alwaysaskin Posted April 30, 2011 Share Posted April 30, 2011 I was impressed with Helu last year and I was hoping we would get a shot at him, Shanny likes him, and I think that he will be a solid contributor to the Offense Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rebornempowered Posted April 30, 2011 Share Posted April 30, 2011 The pass blocking thing is ridiculous and an example of someone talking until they think of something to say. I said this in the draft day thread but I am going to repeat it. The sample is so small to go from that there is no real way to ascertain this. 1) He would have to be on the field (NU is RB by committee). 2) He would have to not have been one of the potential receivers (Helu is very good out of the backfield). 3) Nebraska very, very rarely passes. How can anyone possibly really know anything about Roy Helu's pass blocking ability? He may suck at it but we really cannot know this for certain. He is a great athlete with a good attitude. They can coach him up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrabR Posted April 30, 2011 Share Posted April 30, 2011 I have always thought the combine and senior bowl was no real way to evaluate talent. The college play is much more revealing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paloosa Posted April 30, 2011 Share Posted April 30, 2011 I think that Shanahan has a good track record when it comes to RB's and in the Nebraska offense isn't anything like it was in previous years. So their RB's aren't bruisers like years past under Osbourne. I like the pick and could be our next starter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RawBBQSauce Posted April 30, 2011 Share Posted April 30, 2011 They should ahve never traded up for him. Should have kept their 3 picksmoves I do not like so far. These were all over reaches IMHO Jarvis Jenkins Roy Helu Dejon Gomes Just because Kiper and McShay consider them to be a reach, it doesn't make them a reach. Look at the Patriots. These "analysts" criticize their FO for reaching on players...let's see...the Pats were 14-2 last year with a roster loaded with "reach" players. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redskinizzle Posted April 30, 2011 Share Posted April 30, 2011 Yes. One of those two. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doctor ToughLove Posted April 30, 2011 Share Posted April 30, 2011 Did we really need to trade up?? In the fourth round?? To get Nebraska RB Roy Helu?? I don't think so. I love how they traded down in the draft repeatedly or stayed put until this point. Oh well, someone in management must have had a man-crush. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A Skinhead in Saints Land Posted April 30, 2011 Share Posted April 30, 2011 Obviously they felt they needed to trade up. I doubt they did it just for sport. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
icbmayday Posted April 30, 2011 Share Posted April 30, 2011 I think him and Torrain will be a perfect one two punch Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doctor ToughLove Posted April 30, 2011 Share Posted April 30, 2011 Obviously THEY felt they needed to draft up (because they did). The point is does anyone else think so. (you know, the forum folks??) I don't think so. You, yourself didn't say. (or defend the choice at that slot, except to express "in management we trust" mentality... which really is not a true defense of the pick, just a 'go-along') Your welcomed to make a defense though... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KevinthePRF Posted April 30, 2011 Share Posted April 30, 2011 I just watched some video on youtube against Missouri and this kid looks like he could be a perfect for 3rd down long yard situations. He reminds me of little Joe Washington from a few years back. A few years?? Lol! How about a couple decades? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Conn Posted April 30, 2011 Share Posted April 30, 2011 Did we really need to trade up?? In the fourth round?? To get Nebraska RB Roy Helu??I don't think so. I love how they traded down in the draft repeatedly or stayed put until this point. Oh well, someone in management must have had a man-crush. Four or five RB's were picked between the Helu pick and our original #30 pick in that round. They knew a run on RB's was coming, and they moved up, took the guy they preferred. You always want to be at the front of any run on a position, to get your guy. ---------- Post added April-30th-2011 at 05:28 PM ---------- Obviously THEY felt they needed to draft up (because they did). The point is does anyone else think so. (you know, the forum folks??)I don't think so. You, yourself didn't say. (or defend the choice at that slot, except to express "in management we trust" mentality... which really is not a true defense of the pick, just a 'go-along') Your welcomed to make a defense though... See above for my defense of the pick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MartinC Posted April 30, 2011 Share Posted April 30, 2011 He is known for being a terrible pass blocking back which limits his usefulness on 3rd down. The only way this guy is a "future star" is if the OLine can be good enough to allow him to run a one cut system successfully. The OL still concerns me though. We don't have a starting Right Tackle under contract IMO for next year. Or centre or right guard ...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doctor ToughLove Posted April 30, 2011 Share Posted April 30, 2011 Originally Posted by Destino He is known for being a terrible pass blocking back which limits his usefulness on 3rd down. The only way this guy is a "future star" is if the OLine can be good enough to allow him to run a one cut system successfully. The OL still concerns me though. We don't have a starting Right Tackle under contract IMO for next year. Or centre or right guard ...... Yeah offensive line & thus offense is going to be a big problem (can't believe we drafted NOTHING in the OL department (except our second 7th rounder?? holy S man!!) DESTINO: what do you think of J.Brown? Do you think he can return to form after his first season back from a season ending injury? I'm not saying that he will, but I think our hands are tied and we have to let it play out for better or worse. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bubble Screen Posted April 30, 2011 Share Posted April 30, 2011 They should ahve never traded up for him. Should have kept their 3 picksmoves I do not like so far. These were all over reaches IMHO Jarvis Jenkins Roy Helu Dejon Gomes I don't know much about Gomes, but don't sleep on Jenkins. He did alot of the "dirty" work at Clemson. He was every bit as valuable as Bowers, he just didn't get the recognition. With that said, it remains to be seen if he actually fits where they plan on playing him. Helu? Don't know much about him either. But I trust Shanny's judgement with late draft RBs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeSkins Posted April 30, 2011 Share Posted April 30, 2011 the falcons drafted brett favre whats your point There is a major distinction there. Glanville's regime drafted and dumped Favre. Shanahan wouldn't have dumped Hillis, so I'd still count Hillis as his find. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
praise_gibbs Posted April 30, 2011 Share Posted April 30, 2011 ZcZZAs7LbMc THIS will be are next star RB, Absolutely love this pick.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CRobi21 Posted May 1, 2011 Share Posted May 1, 2011 I think him and Torrain will be a perfect one two punch To be honest I'd rather have the rookies as the 1-2 punch with Helu the primary back and Royster coming in on 3rd downs. Royster is a good change of pace and is a good receiver out of the backfield. And then keep Torrain ready for those goal line carries as he's more of the big bruiser. With the rookies taking the bulk of the carries this will help to keep Torrain healthy, but still use his power to get into the endzone as we saw him do last year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeSkins Posted May 1, 2011 Share Posted May 1, 2011 To be honest I'd rather have the rookies as the 1-2 punch with Helu the primary back and Royster coming in on 3rd downs. Royster is a good change of pace and is a good receiver out of the backfield.And then keep Torrain ready for those goal line carries as he's more of the big bruiser. With the rookies taking the bulk of the carries this will help to keep Torrain healthy, but still use his power to get into the endzone as we saw him do last year. I don't know if I could justify Torain riding the pine after last season's flashes of production. I especially don't see it when Royster doesn't offer anything over Torain. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bibby Posted May 1, 2011 Share Posted May 1, 2011 Did we really need to trade up?? In the fourth round?? To get Nebraska RB Roy Helu??I don't think so. I love how they traded down in the draft repeatedly or stayed put until this point. Oh well, someone in management must have had a man-crush. Or they felt like a team ahead of them were going to take him. It's an unknown for all of us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CRobi21 Posted May 1, 2011 Share Posted May 1, 2011 I don't know if I could justify Torain riding the pine after last season's flashes of production. I especially don't see it when Royster doesn't offer anything over Torain. A good point. I think what it will come down to is the rookie's vision. Which I think was key to Torrain's success last year. He had that one cut downhill 10-15 yd gains a lot last year. If the rookies can find the holes as well as Torrain did, I think they both have the ability to take it a lot farther than 10-15 yd gains. And Torrain has yet to prove he can handle the bulk a whole season puts on a RB. We shall see. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RawBBQSauce Posted May 1, 2011 Share Posted May 1, 2011 I don't know if I could justify Torain riding the pine after last season's flashes of production. I especially don't see it when Royster doesn't offer anything over Torain. Agreed. Torain should be the primary ball carrier. Helu will work nicely as a change of pace guy. Royster will be a nice reserve. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soup's Uncle Posted May 1, 2011 Share Posted May 1, 2011 I think Helu could be pretty good. Reminds me of Torain. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CRobi21 Posted May 1, 2011 Share Posted May 1, 2011 The more I think about it actually, I think it will be a true running back by committee. All three bring something to the table that the other doesn't and I think they will compliment each other very very well. RB just became a major strength for us, imo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RawBBQSauce Posted May 1, 2011 Share Posted May 1, 2011 RB just became a major strength for us, imo. Maybe so, but I'm uneasy about the lack of potential holes opening up for these guys. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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