BRAVEONTHEWARPATH93 Posted May 30, 2011 Share Posted May 30, 2011 he's a kid like me and yes sometimes we tweet about chillin and buying fitted hats...get over it, he'll mature John Wall and Brandon Banks tweet about the same things Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LBetts Posted May 30, 2011 Share Posted May 30, 2011 I really fail to see the problem with this. It's true that he's not using twitter to discuss the finer points of philosophy, but who does? I refuse to get alarmed by his use of a social network for (gasp) social networking... Plus there haven't been any red flags regarding character from his college career and I think he's come over well in all the interviews he's done so far. This is right up there with the "I'm worried about Hankerson as he doesn't sound like a Rhodes scholar" concerns... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commander Adama Posted May 30, 2011 Share Posted May 30, 2011 The thing that shocked me most, was the other night he put his BBM out there for everyone. Not such a smart idea in my mind.BBM? Big Bowel Movement? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewCliche21 Posted May 30, 2011 Share Posted May 30, 2011 he's a kid like me and yes sometimes we tweet about chillin and buying fitted hats...get over it, he'll matureJohn Wall and Brandon Banks tweet about the same things Listen, you punk kid: You are to spend EVERY SECOND showing the world that you are a PERFECT ANGEL who cares about NOTHING but hard work, Jesus, America, the Redskins, and charity. You are never to have any fun, ever. You are property of all of those who follow you on twitter. Learn it and love it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicken Fried Posted May 30, 2011 Share Posted May 30, 2011 Maybe he just doesn't realize how he's coming across by not tweeting about the team. It doesn't mean anything necessarily, but it could. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commander Adama Posted May 30, 2011 Share Posted May 30, 2011 Street_lyte, I honestly believe your original post to be well thought out and has a well articulated point. I however disagree with it. What you are saying could actually be true, but I do not believe you can get that from just his tweets. The young man seems to have a good sense of humor and if he likes to tweet, good for him. Not my cup of tea, but diversity makes the world go round. Now as far as the tweets themselves, all I can say is you do not know this young man and he could be posting like he does just trying to be cool. Also, as far as him relaxing right now. His agent doesn't want him getting hurt until he gets a contract, which I cannot fault the man for. After he gets a contract and football resumes, Mike and the rest of the coaches will work on all the team to make sure they are football ready. Just my 2 cents. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skinsinparadise Posted May 30, 2011 Share Posted May 30, 2011 Time will tell I suppose' date=' but I liked this read about Jenkins. For what its worth, Trent Williams has a 6yr $60m contract in his arse pocket and he isn't here either.[url']http://blog.redskins.com/2011/05/17/jarvis-jenkins-has-an-on-and-off-switch/[/url] Good read, thanks, but also on 980, Chris Russell before the draft talked a couple of times about how his sources tell him the Redskins weren't happy with Trent's work ethic in year 1. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
street_lyte Posted May 30, 2011 Author Share Posted May 30, 2011 Listen, you punk kid: You are to spend EVERY SECOND showing the world that you are a PERFECT ANGEL who cares about NOTHING but hard work, Jesus, America, the Redskins, and charity. You are never to have any fun, ever. You are property of all of those who follow you on twitter. Learn it and love it! Wow, way to completely blow what I said out of proportion. I never even hinted at the idea that you have to be a "perfect angel", NO FUN, and all that crap. All I said was that I didn't like what I was reading. Sheesh. Also, I think what hurts him more in my eyes is what I see him tweet compared to all of the other Redskins tweets. There's a huge gap in what he says and what everyone else says. Just go look at Ryan Kerrigan's page. That guy REEKS of blue-collar kick-ass. Again, we won't know anything for sure until these guys suit up and play, and I'll be rooting my ass off for both of them, but you can't just sit there and say I'm crazy for forming an opinon on someone based on what he chooses to put out there. To some, your social media life doesn't (and shouldn't matter.) That's fine. However, I'll throw out a hypothetical situation. What if you were interviewing 2 men for a job position and their resumes/interviews were both solid and there's wasn't much of a gap between them. You google both their names and find they both have public facebook accounts. One guy is clearly a big-time partier and the other seems a bit more "straight-laced." Would you factor that into your decision? (assuming you have a problem with that particular lifestyle) I know I would. I'm a full-time music teacher. My bosses googled the **** outta me after background checks cleared to see if they could find out anything more about me, especially pertaining to things like doing drugs and being into child-porn/pedophilia. They should have, too. My point is that what people put online means something to some people, not much to others. I know he's a young kid and just cracking into the league during a lockout, which must suck. I personally just don't like what I'm hearing from him. Street_lyte, I honestly believe your original post to be well thought out and has a well articulated point. I however disagree with it. What you are saying could actually be true, but I do not believe you can get that from just his tweets. The young man seems to have a good sense of humor and if he likes to tweet, good for him. Not my cup of tea, but diversity makes the world go round. Now as far as the tweets themselves, all I can say is you do not know this young man and he could be posting like he does just trying to be cool. Also, as far as him relaxing right now. His agent doesn't want him getting hurt until he gets a contract, which I cannot fault the man for. After he gets a contract and football resumes, Mike and the rest of the coaches will work on all the team to make sure they are football ready.Just my 2 cents. Thanks for the input, and I have no problem with anything you said. I think all I'm trying to say as that we all judge people based on what we see/hear, it's human nature. I honestly don't think there's anything wrong with it either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lavarleap56 Posted May 30, 2011 Share Posted May 30, 2011 :doh: let these guys live there life, they are not robots. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blindlywewander Posted May 30, 2011 Share Posted May 30, 2011 Uh oh. Bad vibes? Based on Twitter? This should be on ESPN. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
street_lyte Posted May 30, 2011 Author Share Posted May 30, 2011 Uh oh. Bad vibes? Based on Twitter? This should be on ESPN. Cmon guys, it's the LOCK-season, what else is there to talk about? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Est.1974 Posted May 30, 2011 Share Posted May 30, 2011 Good read, thanks, but also on 980, Chris Russell before the draft talked a couple of times about how his sources tell him the Redskins weren't happy with Trent's work ethic in year 1. Most reports from the 2011 draft suggest we picked high character guys, high motor guys, team captains etc etc. With that in mind, even in his absence, Jenkins gets a pass at the moment given the overall mess that the NFL is in at present. But, in time it will turn out to be a interesting selection, because many feel it was a reach pick to start off with.I think this pick has to work out or it becomes a major fail on the side of our FO. Jenkins needs to start almost from the get go, and be a long term contributor on this team. Thats also interesting about Trent - was a knock on him pre draft I believe, or it was in the media anyway. All things considered, it really is hard to judge these guys too much at the moment. I am beginning to think that the whole 2011 season might not tell us too many long term answers as well. Too much time is being wasted & some critics against players may not be that fair in the short term. You know, we draft 12 players but what can we really expect from them in the 2011 season. Its nearly bloody June already and they aren't anywhere near getting up and running. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elkabong82 Posted May 30, 2011 Share Posted May 30, 2011 Granted, this is based entirely on just the use of his twitter account, hardly an indicator of anything substantial, and it IS during a lockout. I don't know him personally, and I don't know much about his college career other than what most of us have seen/read about him. Don't you think if you're going to start a discussion that questions Jarvis Jenkins as a player because of an unprofessional attitude that you should bring more evidence to the table than just his twitter account? I mean, would it have been so hard to google reports on him from college and draft reports to see what coaches and experts say about attitude? Was his attitude a red flag going into the draft? Has he gotten in trouble with the law? Usually when a player has attitude concerns the media outlets will jump on it when he is drafted. There's nothing like that on Jenkins that I could find doing google search. And trust me, if Jenkins had attitude concerns we would have heard about it all over ES when we drafted him, as fans would likely have said: "oh great, Hayneworth Jr., smh" And it's not like Jarvis Jenkins' twitter account is open for all to read, you do have to send him a follow request. How would you like it if someone created a thread claiming you are quick to judge people you don't know personally and based that opinion off this thread and nothing more? How would you feel about some random person making personal judgements about you based solely on your comments on a social networking site and then implied you could be bad at your job because of it? Would you think such a person was a jerk? And that's not a personal attack or anything, just trying to show you the fault in forming an incomplete personal judgement. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom10Y Posted May 30, 2011 Share Posted May 30, 2011 Rather him tweeting while "chillin'" than him tweeting during practice, film sessions or games. That's what people do when they relax. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
THEREALTOR1 Posted May 30, 2011 Share Posted May 30, 2011 The thing that shocked me most, was the other night he put his BBM out there for everyone. Not such a smart idea in my mind. I don't know what this means. He sounds like a Harvard alum... and I certainly don't know what the hell half of whatever this was, means. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LoudMouth12thMan Posted May 30, 2011 Share Posted May 30, 2011 Shanahan will help him get used to things other than chillin' and nappin'....homey don't play. :paranoid: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gutlead74 Posted May 30, 2011 Share Posted May 30, 2011 Never trust a tater Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LoudMouth12thMan Posted May 30, 2011 Share Posted May 30, 2011 :doh: let these guys live there life, they are not robots. Aaaayyy Aaayyyy Aaayyyy!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skinsinparadise Posted May 30, 2011 Share Posted May 30, 2011 Thats also interesting about Trent - was a knock on him pre draft I believe' date=' or it was in the media anyway.All things considered, it really is hard to judge these guys too much at the moment. I am beginning to think that the whole 2011 season might not tell us too many long term answers as well. Too much time is being wasted & some critics against players may not be that fair in the short term. You know, we draft 12 players but what can we really expect from them in the 2011 season. Its nearly bloody June already and they aren't anywhere near getting up and running.[/quote'] As for Trent, yeah that's true pre draft his work ethic was questioned, I didn't hear any criticism about it as a player until recently, if I recall Russell's quote was strong something about them being "very unhappy with it". I agree that its early to critique or peg anyone, am just saying IMO not showing up to player camp can be a variable that indicates something and equally it could be meaningless when its all said and done. Its simply for me i am not going to say its slam dunk meaningless until I see the rest of the movie. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewCliche21 Posted May 31, 2011 Share Posted May 31, 2011 Wow, way to completely blow what I said out of proportion. I never even hinted at the idea that you have to be a "perfect angel", NO FUN, and all that crap. All I said was that I didn't like what I was reading. Sheesh. Also, I think what hurts him more in my eyes is what I see him tweet compared to all of the other Redskins tweets. There's a huge gap in what he says and what everyone else says. Just go look at Ryan Kerrigan's page. That guy REEKS of blue-collar kick-ass. Again, we won't know anything for sure until these guys suit up and play, and I'll be rooting my ass off for both of them, but you can't just sit there and say I'm crazy for forming an opinon on someone based on what he chooses to put out there. To some, your social media life doesn't (and shouldn't matter.) That's fine. However, I'll throw out a hypothetical situation. What if you were interviewing 2 men for a job position and their resumes/interviews were both solid and there's wasn't much of a gap between them. You google both their names and find they both have public facebook accounts. One guy is clearly a big-time partier and the other seems a bit more "straight-laced." Would you factor that into your decision? (assuming you have a problem with that particular lifestyle) I know I would. I'm a full-time music teacher. My bosses googled the **** outta me after background checks cleared to see if they could find out anything more about me, especially pertaining to things like doing drugs and being into child-porn/pedophilia. They should have, too. My point is that what people put online means something to some people, not much to others. I know he's a young kid and just cracking into the league during a lockout, which must suck. I personally just don't like what I'm hearing from him. 1) I wasn't aiming it at you in particular, so don't take it personally. 2) I follow a lot of our team, too. Moss, Landry, Henson, and Banks, for instance, don't exactly spout anything beautiful. Niles Paul right now, actually: @Niles_PaulNiles Paul Why do lesbian girls date girls who dress and act like guys? That has always baffled me... 2 hours ago via Echofon I mean, come on now. Dumb tweets, yeah, but these are people way before they're professionals. 3) Forming an opinion based on 140-character posts is kind of extrapolating based on a very small sample size. I understand that it's a lot of small samples, but you can't really have a discussion about the merits of a state-subsidized healthcare system versus a free market economy encapsulating said healthcare on twitter, ya know? You have to take the medium into account. Some of my facebook posts/discussions are exactly that, and some are, "Woohoo! Taco Bell opening up a half mile from here!" They're both written by the same person, but one's a little more indicative of my priorities. 4) You are a thousand percent right about using social media as a tool to use as a background check for employment. I'd do the same exact thing that you said. However, I think that you're forgetting what he's paid to do: stop that guy with that oblong ball thing from going into the painted grass. Not exactly as important as being a teacher. Also, Shanahan and company did a crap ton of research of all of these players, and one of the things that stood out in all of them was their leadership in the locker room. I'll take that with some dumb tweets. 5) If Riggins or Jurgensen or Pat Fischer had twitter accounts, I'm sure that people would be displeased with things that they were reading, too. Sometimes we like to put these guys on a pedestal because, to us, they're football players and have a sort of majesty inherent to their profession that we don't like to have shattered. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skinfan2k Posted May 31, 2011 Share Posted May 31, 2011 i have heard rumors that he doesn't want to come to these practice to avoid risking injury. Well at least show up and support your teammates Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HLF Posted May 31, 2011 Share Posted May 31, 2011 There's alot of talented people that arent the smartest individuals in real life so as far as im concerned him getting sacks>>>>>his tweets Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Conn Posted May 31, 2011 Share Posted May 31, 2011 :doh: Ugh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewCliche21 Posted May 31, 2011 Share Posted May 31, 2011 i have heard rumors that he doesn't want to come to these practice to avoid risking injury. Well at least show up and support your teammates I mean, I guess that you can nitpick that if you want. However, if you aren't signed to a team (he's not), and you don't have health insurance (he may under his parents, but he doesn't himself), and you're one play away from losing your livelihood, then you'll think twice about the practice. And, on topic, I'll take this over Twitter: he 6-foot-3, 309-pound Jenkins played defensive tackle for the Tigers, but also has the ability to play end in the 3-4, which is where the Redskins plan on using him. “They told me they run a 3-4 defense under Mike Shanahan, and they told me I’m going to be a two-gap guy, and I can do that: two-gap or three,” Jenkins said. “I can get in and do whatever anybody asks me . . . I’m all about winning. I’ll sit there on two knees if that’s what they want me to do.”Describing his strengths, Jenkins said: “I’m more of a run-stopper. I’m physical at the point of attack. I can take double-teams, and I can beat double-teams. I’ve been seeing them all through Clemson. I’ve got to work more on the pass-rush part. . . . I’m the kind of guy that does the dirty work.” Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Llevron Posted May 31, 2011 Share Posted May 31, 2011 Don't like the guys posts.....don't read 'em. Sounds simple enough. Believe it or not, the FO didn't draft him so high because his twitter account checked out. OP is just silly. Do something with your time instead of twi****ching lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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