HBnotBlades Posted December 6, 2012 Share Posted December 6, 2012 Lot's of exciting things happening in the hockey world this morning (technically it was last night). Everything should be taken with a huge grain of salt, but it's certainly better than all the other news we've been hearing. Iain MacIntyre @imacVanSun Sportsnet's Nick Kypreos says some coaches are calling players to tell them to be ready for imminent return. #CBA Kevin DeLury @TheNYRBlog Source telling me NHL podium in hotel is for press conference tomorrow announcing CBA agreement. Steve Burton @WBZSteveBurton #CBA negotiations are strenous, but are closer and closer. Fans will have NHL hockey by Christmas, very likely games on Christmas day. Matthew Barnaby @MattBarnaby3636 Just got a text from owners side that his guess is season starts on dec 26th. Bob McKenzieVerified @TSNBobMcKenzie IF I were going to read into anything, I'd be more likely to focus on fact that flow of info/details from room is shut down tight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EBoz Posted December 6, 2012 Share Posted December 6, 2012 Looks like an agreement is close and this is great news. I'm really missing the hockey as I'm not an NBA fan at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HBnotBlades Posted December 6, 2012 Share Posted December 6, 2012 I may have posted those a bit early. After reading some more I found articles like this http://thestar.blogs.com/thespin/2012/12/into-the-wee-hours.html NEW YORK--The conversation went something like this."Let's leave," said Boston Bruins owner Jeremy Jacobs, turning to NHL deputy commissioner Bill Daly. "It's up to you," replied Daly. At that point during the talks between the NHL and NHL Players Association on Wednesday, a day that began as a continuation of the momentum generated on Tuesday, both sides were at the precipice, and the 2012-13 season was in jeopardy. Earlier, Buffalo Sabres goalie Ryan Miller had angrily vented when the owners said they were disappointed with the players responses to an earlier offer and threatened to pull everything off the table. But with Jacobs poised to abandon the talks, other owners spoke up, and then both sides dramatically backed away from the precipice. When talks ended close to 1 a.m. Thursday morning after more than eight hours of talks without NHL commissioner Gary Bettman and union executive director Don Fehr, it certainly seemed from the outside they were getting closer and closer to a deal to end this ugly lockout. Now there's word that the players want the talks to be open today, aka Fehr and Bettman will be back in the room. I realize that a final deal can't be made without those guys around, but I don't think their at that stage yet. For the players, the current deal sounds pretty fair. It's a 10 year CBA, the owners up'd their make whole provision offer to $300M, added in $50M worth of pension money, are not changing the UFA or arbitration rules, contracts can only vary by 5% year to year, but there's a 5 years limit on contract length (7 if you sign with your own team). If I'm a player, that's pretty close to when I've been looking for. Maybe try to get the 5 year contract limit up to 6, but otherwise that looks pretty good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pjfootballer Posted December 6, 2012 Share Posted December 6, 2012 Looks like an agreement is close and this is great news. I'm really missing the hockey as I'm not an NBA fan at all. Me too. Gave up on the NBA about 4 years ago when the Wiz kept sucking and the Caps were stomping people. But I've been a fan of both teams for a long time, so don't get me wrong. I'm not a bandwagon Caps fan since I've been watching them the year they traded for Rod Langway. But Hockey has always been my second favorite sport behind football. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BRAVEONTHEWARPATH93 Posted December 6, 2012 Share Posted December 6, 2012 you guys should temper the enthusiasm...**** is not looking too good now Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ixcuincle Posted December 6, 2012 Author Share Posted December 6, 2012 Because Fehr and Bettman got re-involved **** those idiots ---------- Post added December-6th-2012 at 06:59 PM ---------- Lot of positivity now that Fehr made his conference and announced what are allegedly huge gains in the process in terms of the financial aspects of the NHL We get closer and closer to the return of Capitals hockey Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ixcuincle Posted December 7, 2012 Author Share Posted December 7, 2012 I am sad to report that the NHL has denied the NHLPA's demands and Fehr says there is "no resolution soon" I am disappointed So much progress was made, but the process is so fragile and any gust like that can just damage hope Just...just stunned here ---------- Post added December-6th-2012 at 07:22 PM ---------- Jonas Siegel @jonasTSN1050 Fehr: It looks like this is not going to be resolved in the immediate future. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pick6 Posted December 7, 2012 Share Posted December 7, 2012 Donald Fehr is a piss of ****. The minute he in walked into the room the deal was ****ed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popeman38 Posted December 7, 2012 Share Posted December 7, 2012 Donald Fehr is a ****nut. The longer this goes, the more he makes. This is what he lives for. Ask MLB. The owners are *******s, but the players caused this 2 years ago when they hired Donald Fehr. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skinsdomination09 Posted December 7, 2012 Share Posted December 7, 2012 Truth is, while not meaning to insult anybody, if you believe Bettman is the wolf then you are a disillusioned idiot. Sorry but it's true. Fehr is all PR no substance. Manipulative POS. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HBnotBlades Posted December 7, 2012 Share Posted December 7, 2012 Good to see both sides taking the completely irrational "burn it all down" approach. That always goes well. Pierre LeBrun has a pretty good summary with an appropriate title: http://espn.go.com/blog/nhl/post/_/id/20628/you-have-got-to-be-kidding-me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BRAVEONTHEWARPATH93 Posted December 7, 2012 Share Posted December 7, 2012 Truth is, while not meaning to insult anybody, if you believe Bettman is the wolf then you are a disillusioned idiot. Sorry but it's true.Fehr is all PR no substance. Manipulative POS. this... it's on him **** that prick Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pjfootballer Posted December 7, 2012 Share Posted December 7, 2012 I was reading about it and the one thing that gets to me is one of the issues. Length of contract. The Owners want a 5 year max for free agents and 7 for re-signing your own players. But the players don't like the 5 year max for free agents. But then, they piss and moan about not being able to become free agents until late in their career. You can't have both. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BRAVEONTHEWARPATH93 Posted December 7, 2012 Share Posted December 7, 2012 The season is ******... Hopefully, RGIII gets us in the playoffs and maybe uses his magic on John Wall's knee Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bch89 Posted December 7, 2012 Share Posted December 7, 2012 Being at the Hershey game last night made me miss hockey more than I thought Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redskin4ever Posted December 8, 2012 Share Posted December 8, 2012 Donald Fehr is a ****nut. The longer this goes, the more he makes. This is what he lives for. Ask MLB. The owners are *******s, but the players caused this 2 years ago when they hired Donald Fehr. You are correct. As soon as I heard Fehr was named to head the union, I knew there would be labor problems. He made a bunch of money ruining baseball, he can make money by ruining hockey too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ixcuincle Posted January 5, 2013 Author Share Posted January 5, 2013 Things are looking very good, and it looks like there will be a settlement very very soon. I know I've said this before only to have things collapse, but there's been a lot of progression over the last couple of days and there is a real sense of optimism. There isn't the gloom of fragile negotiations that hovered over last time. Both sides realize if they fail now, the season's off. They understand what is at stake. ---------- Post added January-5th-2013 at 03:41 PM ---------- http://twitter.com/DarrenDreger/statuses/287623974777659392 Well, if its a close as we're sensing it could be a very "good day" according to source. ---------- Post added January-5th-2013 at 03:55 PM ---------- Like the fiscal cliff deal, this is probably something that gets resolved at the final minute Both sides have come too far to go back now And last time Bettman was unwavering in "Accept the proposal we offered earlier, or else". Now, there is discussion. There is banter between the sides as they actually negotiate what looks to be a deal Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RonArtest15 Posted January 5, 2013 Share Posted January 5, 2013 Jeff O'Neill @odognine2BREAKING- #NHLLOCKOUT is over. Camp opens Jan 12. 50 game season. #lockout Not sure if Jeff O'Neill is trolling or serious... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ixcuincle Posted January 5, 2013 Author Share Posted January 5, 2013 It's not over and he may be trolling It's really close to ending though but it's not over yet Could end any minute now Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Springfield Posted January 5, 2013 Share Posted January 5, 2013 For some reason I believe it will happen this time. I believe that we'll actually have an NHL season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OU_skins Posted January 6, 2013 Share Posted January 6, 2013 IF the lockout ends, are all of the players pretty much guaranteed to return from wherever it is that they are playing? Didn't some NBA player sign a contract that he couldn't get out of in China during their lockout? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Springfield Posted January 6, 2013 Share Posted January 6, 2013 I know that the KHL requires their players to honor their NHL contracts. It's a move that is good for us now but could come back to bite us if the KHL ever gains traction. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ixcuincle Posted January 6, 2013 Author Share Posted January 6, 2013 And Ovechkin is currently playing in the KHL. So the Capitals without him would be pretty weird. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BRAVEONTHEWARPATH93 Posted January 6, 2013 Share Posted January 6, 2013 Lots of optimism tonight that end is in sight. Everyone stay cautiously optimistic until we are 100% in the clear Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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