Michele Bachmann is first GOP presidential candidate to sign pledge banning gay marriage, porn.

[@DCGoldPants]

The issue is not simply what goes on in the bedroom

keep going. I want to hear (read) this.....

[Bang]

keep going. I want to hear (read) this.....

Me too.

This ought to be good.

~Bang

[NavyDave]

If people and the states vote for marriage to remain normal err between a man and woman in their individual states so be it I see nothing wrong with that.

Society against cruelty to Animals, Algore and environmentalists should support banning porn. There would be fewer instances of Monkeys spanked and Poultry choked. Imagine reducing the huge amounts of CO2 expelled when viewers can no longer have a fap-tastic experience.

[Corcaigh]

Sooner or later Bachman's husband will come out as a gay man. He is more gay than Nathan Lane.

[DRSmith]

When will the American Taliban learn, why not just move to a country that already has your views as the law of the land

[Stadium-Armory]

If people and the states vote for marriage to remain normal err between a man and woman in their individual states so be it I see nothing wrong with that.

I disagree. There are some things that state's can't vote to legalize (or make illegal). Equal protection is one, like free speech and others. We are a republic, not a mob rule democracy.

Can state's vote to legalize murder? No.

[twa]

keep going. I want to hear (read) this.....

http://www.gaypatriot.net/2011/06/13/the-absurdity-of-the-legalize-gay-slogan/

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[Hubbs]

So the banned porn is kiddie porn or forced participation???......and some of you object?

Yes, surely that's what "all forms of pornography" must mean.

The part that really gets me is "seduced into promiscuity," but that would involve a much deeper discussion about the societal ramifications of associating sex with immorality and guilt, especially when it comes to women, so I think I'll just say that that line made me strap on my LOLlerskates and leave it at that.

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It is such a small base that cares what you do in your own bedroom.

I can think of a lot of words I'd use to describe that base, but "small" isn't one of them.

[DRSmith]

That sight is not conservative he used the word progress to describe gay right that what the left are progressives

[Bang]

Well, that video changed my mind.

Confronting hatred and bigotry with glitter is just inexcusable.

Seriously TWA, if you knew how hard i was laughing at you right now, you'd want to hit me.

i hope you posted that video as a joke. Please tell me that wasn't meant to be serious.

~Bang

[Unforgiven]

http://www.gaypatriot.net/2011/06/13/the-absurdity-of-the-legalize-gay-slogan/

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"The integrity of Michele Bachmann" ... rofl.

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Obviously liberals need activists with the high moral character of conservative activists like James O'Keefe ...

[Corcaigh]

Obviously liberals need activists what the high moral character of conservative activists like James O'Keefe ...

The funniest part was the interviewers mock outrage about how such behavior didn't "contribute to the public discourse." Like he gives a **** about discourse.

[twa]

Yes, surely that's what "all forms of pornography" must mean.

The part that really gets me is "seduced into promiscuity," but that would involve a much deeper discussion about the societal ramifications of associating sex with immorality and guilt, especially when it comes to women, so I think I'll just say that that line made me strap on my LOLlerskates and leave it at that.

I would welcome more clarity in the sentence as to exactly what porn(and I'm sure it will be forthcoming),but if you study prostitution and the sex slave trade (both of which tie into the porn business)there is indeed seduction into promiscuity.

dismissing evil because of your fear of others morals being imposed feeds the problem.

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Bang I expected nothing less.....did you bother with the link?

[DRSmith]

I would welcome more clarity in the sentence as to exactly what porn(and I'm sure it will be forthcoming),but if you study prostitution and the sex slave trade (both of which tie into the porn business)there is indeed seduction into promiscuity.

dismissing evil because of your fear of others morals being imposed feeds the problem.

No what feeds the problem is the is over all attitude of greed and selfishness that rests in the hearts of the vast majority of people.

Something you and most the religous folks who want to impose morality on people never get is you do nothing until you change the heart of people

[twa]

HELP...DR is trying to impose his morals on poor little me.

[Unforgiven]

I would welcome more clarity in the sentence as to exactly what porn(and I'm sure it will be forthcoming),but if you study prostitution and the sex slave trade (both of which tie into the porn business)there is indeed seduction into promiscuity.

dismissing evil because of your fear of others morals being imposed feeds the problem.

The pledge simply says "all forms of pornography". It becomes a bit absurd to try and defend the pledge under the guise of trying to protect people from forced prostitution and the sex slave trade. In all honesty I think the problem of sex crimes would become much worse if you were to actually ban pornography (it's doing wonders in the muslim world obviously).

The people on these forums aren't 'dismissing evil', they're simply mocking this woman for signing this pledge which says...

"Humane protection of women and the innocent fruit of conjugal intimacy – our next generation of American children – from human trafficking, sexual slavery, seduction into promiscuity, and all forms of pornography and prostitution,"

The issue isn't "human trafficking, sexual slavery" portion at all. It's the "all forms of pornography". You don't need to keep bringing up the already illegal issue of prostitution and sex slave trade.

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By the way, "the innocent fruit of conjugal intimacy" is quite possibly the most ridiculous way to say 'children' I've ever seen in my life.

[DRSmith]

Amazing how some of the loudest advocates for small government advocate big government when it comes to moral issues.Take big brother o0ut of business, but put him in the homes of everyone I don't like.

But you have to realize these are the same folks that say government is the problem not the soluion so vote for them

Seems to me if you really thought government was the problem then you would not vote at all

[twa]

Unforgiven

is this part immaterial to the sentence?

and other types of coercion or stolen innocence.

Porn is legal and will stay that way...just like gay sex....except for what?

prostitution and the sex slave business are directly related to the sentence in the pledge

Your assertion of all porn(and others of gay sex being threatened) being banned has no factual support

[Bang]

[/color]Bang I expected nothing less.....did you bother with the link?

Of course I did

And if you believe anything that the guy making a point about a t-shirt slogan said, then you'd stop with your crusade.

People aren't arrested for being gay. To me it sounds like you believe that "rights" means "be thankful we aren't throwing you in jail"

I'm still laughing.

~Bang

[twa]

Of course I did

And if you believe anything that the guy making a point about a t-shirt slogan said, then you'd stop with your crusade.

People aren't arrested for being gay. To me it sounds like you believe that "rights" means "be thankful we aren't throwing you in jail"

I'm still laughing.

~Bang

ah, the old switch from what goes on in the bedroom to rights....tired old trick

[techboy]

But you have to realize these are the same folks that say government is the problem not the soluion so vote for them

Seems to me if you really thought government was the problem then you would not vote at all

I realize that hypocrisy has become the favorite and most devastating charge in politics today, but this doesn't even make sense. I think you're trying too hard.

[elkabong82]

"Humane protection of women and the innocent fruit of conjugal intimacy – our next generation of American children – from human trafficking, sexual slavery, seduction into promiscuity, and all forms of pornography and prostitution, infanticide, abortion and other types of coercion or stolen innocence."

So sad that because twa only nit picks instead of addressing the whole of the document, that this actually has to be broken down.

Protect women and children from human trafficking, sexual slavery, seduction into promiscuity, and ALL FORMS OF PORNOGRAPHY and prostitution, infanticide, abortion and other types of coercion or stolen innocence.

"Other types of coercion or lost innocence" clearly is meant to cover other things not already specifically mentioned. Twisting it to mean that it only refers to certain types of porn is misguided at best, and ignores the commas in the sentence, and for twa's viewpoint to work, it would also mean they are not against all forms of prostitution, just specific types, which clearly isn't true.

How about a comment on the part where the document states that only candidates who believe in straight marriage can have sound fiscal policies, energy policies, and balanced budget policies. It certainly didn't help Bush out.

or how about the part of the document that talks about slavery and how children born into slavery in 1860 were more likely to be raised in a 2 parent household than African-American children today?

Nope, just ignore that and instead nitpick 1 sentence and twist away the actual meaning into something more convenient. same old same old.

[Larry]

I would welcome more clarity in the sentence as to exactly what porn(and I'm sure it will be forthcoming)

Oh, no doubt.

The GOP has spent decades perfecting their technique of outright, proudly standing up in public, saying something bat*** crazy, and then, when people point out that it's bat**** crazy, spinning some "well, if you hold the transcript sideways, and close one eye, and click your heels together, and take this other thing I said, in another place and day, and . . . " story, which they will then use to try to argue, simultaneously, that:

1. I never said what I actually said. The evil Liberal Media is trying to twist my words into meaning exactly what they say.
   
2. And it was accurate, and I stand by it.

Often, such "logic" comes to ES via you.

Which, I suppose, is why you've already gotten to work on it.

[Bang]

ah, the old switch from what goes on in the bedroom to rights....tired old trick

seriously?

In a nutshell, the entire reason that their rights are denied is because people can't keep their minds off of what exactly makes them different,

what is it that makes them different from you TWA? Do they look different? Do they have an extra thumb or something?

there's ONE thing that makes them any different from you.

ONE.

Who they want to have sex with is the ONLY thng that differentiates them from you.

Althought they might have better decorating taste, too, but that isn't the point.

~Bang

[Slateman]

What I find ironic, is that they want to ban Shari'a law but they want to force their own version of it on the population