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It'd be on the cheap & IF he stayed in good shape. 

 

Cutting Perry would get the Cap to about 15 under though they could just cut Paea this year & take the hit just to get him off the books for next year.

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I feel like the coaches picked Golston to be the old head in the DT room with losing Knighton. That said, Golston literally did nothing last year. Knighton didn't dominate games last season or show any consistency, but he had flash plays of being the wrecking ball in the middle we expected.  

Hood is a keeper at DE

between Ionidas and Golston, I'd cut Ionidas and put him on practice squad. He's basically shown that he can be a good blocking sled all preseason.

 

The redskins may not employ a classic 3-4 NT in their base defense, but in short yardage situations I feel like they desperately need someone who can plug the middle. They also did make a push for him as the patriots lured him away, so I do feel like he would fit scheme wise if the pats cut him loose.

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4 hours ago, Koolblue13 said:

Sure, do we cut Golston, who was better than him last year or ionidias who we just drafted? Maybe Hood who's looked pretty good so far?

 

Golston was not better than him last year.

Fair point to make though.  Golston plays on teams.

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It seems to me he was a liability because of his health. Teams see him on the field, they go no huddle, he gets gassed by second down and we watch the opposing offense go down the field. Maybe getting cut from New England will be a wake up call for him to get healthier. It didn't work when Denver let him go, and we let him go, but hey, maybe third times the charm.

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24 minutes ago, ConnSKINS26 said:

I thought we showed basically no interest in keeping Pot Roast, not even matching whatever the Pats offered?

 

We offered him fair money for what he was... a player that's basically going to play 20-30% of the snaps.  But he's an absolute ANIMAL in those 20-30%.

I'd take him in a second at that price.  That immediately stop gaps the d-line for another year.

18 minutes ago, Koolblue13 said:

Generic "Former Redskin" Thread

 

 

Yeah, no idea why I started a roster thread. :ols:

Two FAs with their own threads.

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Just now, DC9 said:

 

We offered him fair money for what he was... a player that's basically going to play 20-30% of the snaps.  But he's an absolute ANIMAL in those 20-30%.

I'd take him in a second at that price.  That immediately stop gaps the d-line for another year.

 

Yeah, no idea why I started a roster thread. :ols:

Two FAs with their own threads.

I was trying to link the ATL forum, but dont know how.:806:

And Golston was better on goal line stops, which I'm pretty sure you actually pointed out to me.

Again, who's spot does he take? Especially now that we might be down a second pass rusher.

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53 minutes ago, DC9 said:

 

We offered him fair money for what he was... a player that's basically going to play 20-30% of the snaps.  But he's an absolute ANIMAL in those 20-30%.

I'd take him in a second at that price.  That immediately stop gaps the d-line for another year.

 

 

Knighton was part of a Dline in 2015 that no one besides Chris Baker played well on.  During the off season, McCloughan didn't try very hard to retain Knighton.  So, why would McCloughan be interested in him now?  Golston is no stud, but at least he is a high-effort guy.  And, that's more than I can say about Knighton.  Do you not think it is a strike against Knighton when he has now been found wanting by 3 teams (Denver, Wash, NE) in 3 years?

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30 minutes ago, HanburgerBum said:

Knighton was part of a Dline in 2015 that no one besides Chris Baker played well on.  During the off season, McCloughan didn't try very hard to retain Knighton.  So, why would McCloughan be interested in him now?  Golston is no stud, but at least he is a high-effort guy.  And, that's more than I can say about Knighton.  Do you not think it is a strike against Knighton when he has now been found wanting by 3 teams (Denver, Wash, NE) in 3 years?

 

Two Super Bowl contenders and a division champ?  Not a bad group is it?

We didn't try that hard to get him back because he wanted a pay day.  Which is why I prefaced taking him back with the amount of money he is worth. 

 

1 hour ago, Koolblue13 said:

I was trying to link the ATL forum, but dont know how.:806:

And Golston was better on goal line stops, which I'm pretty sure you actually pointed out to me.

Again, who's spot does he take? Especially now that we might be down a second pass rusher.

 

I don't remember that, :ols:, but what I probably said is that Golston was free more because Knighton had two dudes on him.  Or more.  Or I could've said that Golston was drafted to be a 4-3 DT so maybe the one gap suits him more, but he still got tossed around.

He's not a difference maker, but he's a space/block eater who at this point in his career is a specialist.  Just like a deep ball guy, he's a short yardage guy.  Not sure there's even room on the roster for someone like that but I would find it if I was Scot.

I categorize D-lineman into three groups:

- Penetrators: Dudes who, more often than not, are beating there o-lineman or are getting into their gap and shooting it (Baker)

- Ground holders:  Guys who don't necessarily get push into the backfield, but they also don't get pushed back (Knighton)

- Dudes on skates: Guys who most of the time get pushed wherever the o-line wants them to go (Golston - aka Highway 64)

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If Knighton becomes available, I hope the Skins give serious consideration to picking him up.  I think he'd be willing to come back, just to prove a point.

Supposedly he's in  better shape, with no headaches issues.   ...And he did fit in well with the Skins D personnel last year..  My sense is that Knighton simply isn't a good fit with the 2-gap scheme that the Patriots are using --and he wouldn't have that problem with Barry's & Akey's 1-gap schemes.

I'd like to avoid debating on how good or bad Golston is -- rather, I'd simply ask who would fill his role if Kedric got injured?  M-a-y-b-e Ziggy Hood might be able to step in, but not Ioannidis at this point in time (it appears he's still getting used to the level of the NFL game).  Even with their hybrid 3-4 schemes, it would help the Skins to possess a wide-body run-stopping solution .... especially if they have plans to use schemes with Cravens as hybrid linebacker.

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5 minutes ago, Wyvern said:

I'd like to avoid debating on how good or bad Golston is -- rather, I'd simply ask who would fill his role if Golston got injured?  M-a-y-b-e Ziggy Hood might be able to step in, but not Ionnidis at this point in time(he's still getting used to the NFL game).  Even with their hybrid 3-4 schemes, it would help the Skins to possess a wide-body run-stopping solution .... especially if they have plans to use schemes with Cravens as hybrid linebacker.

 

 

You'd need someone to block on the field goal team and you'd need someone to get pushed back 3-4 yards by the center on first and second down... who can occasionally get home for a sack.  Take your pick.

I think his work ethic/maturity is what has kept him on this team.  Great man off the field, but let's not pretend he's irreplacible at all.

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1 hour ago, DC9 said:

 

Two Super Bowl contenders and a division champ?  Not a bad group is it?

We didn't try that hard to get him back because he wanted a pay day.  Which is why I prefaced taking him back with the amount of money he is worth. 

 

 

 

 

Just because the team is good doesn't necessarily mean the team has a good Dline.  In fact, the Redskins in 2015 had a lousy Dline--of which Knighton was a part.  I think the fact that McCloughan made such a tepid effort to keep him here speaks volume about Pot Roast at this point of his career.  I don't want a Dlineman around who will remind me of Fat (and I do mean fat!) Albert.

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3 minutes ago, HanburgerBum said:

Just because the team is good doesn't necessarily mean the team has a good Dline.  In fact, the Redskins in 2015 had a lousy Dline--of which Knighton was a part.  I think the fact that McCloughan made such a tepid effort to keep him here speaks volume about Pot Roast at this point of his career.  I don't want a Dlineman around who will remind me of Fat (and I do mean fat!) Albert.

 

Well, I'm not sure that you can compare anyone to fat albert.  But if that's where you're mind is with Knighton have at it lol.

He's a two down player.  That's it.  And we don't win the division without him last year.  Simple as that.

EDIT:  Don't get me wrong, I'm not saying he is a MUST sign, but he'll help and if I'm Scot and it's the right price, I'm signing him.  I don't know why this fan base is so militant about players and look at everything in a vacuum. 

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