Dan T. Posted September 29, 2011 Share Posted September 29, 2011 Forget the late 70s Rod Stewart.At heart, Stewart is a bluesman and definitely belongs in the Hall. I try to forget. And yes he deserves to be in the Hall. For me, Every Picture Tells a Story might be one of the 10 or 15 best rock albums of all time. Which makes the disco shlock he did just a few years later seem that much more egregious to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Predicto Posted September 29, 2011 Share Posted September 29, 2011 Let me first say Bob Seger is in the Hall of Fame and Kiss is not. Well if that is the standard, then we can look for the induction of Vanilla Ice, Milli Vanilli, Jimmy Osmond, Rebecca Black and the Banana Splits as the class of 2015. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan T. Posted September 29, 2011 Share Posted September 29, 2011 Disco was fun and stupid. The seething hatred toward it by "rock purists" was even funnier and stupider. I am far from a rock purist, and my feelings toward disco never reached the point of "seething hatred." It was more of a bemused disdain at friends and others who jumped feet first into the style, going to Bachelor's III every Friday and Saturday and doing the Hustle in those stupid ass outfits. The Rod Stewart disco crap really pissed me off though. When you listen to Glad Bags and Hand Rags, Gasoline Alley, Man of Constant Sorrow, Cut Across Shorty, Reason to Believe, etc. over and over again growing up... maybe it is stupid, but I felt a little betrayed when Blondes Have More Fun came out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lombardi's_kid_brother Posted September 29, 2011 Share Posted September 29, 2011 I say "Some Girls" by the Stones justifies discos existence. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G.A.C.O.L.B. Posted September 29, 2011 Share Posted September 29, 2011 Rakim alone makes then a top 10 influential hip-hop group but okay. Definitely. My whole life growing up, the vast consensus was that Rakim was the greatest who ever did it. I'm like China though. I'm confused by how hip hop works into the Rock and Roll HOF. I don't follow it at all, so maybe this has been going on for years now or something. I don't know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sticksboi05 Posted September 29, 2011 Share Posted September 29, 2011 Definitely. My whole life growing up, the vast consensus was that Rakim was the greatest who ever did it.I'm like China though. I'm confused by how hip hop works into the Rock and Roll HOF. I don't follow it at all, so maybe this has been going on for years now or something. I don't know. I don't get it either but what the hell. ---------- Post added September-29th-2011 at 02:07 PM ---------- I say "Some Girls" by the Stones justifies discos existence. Great record. You have to appreciate the Stones ability to pump out fantastic records so far apart. Aftermath all the way to Some Girls and Tattoo You. Beatles did it within a 9 year time span, and really five if you count Rubber Soul as the start of their truly groundbreaking stuff. Zeppelin's great stuff came between 69-75. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matty dread Posted September 29, 2011 Share Posted September 29, 2011 I'm not really a fan but it does puzzle me as to why Rush isn't in there. By the way the actual R&R Hall sucks. Went there when I was in Canton for Green & Monk's HOF induction and we blew through the R&R HOF in about an hour. Not sure I'd even bother going back if I had the chance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lombardi's_kid_brother Posted September 29, 2011 Share Posted September 29, 2011 I don't get it either but what the hell.---------- Post added September-29th-2011 at 02:07 PM ---------- Great record. You have to appreciate the Stones ability to pump out fantastic records so far apart. Aftermath all the way to Some Girls and Tattoo You. Beatles did it within a 9 year time span, and really five if you count Rubber Soul as the start of their truly groundbreaking stuff. Zeppelin's great stuff came between 69-75. Tattoo You was more or less recorded in the early 70s. Some Girls was the last classic Stones recording session, I would say. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pjfootballer Posted September 29, 2011 Share Posted September 29, 2011 No RUSH. No KISS.= No credibility Exactly. Beat me to it. Eff the R&R HOF! ---------- Post added September-29th-2011 at 02:53 PM ---------- I would be okay with Kiss before Rush. I hate Rush as much as you hate Seger. You should be flogged. I know some people don't like Geddy Lee's voice and it's an acquired taste, but go beyond the voice and concentrate on the music. The have not only survived for 30 years, but have thrived. They've conformed to every decade with their music. They have some of the best lyrics, some of the best instrumental songs and of course the best drummer in the business. Catch their latest documentary on VH1 if it comes on, it might give you some insight on them. But then again, you might just hate them because of Lee. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan T. Posted September 29, 2011 Share Posted September 29, 2011 By the way the actual R&R Hall sucks. Went there when I was in Canton for Green & Monk's HOF induction and we blew through the R&R HOF in about an hour. Not sure I'd even bother going back if I had the chance. Totally disagree. And given that you only spent one hour there doesn't support your conclusion - and in fact may explain your conclusion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lombardi's_kid_brother Posted September 29, 2011 Share Posted September 29, 2011 Exactly. Beat me to it. Eff the R&R HOF!---------- Post added September-29th-2011 at 02:53 PM ---------- You should be flogged. I know some people don't like Geddy Lee's voice and it's an acquired taste, but go beyond the voice and concentrate on the music. The have not only survived for 30 years, but have thrived. They've conformed to every decade with their music. They have some of the best lyrics, some of the best instrumental songs and of course the best drummer in the business. Catch their latest documentary on VH1 if it comes on, it might give you some insight on them. But then again, you might just hate them because of Lee. I don't like Lee's voice. I don't like the self-indulgent music. I don't like the lyrics. I really don't like their audio-visual club member fans. The only thing I've ever liked about Rush was the use of Tom Sawyer as entrance music for the Von Erich family. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LApunkrocker72 Posted September 29, 2011 Share Posted September 29, 2011 Devo, X, Bad Religion, Black Flag, Buzz****s, Dead Kennedys and Social Distortion should all be in the Rock 'n' Roll Hall of Fame. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Wiggles Posted September 29, 2011 Share Posted September 29, 2011 Beastie Boys, Donovan, Guns 'N Roses, Heart, Red Hot Chili Peppers, War. And if there's time maybe Donna Summer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jumbo Posted September 29, 2011 Share Posted September 29, 2011 R & R HOF is approaching the Pro Bowl in relevance. It's more about making some dough on a regular basis then only adding truly worthy candidates meeting the highest standards of the genre. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MintHillSkinsFan Posted September 29, 2011 Share Posted September 29, 2011 RnR HOF is such a misnomer. Madonna. Nuff said. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan T. Posted September 29, 2011 Share Posted September 29, 2011 It's more of a popular music hall of fame than anything else. Which is okay by me... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Predicto Posted September 30, 2011 Share Posted September 30, 2011 RnR HOF is such a misnomer. Madonna. Nuff said. Madonna was fun, awesome, groundbreaking and made headlines for a long time. Any Hall of Fame that didn't include her would be a joke. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeesburgSkinFan Posted September 30, 2011 Author Share Posted September 30, 2011 KISS needs to be in simply because Gene Simmons epitomizes everything that IS big time arena rock business. He is to self-promotion, merchandising, and spectacle what Phil Spector was to studio production. I like very little of their actual music (although the stuff I do like, I like a lot) but on aura alone, they're HOF-worthy. I'd also put GNR in, though I'm not entirely sure why. I liked Appetite, didn't love it. I think that album was more impactful than influential, meaning as much as it shook things up, I don't think it necessarily changed things the way Nevermind did a short time later. Yet everything they did in a very short time just screamed "Big time, unforgettable, legendary rock & roll." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chachie Posted September 30, 2011 Share Posted September 30, 2011 No RUSH. No KISS.= No credibility Guns and Roses walking in before these two bands is a friggin' joke. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rocky21 Posted September 30, 2011 Share Posted September 30, 2011 Guns and Roses walking in before these two bands is a friggin' joke.Don't worry. They're not in, they've only been nominated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EBoz Posted September 30, 2011 Share Posted September 30, 2011 The R&R HOF is a joke. I see Kiss and Rush mentioned as snubs and rightfully so. There are many other bands/artists who deserve to be in as well IMO Stevie Ray Vaughn Deep Purple The Cars Cheap Trick Def Leppard Thin Lizzy Iron Maiden Judas Priest Jimmy Buffet The list goes on and on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matty dread Posted September 30, 2011 Share Posted September 30, 2011 Totally disagree. And given that you only spent one hour there doesn't support your conclusion - and in fact may explain your conclusion. I just thought it was overrated and not much to see. I'm a huge music fan so if it couldn't hold my interest that's saying something. Just my opinion on it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rocky21 Posted September 30, 2011 Share Posted September 30, 2011 The R&R HOF is a joke. I see Kiss and Rush mentioned as snubs and rightfully so. There are many other bands/artists who deserve to be in as well IMOStevie Ray Vaughn Deep Purple The Cars Cheap Trick Def Leppard Thin Lizzy Iron Maiden Judas Priest Jimmy Buffet The list goes on and on. There does seem to be an overall glossing over of some of the big metal bands like the ones you mention above. Stevie Wonder and Stevie Nicks but no Stevie Ray Vaughan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pjfootballer Posted September 30, 2011 Share Posted September 30, 2011 I don't like Lee's voice. I don't like the self-indulgent music. I don't like the lyrics. I really don't like their audio-visual club member fans.The only thing I've ever liked about Rush was the use of Tom Sawyer as entrance music for the Von Erich family. Why does everyone stereotype a typical Rush fan as an audio-visual club member? I've been a Rush fan since the early 80s and all the Rush fans I know are nowhere like that at all. I've never been in any AV club and I've never met a Rush fan or seen one at any concert that looked like Neil from Family Guy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Predicto Posted September 30, 2011 Share Posted September 30, 2011 Why does everyone stereotype a typical Rush fan as an audio-visual club member? I've been a Rush fan since the early 80s and all the Rush fans I know are nowhere like that at all. I've never been in any AV club and I've never met a Rush fan or seen one at any concert that looked like Neil from Family Guy. I like Rush ok. My problem is the ridiculous over-the-top knob-slobbering that hardcore Rush fans indulge in every time the subject comes up. No, Rush is not the greatest band in rock history. No, they are not in the top-20. No they are not particularly influential, no they are not especially groundbreaking. Peart is a very good drummer, but not the greatest of all time. Geddy is an awful excuse for a singer. They have about three memorable songs, and the rest is an enormous repotoire of endless pretentious repetive droning about Ayn Rand and satellites. I don't run to turn the radio channel when they pop up the way I do for Bob Seger, Billy Joel or REO Speedwagon, but I sure as hell don't put them anywhere NEAR the Beatles/Stones/Who/Zep/Floyd kind of pantheon, they way their fans do. :whoknows: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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