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UPDATE: Via Twitter(according to Stokely's agent) Stokely will not sign with Redskins

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REDPepper

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Well, old WRs have sadly fared a lot better than young WRs for us in the past.

When was the last time a WR under 25 years old did ANYTHING for us?

Malcolm Kelly, Devin Thomas, Brandon Lloyd...? PASS.

Moss was 26 his first season in Washington, and he was great. That's all we've had, other than production from TEs.

It's fair to say that this is the result of us not giving the younger WRs enough options to get on the field, but that's probably because they just weren't ready. But if you want to go ahead and blame our front office and coaching staff for our problems like always, then go ahead, there's no stopping you. You definitely know more about the talent of our WRs than the professional football brain trusts that see these guys play day in and day out.

Young WRs just don't do well in the NFL for the most part, except for the really good guys! Not just on the Redskins, but league wide. It's not easy to play at the NFL level. Getting our scrub young WRs that are leftover from years past more playing time so they can develop isn't going to turn them into good players. Be real. Our rookie WRs drafted this year weren't even among the best WRs in the draft. We have maybe 1 top 10 WR from this draft, and that's no sure thing. If they come to training camp and shock us and are incredibly talented then maybe we'll give them a shot from the get go. But it's up to those players first. They need to prove to our coaching staff that they have what it takes to make it in the NFL. Just because you're a rookie and more of an unknown quantity doesn't mean you get to bypass established veterans, even if they're over the hill and may not be here for the long term future. You earn your play in real NFL games. Clearly the guys we have on our roster like Banks and Austin hadn't done nearly enough to earn that yet.

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REDPepper

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That may very well be the case. But the way I see it, that will become clear very quickly in training camp and preseason. If he's a step slow or just can't compete at the NFL level anymore, then we'll cut him loose and we lose nothing. If he shows us he's still got it, then great, keep him on board. If a younger player steps up and shows they're ready for the big leagues, awesome, we'll give the younger guy his shot, and we can demote or cut Stokley if we want.

I'm not saying I expect Stokley to be great. I'm not saying I expect him to be what he once was. I'm not even saying I expect him to be good enough to make our squad. I'm no expert, none of us are, and as such, I simply do not actually know what kind of shape he's in and if he can compete at the NFL level still. But I trust that we had a good enough reason to sign him and give him a shot, and I trust that we can figure out if he's still got it in training camp. It's something worth looking into IMO, so I like the deal. Small cost, nothing to lose, plenty to gain.

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moondog

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Yes but good locker room vets are invaluable. Good vets and can be coaches too.

Coaches? That's what we have Keenan McCardell for. If Shanahan wants competition he already had it. With as many young and hungry receivers we had, they knew they weren't all going to make it. Most were drafted late or not at all or later than they should have been. Kelly hasn't done squat and would understandably be hungry as well. Armstrong - enough said, guy practiced in a parking lot. They don't need another damn thing to motivate them to compete. Why the hell do we need to bring in these guys? Even if Gaffney's the only one that sticks, I'd rather have Jarmon.

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Redskin Diehard

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Just because somebody get's signed that doesn't mean they're going to automatically make the team. This is Stokely's last hurrah. All management wants him to do is bring a sense of precision and professionalism to the field... Competition and precise practice habits are Shanny's thing. I think one of the things he's trying to do is bring the Clinton Portis ~ loosie goosie ~ southeast jerome era to an end once and for all...

HTTR!

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rookieskin

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The new offensive plan is to line Beck up behind Rabach and as soon as the ball is snapped, throw it in the general direction of our 9 receivers.

Odds are in favor of one of them making the catch, and who knows, without Brown, or Williams feet tripping him up, Casey might actually slow up the rush.

Rookieskin ain't going to bed smiling tonight. :(

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Wyvern

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I can't believe we signed ANOTHER wide receiver. We're going to clog up our roster with so many WRs, we're not going to have opportunities to find out who can really play the offensive line for us.

We have signed a group of re-tread WRs,to add to a few inexperienced rookies who need development, one 3rd year WR question-mark, and a former #1 WR who's probably now just a slot receiver, and a journeyman WR whose just had a great year.. Oh yes, and there's that gimmick WR/return specialist.

Quantity does not mean quality. And our QBs aren't going to have enough time to throw to these guys to see if they can actually make the catch.

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wildbill1952

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Dumb question here, but did the new CBA expand how many players a team can carry on the gameday roster and or practice squad? I can kinda make sense of the plethora of wr's we now have if so.
Not a dumb question. CBA did not expand 53 man roster or 45 man game day roster, just the camp roster. I don't remember reading anything about the practice squad numbers. Here's the dates on the cuts that show the numbers.

August 30 Clubs reduce rosters from 90 players to 75 players.

September 3 Clubs reduce rosters to 53 players.

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MumboSauce

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overreact much? same as willie parker and larry johnson. so what. zomg we didn't sign Asomugha , Sidney Rice, Santonio Holmes and Vince Young? what is this team doing? lmao I'm more concerned about actually having a QB that can get the ball to any of these receivers. You don't have to have great receivers, just good ones.

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Nomadskin11

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Seriously? What are you guys freaking out about?

I'd much rather have a bunch of experienced receivers in camp with our rookies so that they understand how to work right away.

How are we supposed to change our culture if there is no one but the rookies/youngun's themselves to challenge them/show them the ropes?

This is fantastic for the young guys.

In the end, these vet dudes are going to get cut and if they don't... well then we'll know we missed on our draft picks.

It's what training camp is all about.

And as for the oline, there are 90 SPACES for TC. Competition at one spot does not mean we won't pick up anybody else. Talk about sky is falling.

Great moves by the FO.

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Win4us

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Not a dumb question. CBA did not expand 53 man roster or 45 man game day roster, just the camp roster. I don't remember reading anything about the practice squad numbers. Here's the dates on the cuts that show the numbers.

August 30 Clubs reduce rosters from 90 players to 75 players.

September 3 Clubs reduce rosters to 53 players.

Thanks, appreciate the good info. For some reason I thought that roster expansion was part of the new cba. Here's to hoping the staff has to make some really tough decisions by the excellent product in preseason games.

Maybe we'll run across a team that's wr starved but has an overage of OG's to deal with before September.

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