Old Dominion Monarch 06 Posted July 19, 2011 Share Posted July 19, 2011 Where's the gif of micheal jackson eating popcorn Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hail2skins Posted July 19, 2011 Share Posted July 19, 2011 Hard to believe, but just barely. 1999 NFC East title and few Gibbs playoff runs and the great run by Marty off set the Spurrier years. FedEx Field records by coaches: Turner 18-12-1 Robiskie 1-0 Marty 4-4 OBC 8-8 Gibbs 17-15 Zorn 7-9 Shanny 2-6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rocskins Posted July 19, 2011 Share Posted July 19, 2011 Hate to tell you but this happens in every stadium. It's the nature of the beast. You are smoking crack if you think that it is just FedEx Field. EVERY FOOTBALL GAME HAS FIGHTS! I don't condone it but it's a reality and not something that an entire fan base should be judged upon. Guess you haven't been to any football games outside of FedEx Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gibbs Hog Heaven Posted July 19, 2011 Share Posted July 19, 2011 Hate to tell you but this happens in every stadium. It's the nature of the beast. You are smoking crack if you think that it is just FedEx Field. EVERY FOOTBALL GAME HAS FIGHTS! I don't condone it but it's a reality and not something that an entire fan base should be judged upon. Guess you haven't been to any football games outside of FedEx Being as most game day Redskins fans will only ever attend FedEx in their lifetimes, what happens at other stadiums I'm guessing doesn't concern them. What happen's at their stadium though when it effects their experience they've paid hard earned bucks for does. Hail. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skins2victory Posted July 19, 2011 Share Posted July 19, 2011 Every team is going to have fans that will get drunk and look to start fights. It is not just redskins fans, lol. This is happening at all the venues, not just at fed-ex. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PCS Posted July 19, 2011 Share Posted July 19, 2011 I don't know. Been to a lot of sporting events in my day. Hockey,basketball,football,baseball. Beer and tailgating seemed to have always been around yet it does seem there are more fights than ever these days. What's changed? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gibbs Hog Heaven Posted July 19, 2011 Share Posted July 19, 2011 I don't know. Been to a lot of sporting events in my day. Hockey,basketball,football,baseball. Beer and tailgating seemed to have always been around yet it does seem there are more fights than ever these days. What's changed? Society in general. There's a lot less tolerance and a lot less respect with each passing generation, Hail. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shuler74 Posted July 19, 2011 Share Posted July 19, 2011 Bad parenting Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
longball Posted July 19, 2011 Share Posted July 19, 2011 It is rather unfortunate, I have had several encounters with my fellow Redkins fans being drunk and starting a fight with me or the group. One drunk tossed a beer at a girl in our group, and another attempted to tackle me out of nowhere. The real issue is that Redskins fans, or the latest generation are products of DC. DC is very transient in nature with its make up. You get numerous fans that lack education on the team history, and therefore many go to get drunk rather than to cheer(or boo) the team. How many supposed Redksins fans at Fed ex cheered for the Skins during the 80's and 90's. Talk with numerous fans and you will be shocked. Oh, I am just here to watch the game, I came with a friend. Unfortunately for these drunks, I can handle myself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gurgeh Posted July 19, 2011 Share Posted July 19, 2011 But closed circuit TV is not going to stop the fights. Most of the time, the cops are there to arrest and/or remove the idiots. Fans near the fights are pretty quick to notify the usher or report it by text or phone. I still don't think the response by the police at FedEx is all that bad. Fights go one no more than a couple minutes at most before the Police arrive to take care of it.The issue is how do you prevent it. The only way to minimize it is do stop the alcohol. And I don't see that happening. And Old Dominion....you are fooling yourself if you think the alcohol is not the primary reason that fights break out. Yes, there are sober jerks; but quite frankly most jerks are also the same guys getting plastered, and who think getting drunk gives them an excuse to act like an *******. This link is out of date but covers the basics of how these issues were tackled in the UK: http://www.footballbanningorders.net/overview.htm Note that you would get banned from attending matches in any stadium, not just that of your own team, for periods ranging from 6 years upwards; some stadiums would never let you back in. And you can find yourself in trouble for "threatening or abusive" behaviour, never mind actual fighting. That takes care of individuals, but the way to get teams to take it seriously is for the regulating body to fine or otherwise punish teams whose fans misbehave; let's say you're told you'll lose your next first round draft pick if there's crowd trouble in your stadium again, and you'll see how much security magically materialises from that point onwards. And then you'll find the stadiums become somewhere you actually enjoy watching a game once more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gibbs Hog Heaven Posted July 19, 2011 Share Posted July 19, 2011 II have had several encounters with my fellow Redkins fans being drunk and starting a fight with me or the group. One drunk tossed a beer at a girl in our group, and another attempted to tackle me out of nowhere. The irony of reading instances like this and many more in countless other threads on the **** that goes down at FedEx over the years is never lost on me when you get folk as good as condoning this behaviour by saying "What do you expect when alcohols involved?/ It happen's everywhere" etc ad nauseam. When some low life throws beer at a female, that speak's much more about the type of individual involved than the amount of alcohol consumed EVER will. Hail. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
longball Posted July 19, 2011 Share Posted July 19, 2011 I was to young to remember RFK, maybe my father sheltered me from seeing this behavior. Did this happen at RFK like it does at fed ex? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IONTOP Posted July 20, 2011 Share Posted July 20, 2011 In response to The Mayor, I've (obviously) been to your tailgates, and if I'm walking through a parking lot as an away team's fan, I expect that. The most "taunting" I've heard from you guys is "Blah blah blah, cowboys suck AND you're wearing a jersey of a guy who doesn't even play on the team anymore" when they try to defend themselves, and say something back you yell into the megaphone "I'M SORRY I CAN'T HEAR YOU, YOU DON'T HAVE A MEGAPHONE"... Taunting with words: Fun and games Provoking: Not fun and games... I've seen one kind at the DTC tailgates but never provoking. (And sorry I haven't stopped by in the past couple years, was going to the Bucs games both years with my good friend who is a Bucs fan and knew it'd be a bad idea to stop by) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kubstix Posted July 20, 2011 Share Posted July 20, 2011 Why continue beating a dead horse? While this is unacceptable behavior, have any of you people who responded ever been to an away game? Try going to Philly, or the Meadowlands. FedEX is rated G compared to what goes on at these stadiums. Their is no slow decline of FedEX field. Have you people ever gone to a bar before? With a crowded bar of 75 people, I'm willing to take a gamble that a 75% chance that a fight will happen over the course of the night. Now everyone is "totally surprised" 1 fight happened in a stadium that holds over 91,000 people? It's almost as sad as hearing someone telling all of us how disappointed they were when they took there 7 year old kid to a Monday Night game and had to endure "foul language" the entire night. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IONTOP Posted July 20, 2011 Share Posted July 20, 2011 ^True... And I'm usually all for going to away stadiums, because it's FUN to walk through the parking lot getting verbally jabbed at, and in the away games I've gone to, here are the ranks of those stadium's people: 1) Cincy (08) 2 of their fans actually went through with an Ice Luge and were giving out shots. Absolutely super nice people would go back whenever possible 2) Tampa (Playoff game '05) mostly because there were over 30% Redskins fans there, everyone was super nice 3) Dallas ('03,'04) Sure there was some razzing, but overall really nice people, as much as I hate to say it 4) Carolina (09) Just an awesome time, and once again 30% Redskins fans 5) N/A 6) N/A 7) N/A 8) N/A 9) N/A 10) N/A Dishonorable mention: Seattle Playoff game '07, was spit on, had our path blocked going into the stadium, beer dumped on me, cussed at, one woman shoved me to try to provoke a fight, just an overall horrible experience... THAT is crossing the line... If you wanna yell out to me that my team sucks and aren't going to win today, that's fine, but they seemed to get pissed off when they dumped the beer on me and I just said "Why would you waste alcohol like that?" and smiled... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
repo_4 Posted July 20, 2011 Share Posted July 20, 2011 Fighting with opposition fans would be bad enough in some ****** up sense of pride, but 'Skins fans fighting 'Skins fans? Are you ******* kidding me!Seriously, what the **** is wrong with these people? I'd love someone to straight faced defend that. There needs to be zero tolerance. If your caught on CCTV within the stadium fighting or acting like a complete drunken prick and disrupting the game for others, your banned. NO exceptions. Only way your gona' stop it. Hail. I can actually defend fighting another Skins fan. In 2006 my wife and I went to the cowgirls game. About 6 guys in Skins jersys kept jumping over seats, yelling at everyone and falling all over me and her. One guy elbowed her in the head twice. After the second time I grabbed him by the arm and shoved him off. He tried to come at me but some cowgirl fans (believe it or not) sitting behind us got between us until security showed up to escort them away. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skinsfan1311 Posted July 20, 2011 Share Posted July 20, 2011 I just looked them up on youtube. A classless group of tailgaters who who drink excessively to get wasted, look to start mess with opposing fans and get rowdy and yell profanities left and right.Any of those guys affiliated with the Extremeskins tailgate? Has there been any conflict between the two groups? Seriously? It's obvious that you've never actually been to a DTC tailgate. What is a Dead Tree Crew?In 2001 the Dead Tree Crew, or DTC was three kids aged 18, 20, and 21 who by fate met eachother years before and decided to start what now could be called one of the most infamous tailgates, not only at FedEx Field, not only in the NFL, but the world. Fast forward to 2011, the DTC is one of the largest, if not largest tailgate at FedEx Field. Have we got in fights in the past 11 years? Very few actually. Do some attendees get super drunk at our tailgate? Yes, absolutely. But in the past 11 years, the co-founders of the DTC, and members that have contributed during the years have transformed the DTC tailgate to "premier" levels. My friend and myself, personally finance most everything involved. Tents, grills, music equipment, food, drinks, and a few other "core" members fill in the rest. If you are an opposing fan, nothing has changed during those years, you are still not welcome. If you are a Redskins fan, nothing has changed during the same amount of time, you are always welcome to come stop by and eat and drink with us. You dont have to bring anything but a strong allegiance to the team. We have had offers to be sponsored by various companies, have been approached to sell merchandise and cash in on the 11 years of viral marketing, but we declined. The DTC is still what it was in 2001. An awesome time for Redskin fans, and a not so awesome time for opposing fans. If you like excellent food, good music, plenty of drink selections, alcoholic, or non alcoholic, Redskin fans that bleed burgundy and **** gold, and prefer your girl to guy ratio at 50%, then the DTC tailgate is for you. Now, if you spend most of your life on the internet, and enjoy judging people and things you have never seen in real life, and have a pre-determined notion that the DTC is a bunch of alcoholic thugs, then just dont attend it. Its in the green lot. Section F-51. Along side the hill behind Jericho Church, under a dead tree. There is a reason why every NFL season the DTC tailgate population grows. There is a reason why multiple news outlets, whether they be online, on TV or in print, are there pretty much every game. The people that have been, they know the reason. The people that have not been, watch a video on the internet, well they wont know, and if I was judgmental, which I am not, id say they don't know much anyways. Either way, the DTC will be open for business as usual this season. We have upgraded pretty much the entire tailgate and have some new additions this season that will be sure to please the regulars. Cant wait. Hail to the Redskins! So which drunken video brawl in the first post was a DTC member/tailgater responsible for? I'll take a guess. All 5. Again...stop by a DTC tailgate and judge for yourself. The DTC throws a kick-ass tailgate and welcomes all Skins fans. Great food, great drinks, great music and a great group of people. They give opposing fans ****, but if you'd actually bother to stop by, you'll see that it's witty and entertaining. Mayor,I've seen you guys personally, have seen videos, and also saw your website before it seemingly no longer exists. How in the world does anything you described in that long post prove that you guys are not part of the problem at FedEx Field. All it does is give you cred, kinda like a gang. Good natured, non-confrontational harrassing of opposing fans at FedEx Field is not a bad thing. But the drunken bafoons of the DTC take it a step too far and are absolutely part of the problem at FedEx Field. "drunken bafoons(sp?)" Again, stop by, meet everyone, take in what's going on, and then feel free to judge. Until then, you don't know WTF you're talking about. Seriously. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
addicted Posted July 20, 2011 Share Posted July 20, 2011 Don't let the few bad apples spoil the responsible drinkers out there by suggesting things like no alcohol at games. I take offense to that. Not all drinkers are like that If it bothers you form up groups to alert the police about stupid drunks if you want to do something about it Who said you needed to be in your seat the whole game? Do something about it and it will stop but stop waiting for someone else to do something first Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jflow78 Posted July 20, 2011 Share Posted July 20, 2011 My bet is a lot of these people care about the game... a whole lot... Regardless of their heathen behavior Just not enough to actually remember the experience, because I guarantee half the drunks in those videos woke up in prison thinking, "WTF, where am I?" They should stay home. A public event means it's open to EVERYONE, kids included. Just because some *** hole can't hold his liquor doesn't mean the rest of us should have to suffer his/her juvenile lack of discipline. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skinfan2k Posted July 20, 2011 Share Posted July 20, 2011 fans at away games only bother you if you start something. having been to every nfc east stadium and a couple of others, they have said nothing to me. the only ones i know who talk are just joking around and having a good time otherwise i have no complaints about anywhere else Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boston Skins Posted July 20, 2011 Share Posted July 20, 2011 "drunken bafoons(sp?)" Again, stop by, meet everyone, take in what's going on, and then feel free to judge. Until then, you don't know WTF you're talking about. Seriously. I'm good. Thanks though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IONTOP Posted July 20, 2011 Share Posted July 20, 2011 fans at away games only bother you if you start something. having been to every nfc east stadium and a couple of others, they have said nothing to me. the only ones i know who talk are just joking around and having a good time otherwise i have no complaints about anywhere else See my post a few up... I've only had one bad experience and we weren't starting anything at all... They were just being incredibly hostile to us... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wheat Posted July 20, 2011 Share Posted July 20, 2011 Just ran across this! I have been to games all over the country college and pro and it goes on everywhere! Some worse than others, but it is common among fans in all stadiums. I remember seeing it happen at RFK. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SonnyandSam Posted July 20, 2011 Share Posted July 20, 2011 This link is out of date but covers the basics of how these issues were tackled in the UK:http://www.footballbanningorders.net/overview.htm Note that you would get banned from attending matches in any stadium, not just that of your own team, for periods ranging from 6 years upwards; some stadiums would never let you back in. And you can find yourself in trouble for "threatening or abusive" behaviour, never mind actual fighting. That takes care of individuals, but the way to get teams to take it seriously is for the regulating body to fine or otherwise punish teams whose fans misbehave; let's say you're told you'll lose your next first round draft pick if there's crowd trouble in your stadium again, and you'll see how much security magically materialises from that point onwards. And then you'll find the stadiums become somewhere you actually enjoy watching a game once more. What makes you think that any of that does not happen at FedEx? People involved in fighting DO get removed from the stadium. And I am quite sure that those who resist arrest end up going to jail...and I've seen a few stupid drunks do that. There have been reports here and in the Washington Post of STHs losing their season tickets when they sold their tickets to idiots. How is the stadium going to know you have been banished? I highly doubt they check your ID entering the stadium and then check it against a list of banned people. Again....those are steps used where there were literally riots in the stands. That has not happened in the US, thank goodness....although I would not put it out of the realm of possibility. I'm not ready to live in a police state where I give up my freedom. Too much of my freedom has already been taken away by our governments at levels. Maybe that's OK with you; but for a lot of us....it's not. All that "banning" and no way to enforce it...typical liberal BS. It does absolutely no good. All it does is scare the good people. The bad folks don't scare so easily. It's like a lock.....it pretty much keeps out the honest people and the dumb crooks. Any real crook is easily going to break into your car or home if he wants to. None of those rules on that site are going to stop fights from occurring at matches in England. I highly doubt they don't have fights in the stands. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gibbs Hog Heaven Posted July 20, 2011 Share Posted July 20, 2011 You stop banned fans from entering the stadium, or at least limit their chances, by virtue of good intelligence work. If your stadiums monitored by an adequate CCTV system throughout, the police who would have pictures of previous banned trouble causers would be on the look out and have a far better chance of stopping them getting around the ban. You see a banned face on camera in a section, you know exactly were to send your guys on the ground to remove him/ her. Same with the security staff at the turnstiles. Crowds being monitored through a game isn't an infringement of civil liberties aking to living under a police state when it's done to ensure the safety and enjoyment of all in attendance. And the obvious answer to equate fighting in the streets in England over the years to the US would be many instances at college games. Maybe in your view burning cars and smashing property is just over exuberance not akin to rioting. But I'm darn sure if it was my property or vehicle I wouldn't think that. Hail. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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