The Sewer That Is The GOP: With All The White Supremacists, Conspiracy Nutters, And Other Malicious Whacko Subgroups, How Does It Get Fixed?

[mistertim]

Republicans: "Sex between consenting adults of the same gender is an abomination, disgusting, and should be illegal!"

 

Also Republicans: "Sex with my first cousin?? NIIIIICE!"

[Jabbyrwock]

5 hours ago, Dan T. said:

 

 

The articles around this are behind pay walls.  Was this some sort of attempt to limit abortion access ( usually the discussed exclusions are for rape and incest)?

[Dan T.]

1 hour ago, Jabbyrwock said:

 

The articles around this are behind pay walls.  Was this some sort of attempt to limit abortion access ( usually the discussed exclusions are for rape and incest)?

He says that “cousin” was inadvertently left out of the bill.  The bill was actually intended to strengthen incest laws by making other forms of sexual contact besides intercourse illegal. 

[Larry]

5 hours ago, Cooked Crack said:

 

 

So, uh, Congressman (or whatever):  What did you want to change in the incest law?  

[China]

On 1/11/2024 at 1:18 AM, China said:

 

Kristina Karamo critics to appeal to national party amid Michigan GOP ‘chaos’

 

Three days after a contested vote to remove Michigan GOP Chair Kristina Karamo, opponents are preparing an appeal to the Republican National Committee in hopes of resolving the leadership dispute. 

 

The Saturday removal vote, backed by 40 out of 107 members of the Michigan GOP state committee, has effectively fractured the party, with both Karamo and her former co-chair Malinda Pego claiming control.

 

The factions now maintain separate state party websites and have issued competing press releases under the Michigan GOP banner less than two months from a primary and caucus that will help decide the GOP's presidential nominee. 

 

Karamo argues the weekend meeting was "illegitimate" despite critics claiming they followed  bylaws. 

 

Click on the link for the full article

 

And the saga continues...

 

Debt-ridden Michigan GOP seeks to sell headquarters to pay $500K loan currently in default

 

The Michigan Republican Party is struggling to stay afloat after failing to pay interest on a loan from Comerica Bank for more than 120 days. Now, the party is contemplating the sale of its headquarters in order to pay off some of its mounting debt.

 

According to nonprofit online news outlet Bridge Michigan, the Michigan GOP has been in default on a loan of more than $500,000 since December 12. Since then, the loan has accumulated more than $10,000 in interest and nearly $1,000 in late fees.

 

"The MRP has not responded to the Demand Letter and, as of the date of this Motion, has been in default for over 120 days," Comerica Bank wrote in a filing to Ingham County Circuit Court.

 

In response, Michigan Republican Party chair Kristina Karamo has launched a lawsuit on behalf of the party against both Comerica Bank and the Michigan Republican Party Trust — an entity made up of former state Republican Party chairs that manages the Michigan GOP headquarters building in Lansing — in an effort to regain control of the building and sell it to pay off debt. This all comes as the Mitten State is set to hold its presidential primary in late February.

 

Click on the link for the full article

 

[Spaceman Spiff]

This article is on The Atlantic but it popped up on my Apple News app.  Not sure how to link directly to it.

 

It's entitled "The Age of Incoherent Partisanship" by Tom Nichols.

 

Some highlights:

 

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On Tuesday, Representative Elise Stefanik called for an end to the GOP primary season—in January, after one caucus in which some 56,000 Iowa Republicans chose Donald Trump. “I am calling on every other candidate - all of whom have no chance to win - to drop out,” she said in a statement, “so we can unify and immediately rally behind President Trump so that we can focus 100% of our resources on defeating Joe Biden to Save America.”

 

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Maybe I spent too much of my career studying the Soviet Union, but Stefanik to me sounded like one of the old-school Kremlin Bolsheviks nominating the new general secretary and calling for an end to all this messy voting. Comrades, we have heard the voices of the Iowa regional party organization; they speak for the entire nation. The unreliable cadres who support the deviationists must now unite with us to defeat the wreckers and saboteurs.

 

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Long before Stefanik’s call for less democracy, I wondered what it means to be a Republican or a Democrat in 2024. The Republican answer is easy: To be a member of the party is to abandon all political principles, of any kind, and bend the knee to the personal needs of Donald Trump. For Democrats, it’s more complicated. The Democrats were always a gathering of several constituencies under one roof, and their electoral house is even more crowded now that the guest rooms have been taken up by appalled independents and apostate former Republicans. And yet, in a historical irony, the once-fractious party is now more ideologically coherent than its GOP opponents.

 

 

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I will not “both sides” this argument: The Democrats are today a model of ideological consistency compared with the Republicans. To be sure, they have their own problems; younger Democrats in particular have demands, such as student-loan forgiveness and other uber-entitlements, that transcend right or left definitions. (Neither are they “socialist,” because even socialists put limits on state support, but that’s an argument for another day.) And the Israel-Hamas war has uncovered a nasty streak of anti-Semitism in some Democrats that is, and should be, repulsive to any American.

 

 

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The Republicans, meanwhile, have in the course of a decade sublimated from a solid party into a miasmic gas of partisan incoherence. As I wrote in the summer of 2022, when I tried to define why I still thought of myself as a conservative, the GOP is not identifiably “conservative” in any way that people like me ever understood that word. I was a Republican because I wanted a small, efficient government that believed in constitutional limits on its own power, a strong national defense, and the advancement of free markets. That party no longer exists.

 

 

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One reason I hate the way Americans obsess over professional sports is because it has long been the breeding ground for symbolic attachments. Yes, I know: The need to belong to a tribe is deeply rooted in the human psyche, and people are probably better off releasing those feelings at football games instead of searching for more violent arenas (or even national battlefields). But I have never been able to get past how people who loved an athlete 10 minutes ago will hate the same player if he changes teams.

Politics now looks more like sports than ever before. But even sports fans know that in the playoffs, sometimes you have to cheer for a team you don’t like.

 

Edited January 19 by Spaceman Spiff

[@DCGoldPants]

5 minutes ago, Spaceman Spiff said:

This article is on The Atlantic but it popped up on my Apple News app.  Not sure how to link directly to it.

 

It's entitled "The Age of Incoherent Partisanship" by Tom Nichols.

 

Some highlights:

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

https://www.theatlantic.com/newsletters/archive/2024/01/the-age-of-incoherent-partisanship/677188/

 

[hail2skins]

The Nichols article made me think of an excerpt from the Allahpundit article I posted in the election thread about how the media needs to step up its reporting on Trump's deranged social media posts:

 

Earlier this week, David Frum asked a question at The Atlantic that’s been on my mind every day for, oh, about eight years now.

What kind of people are Americans, anyway? Trump has made clear, without illusions, that his ballot issue in 2024 is to rehabilitate and ratify his attempt to overturn the election of 2020. He is running to protect himself from the legal consequences of that attempt. But even more fundamentally, he is running to justify himself for attempting it. In 2016, Trump opponents warned that he might refuse to leave office if defeated. In 2024, Trump himself is arguing that he was right to refuse to leave office when defeated, and he is asking Americans to approve his refusal.

If he should return to the presidency in 2025, we have no reason to expect him to leave in 2029. So maybe the issue on the ballot in 2024 is not a choice at all, but a much more open-ended question. We know who Biden is. We know who Trump is. Who are we?

It matters enormously who wins the election, of course. But even in the best-case scenario, the candidate of “infinite crimes” will come very close to winning and will claim the support of a near-majority of voters. I don’t know how anyone can have the same respect for this country that they had 10 years ago having seen now what half the population will tolerate or condone.

[Cooked Crack]

 

[@DCGoldPants]

17 minutes ago, Cooked Crack said:

 

 

Not surprising at all.

[Fergasun]

Why aren't these pundits like: "According my punditry, we should have a third party right now?"  Or at least talking about a viable third party!

 

"WHO CARES HOW BAD TRUMP IS AS LONG AS I GET MY TAX CUTS" - wealthy right wing donors... but let's not talk about them

[LadySkinsFan]

I received my monthly newsletter from my insurrectionist Congressperson John Carter TX-31. Of course he supports impeachment for the Mayorkas, amicus brief to the supremes not allowing Colorado from keeping TFG on the ballot, supports Texas officials blocking government employees from going to the Texas border to help immigrants, and other Fascist policies. At the end there's a survey question about agree/disagree with Colorado's ruling to keep TFG off the ballot. Of course I voted agree. 

[Cooked Crack]

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Police cleared the ousted chair of the Florida Republican Party of rape allegations on Friday, but said they have asked prosecutors to charge him with illegally video recording the sexual encounter he had with a female acquaintance. 

 

The Sarasota Police Department said in a statement that a review of a cellphone video Christian Ziegler made of the Oct. 2 encounter showed that it was “likely consensual,” making it impossible to charge him with rape. However, police said the woman told investigators that she never consented to be video recorded and was unaware it had occurred.

 

[Cooked Crack]

 

[88Comrade2000]

 

[Califan007 The Constipated]

 

We're doomed lol 😐

 

 

 

 

[Cooked Crack]

 

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[LadySkinsFan]

Of course the money was for the abortion. We all know it. Walking it back makes you look weak, mister.

[China]

On 1/18/2024 at 12:38 AM, China said:

 

And the saga continues...

 

Debt-ridden Michigan GOP seeks to sell headquarters to pay $500K loan currently in default

 

The Michigan Republican Party is struggling to stay afloat after failing to pay interest on a loan from Comerica Bank for more than 120 days. Now, the party is contemplating the sale of its headquarters in order to pay off some of its mounting debt.

 

According to nonprofit online news outlet Bridge Michigan, the Michigan GOP has been in default on a loan of more than $500,000 since December 12. Since then, the loan has accumulated more than $10,000 in interest and nearly $1,000 in late fees.

 

"The MRP has not responded to the Demand Letter and, as of the date of this Motion, has been in default for over 120 days," Comerica Bank wrote in a filing to Ingham County Circuit Court.

 

In response, Michigan Republican Party chair Kristina Karamo has launched a lawsuit on behalf of the party against both Comerica Bank and the Michigan Republican Party Trust — an entity made up of former state Republican Party chairs that manages the Michigan GOP headquarters building in Lansing — in an effort to regain control of the building and sell it to pay off debt. This all comes as the Mitten State is set to hold its presidential primary in late February.

 

Click on the link for the full article

 

 

Lawsuit seeks to have Karamo officially declared removed as Michigan GOP chairwoman

 

The recently installed chair of Michigan’s Republican Party and others in the state GOP are suing to get the group’s former leader, Kristina Karamo, officially declared as being removed from the post.

 

Malinda Pego, Michigan GOP administrative vice chair Ali Hossein and party coalitions vice chair Hassan Nehme are among plaintiffs in the lawsuit filed Friday in Kent County Circuit Court in Grand Rapids.

 

The lawsuit alleges breach of contract.

 

A group of Michigan Republican state committee members voted Jan. 6 to remove Karamo, an election denier and supporter of former President Donald Trump. Many of the party’s leaders had called for her resignation following a year of leadership plagued by debt and infighting.

 

About 45 people, not including proxies, attended the meeting in Commerce Township where Karamo was voted out as chair. Nearly 89% of those present voted to remove her, Bree Moeggenberg, District 2 state committeewoman, said following the meeting.

 

Pego had been Karamo’s co-chair. Pego is serving as acting chair until another election for chair is held.

 

Karamo was elected about a year ago. She did not attend the Jan. 6 meeting and has made it clear she will not recognize the vote, claiming the meeting was not official and had been illegally organized. Karamo held her own meeting on Jan. 13.

 

The Associated Press left an email seeking comment Saturday from Karamo.

 

The lawsuit says the Jan. 13 meeting was illegal and improper.

 

Click on the link for the full article

[Larry]

So am I correctly getting the irony that the Michigan GOP intentionally appointed an election denier as their Chair. And said Chair is now denying the legitimacy of the election she lost?  

[dfitzo53]

That's not irony, that's what should've been expected. 

[China]

2 hours ago, dfitzo53 said:

That's not irony, that's what should've been expected. 

 

It's like rain on your wedding day.

[Cooked Crack]

 

[LadySkinsFan]

Those monster viruses are created by the Fascist government of China. One of Trump's good buddies.