Skinsinparadise Posted December 31, 2017 Share Posted December 31, 2017 9 minutes ago, RonArtest15 said: I have a feeling that if our current FO stays in tact, they're going to give up the farm to move up to take Barkley. I don't see how he gets past #3, the Colts pick. So to move up from lets say #16 would be an RG3 type of haul. I'd doubt they'd be that brazen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RonArtest15 Posted December 31, 2017 Share Posted December 31, 2017 5 minutes ago, Skinsinparadise said: I don't see how he gets past #3, the Colts pick. So to move up from lets say #16 would be an RG3 type of haul. I'd doubt they'd be that brazen. I think the hype is real...one of the 5 best RB prospects I've seen in my life in college ball. However, I just cant help this feeling I get that Danny/Bruce are going to be all in. I'm REALLY worried about them calling the shots. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burgold Posted December 31, 2017 Share Posted December 31, 2017 6 minutes ago, Skinsinparadise said: I don't see how he gets past #3, the Colts pick. So to move up from lets say #16 would be an RG3 type of haul. I'd doubt they'd be that brazen. I can't see it either if there is any plan to keep Cousins. If we keep Kirk we will not have free agent money to patch holes which means the draft becomes even more important. If Kirk leaves then I could see the FO trying to pull off a super splashy move to try to pacify fans. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thinking Skins Posted December 31, 2017 Share Posted December 31, 2017 the way these bowl games are going and with Barkley looking so good, i could see another year of teams early going offense and defensive skill positions and ignoring the line. I think that like last year, we are in a unique position where we don't need position x or player y. And i could see a number of d linemen dropping and some lbs. Maybe we could trade down too because we have multiple needs, but i feel like this team is so talented that we don't be need to go all in. That said, as good as Barkley is playing, i don't want him. Guys like Chubb, Key, Payne and Vita may be available and better values. Then we could pick up a player like Love or Johnson or Chubb in the second. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skinsinparadise Posted December 31, 2017 Share Posted December 31, 2017 We need the Cardinals to win to climb the draft board a little. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gooseneck Posted December 31, 2017 Share Posted December 31, 2017 15 minutes ago, Skinsinparadise said: We need the Cardinals to win to climb the draft board a little. I think we draft 14 th or 15th depending on what they do Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skinsinparadise Posted December 31, 2017 Share Posted December 31, 2017 5 minutes ago, gooseneck said: I think we draft 14 th or 15th depending on what they do Yeah that's what it looks like Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gooseneck Posted December 31, 2017 Share Posted December 31, 2017 2 minutes ago, Skinsinparadise said: Yeah that's what it looks like Arizona just scored Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skinsinparadise Posted December 31, 2017 Share Posted December 31, 2017 15 minutes ago, gooseneck said: Arizona just scored Yeah but Seattle just scored back. If I am right, it would help if the Raiders, Dolphins and Bengals win, too. If I recall they alternate the tied record teams. The Redskins get screwed in the first round because of their strength of schedule. But I believe in the 2nd round they have the first pick among the 7-9 teams. I think they can get as high as the 10th pick in the 2nd round if the Raiders, Dolphins, Bengals win -- but not 100% sure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clskinsfan Posted December 31, 2017 Share Posted December 31, 2017 6 hours ago, Thinking Skins said: the way these bowl games are going and with Barkley looking so good, i could see another year of teams early going offense and defensive skill positions and ignoring the line. I think that like last year, we are in a unique position where we don't need position x or player y. And i could see a number of d linemen dropping and some lbs. Maybe we could trade down too because we have multiple needs, but i feel like this team is so talented that we don't be need to go all in. That said, as good as Barkley is playing, i don't want him. Guys like Chubb, Key, Payne and Vita may be available and better values. Then we could pick up a player like Love or Johnson or Chubb in the second. If Barkley slips for some reason and is available at say 3 or 4 picks before our pick I would be fine with moving up to get him. He is a game changing player. The only problem with trading up is this draft is really deep at QB and you could potentially get a starter in the second round. You dont really want to lose that pick either. Especially in this draft. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rufus T Firefly Posted December 31, 2017 Share Posted December 31, 2017 1 hour ago, Skinsinparadise said: Yeah but Seattle just scored back. If I am right, it would help if the Raiders, Dolphins and Bengals win, too. If I recall they alternate the tied record teams. The Redskins get screwed in the first round because of their strength of schedule. But I believe in the 2nd round they have the first pick among the 7-9 teams. I think they can get as high as the 10th pick in the 2nd round if the Raiders, Dolphins, Bengals win -- but not 100% sure. http://walterfootball.com/nfldraftorder2018.php Miami probably, but we'd lose the tiebreaker to those other two. Too much math to figure out how the tiebreak with GB would go, and Miami is close enough it could still flip with them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PlayAction Posted January 1, 2018 Share Posted January 1, 2018 On 12/30/2017 at 5:36 PM, panahoo said: Do you mean Ryan Anderson? J Allen has never and will never be a LB.... Yep!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gooseneck Posted January 1, 2018 Share Posted January 1, 2018 looks like we pick 14 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clskinsfan Posted January 1, 2018 Share Posted January 1, 2018 10 minutes ago, gooseneck said: looks like we pick 14 Are you sure about that? Arizona won and Miami and Oakland lost. Cincy can still knock the Ratbirds out of the playoffs. I think we could pick 13 if Cincy wins right? Hell yeah!!!! I love seeing Harbaugh curled over in pain. Only thing better than the Ravens losing out would be Dallas losing out! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redskindan07 Posted January 1, 2018 Share Posted January 1, 2018 Tankathon has us at 13 now, not sure what the bengals win will do Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gooseneck Posted January 1, 2018 Share Posted January 1, 2018 hope you are right-strength of schedule does not favor us but plaing the giants helps Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redskindan07 Posted January 1, 2018 Share Posted January 1, 2018 PICK TEAM RECORD WIN% GB SOS STREAK 1 Cleveland 0-16 .000 -- .520 Lost 16 2 NY Giants 3-13 .188 3.0 .531 Won 1 3 Indianapolis 4-12 .250 4.0 .480 Won 1 4 Houston CLE 4-12 .250 4.0 .516 Lost 6 5 Denver 5-11 .313 5.0 .492 Lost 2 6 NY Jets 5-11 .313 5.0 .520 Lost 4 7 Tampa Bay 5-11 .313 5.0 .555 Won 1 8 Chicago 5-11 .313 5.0 .559 Lost 1 9 San Francisco 6-10 .375 6.0 .512 Won 5 10 Oakland 6-10 .375 6.0 .512 Lost 4 11 Miami 6-10 .375 6.0 .543 Lost 3 12 Cincinnati 7-9 .438 7.0 .465 Won 2 13 Washington 7-9 .438 7.0 .539 Lost 1 14 Green Bay 7-9 .438 7.0 .539 Lost 3 15 Arizona 8-8 .500 8.0 .488 Won 2 16 Baltimore 9-7 .563 9.0 .441 Lost 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gooseneck Posted January 1, 2018 Share Posted January 1, 2018 1 minute ago, redskindan07 said: PICK TEAM RECORD WIN% GB SOS STREAK 1 Cleveland 0-16 .000 -- .520 Lost 16 2 NY Giants 3-13 .188 3.0 .531 Won 1 3 Indianapolis 4-12 .250 4.0 .480 Won 1 4 Houston CLE 4-12 .250 4.0 .516 Lost 6 5 Denver 5-11 .313 5.0 .492 Lost 2 6 NY Jets 5-11 .313 5.0 .520 Lost 4 7 Tampa Bay 5-11 .313 5.0 .555 Won 1 8 Chicago 5-11 .313 5.0 .559 Lost 1 9 San Francisco 6-10 .375 6.0 .512 Won 5 10 Oakland 6-10 .375 6.0 .512 Lost 4 11 Miami 6-10 .375 6.0 .543 Lost 3 12 Cincinnati 7-9 .438 7.0 .465 Won 2 13 Washington 7-9 .438 7.0 .539 Lost 1 14 Green Bay 7-9 .438 7.0 .539 Lost 3 15 Arizona 8-8 .500 8.0 .488 Won 2 16 Baltimore 9-7 .563 9.0 .441 Lost 1 thanks, looks good Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skinsinparadise Posted January 1, 2018 Share Posted January 1, 2018 14 minutes ago, redskindan07 said: Tankathon has us at 13 now, not sure what the bengals win will do I saw on one site we have the same strength of schedule exactly as the Packers. If so I think they do a coin flip to determine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rufus T Firefly Posted January 1, 2018 Share Posted January 1, 2018 https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/2018-nfl-draft-order-first-20-picks-set-browns-have-two-picks-in-the-top-four/ Coin flip, per CBS. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skinsinparadise Posted January 1, 2018 Share Posted January 1, 2018 6 minutes ago, Rufus T Firefly said: https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/2018-nfl-draft-order-first-20-picks-set-browns-have-two-picks-in-the-top-four/ Coin flip, per CBS. Looks like the coin flip is typically done on the first day of the combine. Maybe it will give us a window into the FO. Does Doug make the call? Bruce? Campbell? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skinsinparadise Posted January 1, 2018 Share Posted January 1, 2018 You got 4 teams ahead of us that need Qbs. And the Cardinals picking after us might leapfrog ahead to grab one so it could end up being 5. Typically, QBs that mocks consider 2nd round types tend to climb over time and end up going higher than expected. So I think there is a shot that Rudolph and L. Jackson end up going early. So maybe 4-5 QBs go before our pick. The way its looking these guys are likely gone before our pick: Chubb, Nelson, Barkley, Fitzpatrick, McGlinchey, C. Williams, at least one of the corners. It's early in the process but on the early go here guys like Derwin James, Ridley, R. Smith, Guice might be in play. Ditto some of the others guys discussed here of late like Vea and Wilkins I am hung up on stopping the run and running the ball. Reuben Foster is tearing it up for SF. Cooley said he heard Foster was the guy Jay wanted badly. I'd presume Cooley got that directly from Jay since they do a TV show together. I haven't studied Roquan Smith much, I've watched him some and look forward to watching him tomorrow. In theory, he seems to be of a similar brand as Foster. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrandonJ83 Posted January 1, 2018 Share Posted January 1, 2018 16 minutes ago, Skinsinparadise said: I am hung up on stopping the run and running the ball. Same here. If we keep Kirk and have a run stopping D and ball control offense, we can go far in the playoffs. Also the teams in our division maybe aside from Philly will have offenses dependent on running especially if the Giants pick Barkley(fingers crossed they don't). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skinsinparadise Posted January 1, 2018 Share Posted January 1, 2018 14 minutes ago, BrandonJ83 said: Same here. If we keep Kirk and have a run stopping D and ball control offense, we can go far in the playoffs. The thing I hate the most about the draft is waiting for it. Early mocks are often off -- I am more interested in mocks by the guys who at least claim to be talking to scouts-executives so I am interested in Albert Breer's one that I think is coming out tomorrow. Things always change post senior bowl, combine, etc. But for the moment, it looks like you can possibly get a really good defender with the first round like a R. Smith. And then double down on a D lineman like Tavern Bryan in the 2nd or a RB like Harris. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thinking Skins Posted January 1, 2018 Share Posted January 1, 2018 See, I'm more interested in mocks that come out post bowls (maybe post Senior Bowl as well) but pre combine. I don't know about "accuracy" of them but I trust a guy who says that a player is fast based on film more than based on a 40 time at the combine. I hate the stories of combine warriors who never amount to anything in the NFL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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