88Comrade2000 Posted March 25, 2011 Share Posted March 25, 2011 http://thehill.com/blogs/floor-action/senate/151765-cbo-says-taxing-drivers-based-on-miles-driven-a-real-option-for-raising-revenues Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G.A.C.O.L.B. Posted March 25, 2011 Share Posted March 25, 2011 Hmmm. I'm a delivery driver while I'm still in school now. I can't imagine they wouldn't account for people like me. And if that's true, I most certainly would prefer this to a larger gas tax which is completely indiscriminate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aREDSKIN Posted March 25, 2011 Share Posted March 25, 2011 Typical gov't thought process at work. Here in J'ville the local gov't mandated by the state and perhaps nudged by the Feds (not sure) mandated severe watering restrictions. Media campaigns all over the place- TV, print, radio direct mail etc telling you you can't water but1-2 days a week etc we Floridians need to CONSERVE water. One year later the local utility raises water rates by 20% because they claim they were not "selling"enough water. It's just unbelievable that we continue to elect moron after moron after moron or shyster after shyster after shyster or some combination of both. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mardi gras skin Posted March 25, 2011 Share Posted March 25, 2011 The report was requested by Senate Budget Committee Chairman Kent Conrad (D-N.D.), who held a hearing on transportation funding in early March. In that hearing, Transportation Secretary Ray LaHood said the Obama administration is hoping to spend $556 billion over the next six years, much of which would go to federal transportation improvement projects. How much of the stimulus package went to infrastructure? It seems like we could have addressed our infrastructure needs then. Hmmm. I'm a delivery driver while I'm still in school now. I can't imagine they wouldn't account for people like me. And if that's true, I most certainly would prefer this to a larger gas tax which is completely indiscriminate. As long as they tax other people instead of you, you're cool with it? Anyway, I disagree that we need a whole new tax stream. On how to implement the idea, CBO said it is unclear how much it would cost to "install metering equipment in all of the nation's cars and trucks." Uh huh. No thanks. I drive an SUV that consumes a lot of gas and I think we should just raise the gas tax if we need more in the Highway Trust Fund. No new overhead costs and it rewards less gas consumption. The Fund collects about $40 billion a year now. If the government needs $92 billion a year to maintain and expand our transit systems just raise the gas tax more than double to make up the difference. This would reward drivers of higher mileage cars, punishes those of us who driving gas guzzlers, and would quickly reduce our consumption of oil as consumers bought vehicles that consume less gas. Eventually, when receipts start to fall significantly because we are consuming a lot less gas, we can start taxing electric and hydrogen vehicles at whatever rate is needed to make up the difference in falling receipts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DRSmith Posted March 25, 2011 Share Posted March 25, 2011 Eventually, when receipts start to fall significantly because we are consuming a lot less gas, we can start taxing electric and hydrogen vehicles at whatever rate is needed to make up the difference in falling receipts. Or with more people car pooling or using trains and buses you may end up with less wear and tear and thus lower the cost of maintanence Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burgold Posted March 25, 2011 Share Posted March 25, 2011 Yeah, this is not a good idea. We pay our taxes already at the pump. Besides, I really don't like the intrusiveness of them monitoring our cars. Far too Big Brotherian for my tastes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twa Posted March 25, 2011 Share Posted March 25, 2011 Got to hit those trying to evade the gas taxes by going electric or high mpg. revenue enhancement my ass Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BALLz Posted March 25, 2011 Share Posted March 25, 2011 Seems like a slippery slope. I mean, how long til those devices used to measure mileage start being used to measure speed or find your location. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mardi gras skin Posted March 25, 2011 Share Posted March 25, 2011 Does the government offer tax breaks for companies that allow more of their employees to work from home? It seems like we could take a lot of cars off the road during peak hours if companies re-thought their workspace needs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AsburySkinsFan Posted March 25, 2011 Share Posted March 25, 2011 Don't like this at all. I don't like the intrusiveness I don't like more taxes I don't like the thought of the government tracking my driving, I don't like the idea that the government won't end these wars and yet cries how broke the nation is and instead of doing things that cut spending they dip deeper into my pocket to fund their waste. I don't mind paying my taxes, but when they won't cut the crap out of the budget then don't ask me to dig deeper. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teller Posted March 25, 2011 Share Posted March 25, 2011 Don't like this at all. I don't like the intrusiveness I don't like more taxes I don't like the thought of the government tracking my driving, I don't like the idea that the government won't end these wars and yet cries how broke the nation is and instead of doing things that cut spending they dip deeper into my pocket to fund their waste. I don't mind paying my taxes, but when they won't cut the crap out of the budget then don't ask me to dig deeper. If you and I agree something is a bad idea, you can be sure it's a bad idea. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AsburySkinsFan Posted March 25, 2011 Share Posted March 25, 2011 If you and I agree something is a bad idea, you can be sure it's a bad idea. You know that's right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corcaigh Posted March 25, 2011 Share Posted March 25, 2011 In addition to a gas tax, or energy consumption tax, a simple option to have vehicles pay more of their share toward road construction costs and maintenance is to pay a tax based on weight per axle. If I recall correctly, the relative damage to roads caused by heavier vehicles is the ratio of their weights to the fourth power. So, a vehicle with double the weight per axle does 16 times more damage. . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Destino Posted March 25, 2011 Share Posted March 25, 2011 No new ****ing taxes! In fact it's time to roll back property taxes (which shouldn't exist IMO) and give self employed folks a tax breaks that evens out the so called "self employment tax". While you're at it lower corporate taxes by a ton but seal every loop hole tight so that all of them pay and receive a penalty not a tax incentive for off shoring profits and jobs. This is yet another "trickle down" tax idea. Now you're going after people that drive a lot and SO THEY CAN AFFORD IT buy an efficient car. "tax the civic spare the SUV" thanks CBO! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mardi gras skin Posted March 25, 2011 Share Posted March 25, 2011 If I recall correctly, the relative damage to roads caused by heavier vehicles is the ratio of their weights to the fourth power. So, a vehicle with double the weight per axle does 16 times more damage. So we should maybe charge more for carpooling. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Busch1724 Posted March 25, 2011 Share Posted March 25, 2011 I don't know how about making large corporations actually pay taxes... http://www.nytimes.com/2011/03/25/business/economy/25tax.html?_r=2&hp That would be a good start. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
88Comrade2000 Posted March 26, 2011 Author Share Posted March 26, 2011 I don't like the invasion of privacy. All they need is a national sales tax. 50% towards paying off our debt and 50% towards government expenses. That along with spending cuts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seabee1973 Posted March 26, 2011 Share Posted March 26, 2011 no corporations pay taxes all taxes are paid by us the people. raiseing taxes on corporations just means us the people paying ot more in taxes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G.A.C.O.L.B. Posted March 26, 2011 Share Posted March 26, 2011 As long as they tax other people instead of you, you're cool with it? Absolutely. Gas prices are completely raping my life right now. I pay for my own gas for the most part and some days it's eating 50% of my pay. Other days I feel like I'm acually losing money. So yeah, screw a gas tax. Tax mileage and give me a break. (I really need a new job but with school four days a week, split between early-afternoon and evening classes, I can't get anything meaningful. And I'm not going to trade one **** job for another. Life's a *****.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IONTOP Posted March 26, 2011 Share Posted March 26, 2011 I fully support this.... Of course by that I mean, I'm buying a book on how to roll back odometers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chipwhich Posted March 26, 2011 Share Posted March 26, 2011 I fully support this.... Of course by that I mean, I'm buying a book on how to roll back odometers This response makes no sense in context of the thread. So you are rolling back your odometer, so you wont be reimbursed for your mileage, which pays for your gas, which means you are out of more money than had you gotten the mileage reimbursement and paid taxes on that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCsportsfan53 Posted March 26, 2011 Share Posted March 26, 2011 How about spending less money as a means of revenue enhancement as opposed to installing a GPS mileage/find you whenever we want to nanny device in our cars? I don't know, just a crazy thought. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chipwhich Posted March 26, 2011 Share Posted March 26, 2011 How about spending less money as a means of revenue enhancement as opposed to installing a GPS mileage/find you whenever we want to nanny device in our cars? I don't know, just a crazy thought. ?????? This is the raise tax not lower spending crowd. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thiebear Posted March 26, 2011 Share Posted March 26, 2011 So the people that can least afford to live close to the D.C. are have to spend an 2 hours+ a day in traffic. And now have to pay for each mile. Thats the worst way to get off oil. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IONTOP Posted March 26, 2011 Share Posted March 26, 2011 This response makes no sense in context of the thread. So you are rolling back your odometer, so you wont be reimbursed for your mileage, which pays for your gas, which means you are out of more money than had you gotten the mileage reimbursement and paid taxes on that? LOL WOW I'm an idiot... I thought the link said that they'd tax you for MILES THAT YOU DROVE... Therefore I was going to learn how to roll back odometers so that I wouldn't have to pay that tax... I'm such a drunk idiot Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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