law review articles and writings state that. So what? you gotta win elections if you want to control that. The gop is always going to put those people on the court. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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