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8 hours ago, CousinsCowgirl84 said:

 

As an aside, I didn’t know alchohol was the gateway drug to cocaine, but it makes sense.

 

Alcohol is by far the #1 gateway drug in America.

 

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Withdrawal from it once addicted is also more deadly than heroin. Yet it's readily available for consumption. 

 

https://www.addictioncenter.com/community/why-alcohol-is-the-deadliest-drug/

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11 hours ago, CousinsCowgirl84 said:

 

Probably true but we were talking about the black chicks from fox... 

 

 

My point exactly.

 

Kids don’t vote. And there are plenty of role models besides your parents. Many a catholic school child grows up an atheist.

Role models like the president and knuckleheads on TV.

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16 hours ago, CousinsCowgirl84 said:

 

 

Thats essentially the role of a politician.  If you don’t win no one cares how much integrity you have. If you do win, no one cares how much integrity you have unless it can get them votes or cost them votes.  That’s quintessential American democracy.

 

Which is still better than most other forms of governance.

 

 

this is the role in a country populated by people with a perverted and careless group of values.

To sum up, in your mind, the role of the politician is to lie and exploit to get a vote any way they can.

Absolutely no demand of integrity, no expectation of honesty. After they get your vote and win, "no one cares how much integrity you have".

 

Newsflash,, lots of people care whether they have integrity..   unfortunately, there is a large group of people like you who don't and continue to enable them even though it is clear what they are doing.

 

No wonder your "leaders"  have no respect for your intelligence. You haven't got the moral center to call them on their ****, and in fact, as you just said, you expect them to lie and cheat to secure your support... and what's more, to ignore you and not bother with integrity because they've already won, and now 'no one cares'.

 

Such a disappointment that any American would ever think like that. It's ****ing disgusting. Spineless. Ridiculous. Irresponsible. Ignorant. 

 

Par for the ****ing course.


~Bang

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13 hours ago, clietas said:

 

What about adults who watch this garbage and don't know better?

 

luckily they are usually too dumb to make their social media private. So, it's easy enough to not hire them when looking for potential employees and contractors. Last thing a lot of us need is to find out our employee is posting on a website that has chants about Jews not replacing them.

 

If they want to vote against their own well-being. Their own healthcare. Their own real economic benefits. Their own clean water. Their own good schools. So be it. 

 

Can't worry about the entire 330M population of the US. Only enough bandwidth to worry about those who aren't wishing I was dead.

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55 minutes ago, Bang said:

 

this is the role in a country populated by people with a perverted and careless group of values.

To sum up, in your mind, the role of the politician is to lie and exploit to get a vote any way they can.

Absolutely no demand of integrity, no expectation of honesty. After they get your vote and win, "no one cares how much integrity you have".

 

Look at current events, look past events, and tell me this isn’t the case?  The role of a politician is to win. Period. A politician that loses is a waiter at a restaurant, not a politician.  But a politician still has to give at least an air of morality.

 

 

You still got to be careful because if you do some real crazy **** at some point you are going to lose because too many people will be over you, the politicians on your side can’t stand with you, and you lose. Or you get shot. The role of a politician is to win.

 

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Newsflash,, lots of people care whether they have integrity..

 

As in, i’m a democrat because only democrats have integrity, or, i’m a republican because democrats are baby killers with no integrity. I agree with you.

 

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Par for the ****ing course.


~Bang

 

Indubitably.

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As Hiram Johnson, a progressive senator from California, noted more than a hundred years ago, the first casualty in war is truth. Feeling robbed by Mueller of the grounds with which to wage war against President Trump, the Democrats have been reduced to calling Barr a liar and to characterizing him as a chicken. What does falling apart look like? Fear and desperation have usually led us down the bumpiest roads in our history. Maybe it is time for everyone to buckle their seat belts.

 

 

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1 hour ago, twa said:

 

 

 

That’s an adorable new narrative being pushed by hard right wingers that have shown they don’t give a **** about America. 

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7 hours ago, CousinsCowgirl84 said:

 

Look at current events, look past events, and tell me this isn’t the case?  The role of a politician is to win. Period. A politician that loses is a waiter at a restaurant, not a politician.  But a politician still has to give at least an air of morality.

 

 

You still got to be careful because if you do some real crazy **** at some point you are going to lose because too many people will be over you, the politicians on your side can’t stand with you, and you lose. Or you get shot. The role of a politician is to win.

 

 

As in, i’m a democrat because only democrats have integrity, or, i’m a republican because democrats are baby killers with no integrity. I agree with you.

 

 

Indubitably.

 

I'm neither a republican or a democrat. i used to be a member of one, can you guess which?

Your views lack integrtity, not because of who your team is, but because YOUR values lack integrity. The constant refrain of left vs right has nothing to do with personal integrity.. has nothing o do with the values you believe.
YOU. As in "PERSONAL RESPONSIBILITY". Your integrity is the one who sits here and says it's smart for a criminal to continue to wreck our country through the constant lies and obstructions. YOUR integrity is the one that says a politician's job is to get elected and how is secondary, because his job is to be a politician. That is the lack of integrity that has me speaking to you personally. ( Although you are certainly not alone in this that has caused to us stoop so low. )
Only you are responsible for your views. The "right / left" is a convenient blanket to hide under and not have to face that fact.

The differences between how a politician IS and how they should BE flies right over your head, because you think that how they behave is how they SHOULD. One reason i left the only party i ever belonged to was their complete lack of ability to demand BETTER than what they complain so loudly about. There is no desire to be better. only to BE, scorch the earth behind and hold power.

Your opening paragraph above is nothing but an excuse for this reprehensible behavior. A politician is a PUBLIC SERVANT. To do OUR BIDDING and be OUR VOICE. In our system, a politician is not meant o be a career position to lie and abuse. it is a position of representation, to be held by those among us as a SERVICE, a sacred DUTY.
If they can't do that with integrity then they SHOULD be a ****ing waiter. How the hell you can't see that is well beyond me, but then again so it is for everyone left still defending them. A sucker, a fool, and a servile little thrall that absolutely has no desire for integrity.

Instead these suckers, these people with ridiculous values and absent integrity keep voting for them, and then endlessly defending their crooked actions.

 

But, i guess it's nice to know that you realize that 'doing some real crazy ****' might cost one of these sacks of garbage a vote or two...  But it should be noted that for you and roughly a 3rd of our incredibly ignorant nation,  selling out your country, defending a criminal administration, and moving the nation directly towards authoritarianism and / or dictatorship doesn't qualify as "crazy ****".

 

Ridiculous.

 

~Bang

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5 hours ago, Bang said:

 

I'm neither a republican or a democrat. i used to be a member of one, can you guess which?

 

I think me and you agree that’s irrelevant. 

 

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Your views lack integrtity, not because of who your team is, but because YOUR values lack integrity.
YOU. As in "PERSONAL RESPONSIBILITY". Your integrity is the one who sits here and says it's smart for a criminal to continue to wreck our country through the constant lies and obstructions. YOUR integrity is the one that says a politician's job is to get elected and how is secondary, because his job is to be a politician.

 

Fair enough. Integrity is an opinion. My integrity deals with the way things are.. Yours is based on ideals and fantasy... Aspiration.  I agree we have different morals.

 

 

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The differences between how a politician IS and how they should BE flies right over your head, because you think that how they behave is how they SHOULD.

 

Is a politician that loses a politician?

 

 

Trump should be impeached because the mueller report makes it pretty clear that he obstructed justice. But he won’t be, because democrats are too afraid it will cost them votes. That proves my reasoning is on point more than anything.

 

Rediculous? Indeed...

 

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If Fox News and Right-wing "media" outlets were around during Nixon at the level they are now, he likely is never impeached.  Back then it happened because it was the right thing to do, as it is today. The difference is that you have a media machine that creates the alternative reality of which Trump supporters exist in.  Liberals are sometimes confined to their own bubble as well, but that tends to be more on specific social issues rather than an actual alternative reality when it comes to verified factual information. (But again, not always). 

 

Hell, to take it a step further, if the GOP leaders followed through in 2019 with how they thought of Trump in 2016? He'd have been gone a long time ago.  

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47 minutes ago, NoCalMike said:

If Fox News and Right-wing "media" outlets were around during Nixon at the level they are now, he likely is never impeached. 

 

Just pointing out, Nixon had a Dem House and Senate.  

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48 minutes ago, visionary said:

 

 

Is an attorney actually asking why he's going to jail?  

 

I'm pretty sure that the judge told him which law he was convicted of.  (And it wasn't "sleeping with a porn star".)

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51 minutes ago, visionary said:

 

 

 

Contempt for not providing what he cannot provide by law? :ols:

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