Salon: Anthony Weiner-converted-to-Islam meme spreads

[SkinsHokieFan]

Its stuff like this which is evidence of the right wing in our country having jumped off a cliff. And yes, this is actually spreading all over the right wing blogosphere. Notice the use of "Muslim Brotherhood" and the homosexual relationship between Hillary and Huma

http://www.salon.com/news/politics/war_room/2011/06/21/weiner_muslim_robert_spencer/index.html

This interview with Robert Spencer, the go-to Islam expert for the right wing, offers a taste of the worldview of the Shariah fear-mongering set:

Frontpage: I would like to talk to you today about Anthony Weiner’s marriage to his Muslim Brotherhood wife, Huma Abedin.

How is it exactly that a Muslim woman connected to the Muslim Brotherhood is married to a Jewish man? Something is not fitting here, right?

Spencer: Jamie, Islamic law prohibits a Muslim woman from marrying a non-Muslim man. A Muslim man may marry a non-Muslim woman, but not the other way around. This is yet another manifestation of Islamic supremacism: the idea is that a wife will become a member of her husband’s household, and the children will follow the religion of the father. Thus, Muslim men marrying non-Muslim women ultimately enriches the Islamic community, while the non-Muslim community must forever be made to diminish.

Consequently, when a non-Muslim man begins a relationship with an observant Muslim woman, he is usually pressured to convert to Islam, and such conversion is made a condition of the marriage. Of course, laws are often honored in the breach, and this is not always true. So while we know that Huma Abedin’s parents were devout and observant Muslims — indeed, her father was an imam — we don’t know what exactly is going on with her marriage to Anthony Weiner.

Certainly the most likely scenario is that Weiner did convert to Islam, as Abedin’s mother, a professor in Saudi Arabia, would almost certainly have insisted that he do so. Weiner has made no public statement of this conversion, but since it would almost certainly have cost him politically if he had announced it, this silence is not any indication that he didn’t actually convert.

However, it is also possible, given the recent scandal involving Weiner’s apparently frequent and sexually charged contact with other women, that the rumors that the Abedin/Weiner union is a political marriage of convenience are true. After all, in 2008, Hillary Clinton was running for president. There were widespread insinuations that she was involved in a romantic and/or sexual relationship with Abedin, her ever-present personal assistant. Those whisperings persisted into Clinton’s tenure as Secretary of State. Abedin’s 2010 marriage to Weiner, at which Bill Clinton presided, put those rumors to rest.

In Islamic law, a Muslim must officiate a marriage ceremony; hence if Bill Clinton was the only one officiating, the marriage was not valid according to Islamic law. Huma Abedin would undoubtedly have known that. Thus, if no Muslim was officiating along with Clinton, Weiner would not have had to convert to Islam, as the whole thing was a charade from the outset, apparently entered into with the full awareness of all parties concerned.

Emphasis added.

This is the second time we've heard the baseless claim that the very Jewish Weiner might have converted to Islam when he married Huma Abedin.

The important point here is that Spencer is no fringe figure; he's at the very center of the anti-Muslim movement in the United States. His bio describes the impressive access he has to both mainstream and right-leaning media sources:

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[Califan007 The Constipated]

^^^ :rotflmao:

[Springfield]

So... two questions.

Why does anybody care about Wiener any more?

Does anybody else think that this article is a major "reach"?

[Destino]

Is anyone surprised? I'm not.

[deejaydana]

how reputable is Salon?

[SnyderShrugged]

Confused over why his religion matters at all, even if he never had the scandal?

[Dan T.]

In Islamic law, a Muslim must officiate a marriage ceremony; hence if Bill Clinton was the only one officiating, the marriage was not valid according to Islamic law.

Or, the marriage IS valid because BILL CLINTON IS A MUSLIM TOO!!!

HqqQ-3tTZig

[SkinInsite]

Shouldn't they save "he's a muslim!" for somebody who actually has a political career.

[G.A.C.O.L.B.]

Is that true SHF? That a person is normally forced to convert as part of the marriage agreement? I seem to remember there being a list of desired traits in a spouse but, IIRC, being a Muslim is pretty far down--like #6--and being behind things like honesty and good heart and whatever. It definitely isn't a requirement. Maybe I'm remembering wrong though.

[SkinsHokieFan]

Confused over why his religion matters at all, even if he never had the scandal?

It does when "Islam" or "Muslims" are involved. Didn't you see the words "Muslim Brotherhood" in the article?

Is that true SHF? That a person is normally forced to convert as part of the marriage agreement? I seem to remember there being a list of desired traits in a spouse but, IIRC, being a Muslim is pretty far down--like #6--and being behind things like honesty and good heart and whatever. It definitely isn't a requirement. Maybe I'm remembering wrong though.

Yes, in terms of a Muslim woman marrying a non Muslim man, although I expect this practice to wither away in the west in the coming generations.

[oisn1]

The important point here is that Spencer is no fringe figure; he's at the very center of the anti-Muslim movement in the United States. His bio describes the impressive access he has to both mainstream and right-leaning media sources:

I understand what the author is trying to say, but I actually think many Americans would consider the anti-Muslim movement to be fringe. In general, the movement is essentially the anti-Irish movement of the 1800s/ anti-Jewish movement of the early 1900s/ anti-black movement of the mid 1900s/ etc. Just another group of "others" for (mostly) right-wing demagogues to scare people with.

Also, Anthony Weiner is such a secret Muslim that he was one of the staunchest allies of Israel in the Congress. The perfect sleeper Muslim, but his plan for American destruction was ruined.

[Lombardi's_kid_brother]

I understand what the author is trying to say, but I actually think many Americans would consider the anti-Muslim movement to be fringe. In general, the movement is essentially the anti-Irish movement of the 1800s/ anti-Jewish movement of the early 1900s/ anti-black movement of the mid 1900s/ etc. Just another group of "others" for (mostly) right-wing demagogues to scare people with.

I don't think those movements were necessarily "fringe."

Right now, serious Republican presidential candidates are debating whether Muslims should be forced to take a loyalty oath. Anti-Muslim rhetoric is mainstream in one of the two major political parties.

[ACW]

I don't think those movements were necessarily "fringe."

Right now' date=' serious Republican presidential candidates are debating whether Muslims should be forced to take a loyalty oath. Anti-Muslim rhetoric is mainstream in one of the two major political parties.[/quote']Don't kniow how serious Cain is

[Lombardi's_kid_brother]

Don't kniow how serious Cain is

Newt tried to run right of him on it.

[Bang]

Dear conservative base.

In our ongoing capaign to prove how stupid we believe you are, here's some more ridiculous bull**** we're going to hope you'll believe.

Sincerely,

the Neo Cons

~Barf

[thebluefood]

Arabs seems to be the new Jew, Irish, Chinese, or Black in this country. Every generation in this country always has that one ethnic group that seems to get the brunt of the abuse.