MrSilverMaC Posted January 8, 2011 Author Share Posted January 8, 2011 UMC is supposed to hold a news conference soon. I am guessing they will say that she is still in surgery and in critical condition. I'll post what they say in the OP. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luckydevil Posted January 8, 2011 Share Posted January 8, 2011 Is totally out of contextCan't we at least count the bodies and treat the wounded before this crap? Wishful thinking. Get used to it. Hopefully, the surgery is successful, but the who gets blamed game has only just started. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PCS Posted January 8, 2011 Share Posted January 8, 2011 Fox has the Hospital PR person on line. She is saying the Congresswoman is alive and in surgery. She is confirming the head wound. I believe she stated that there are 9 total injured presently in the hospital. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duckus Posted January 8, 2011 Share Posted January 8, 2011 Wishful thinking. Get used to it. Hopefully, the surgery is successful, but the who gets blamed game has only just started. Well . . . . it should happen. Just not now, because no one knows anything and it not appropriate until things have settled. But after we find out details we should absolutely find out who did it and why, and what caused/lead them to do it. But this thread is not the place for that. This is for information on what has happened. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larry Posted January 8, 2011 Share Posted January 8, 2011 Well, alive beats the heck out of dead. "Head wound" can cover one heck of a lot, though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RansomthePasserby Posted January 8, 2011 Share Posted January 8, 2011 Well, alive beats the heck out of dead. "Head wound" can cover one heck of a lot, though. Yeah, "critical condition" doesn't sound good though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luckydevil Posted January 8, 2011 Share Posted January 8, 2011 Well . . . . it should happen. Just not now, because no one knows anything and it not appropriate until things have settled. But after we find out details we should absolutely find out who did it and why, and what caused/lead them to do it. Absolutely, that would be a appropriate conversation. I just fear an entire movement will be blamed and that's dangerous ( and I fear civil liberties will be under attack even more so than the current state). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DjTj Posted January 8, 2011 Share Posted January 8, 2011 She seems to be a very level-headed lawmaker. Yesterday, she was speaking out on a bill to cut Congressional salaries by 5%: http://politics.blogs.foxnews.com/2011/01/07/rep-urges-congress-lead-example-sponsors-bill-cut-lawmaker-salaries Her husband is a NASA Astronaut. Here's an interview from happier times: LKa5bTB63Fw Best wishes to her and her family. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larry Posted January 8, 2011 Share Posted January 8, 2011 Well . . . . it should happen. Just not now, because no one knows anything and it not appropriate until things have settled. But after we find out details we should absolutely find out who did it and why, and what caused/lead them to do it. Actually, I'm going to go way, way, off in theory-land, here. But I think a logical case could be made tha maybe we, as a society, would be better off if we never found out what the murderer's motive was. Especially if this was what I think of as a "publicity killing". For one thing, by putting the murderer's manifesto into the news cycle, you're giving every person who has a manifesto, a way to get it published. For another, in the case of terrorists, (people attempting to alter public actions through violence), publishing their statements is handing them the tool that they want: A tool with which to attempt to change society. (Even if society's reaction to terrorism is to do the opposite of what the terrorist says, you're still permitting the terrorist to manipulate you.) ---------- Now, I'm not certain that I'm as logical as that above argument. I'll admit to wanting to know what the guy claims his motive was. Just pointing out that finding out his motive, and publicizing it, is a two-edged sword. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RansomthePasserby Posted January 8, 2011 Share Posted January 8, 2011 Fox: Police are looking for a possible 2nd suspect. Also, 19 people have been shot with 5 fatalities. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baculus Posted January 8, 2011 Share Posted January 8, 2011 Please knock it off, its rather classless at this juncture I posted some information which pertains to a member of Congress that has just been shot -- and you don't think it's relevant?! Knock if off? Many of us have been decrying such violent rhetoric for months, and now we want to be "classy" and act as if this may have no connection? Our first reaction is to be sad. Our second reaction should be, "Now why would this happen?" I am only going by what we DO know in the months proceeding this shooting . . . EDIT: I don't want to merely politicize this tragic event, but many of us suspect the shooter was possibly politically motivated. If that is the case, then politics will be dragged into the discussion. Considering the possible context of the violence, that cannot be helped, and questions should be raised. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PCS Posted January 8, 2011 Share Posted January 8, 2011 CNN just got done reading a statement from the President. Said that they do know that some have died and that the Congresswoman has been "gravely" injured. Now that's a bad word. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vilandil Tasardur Posted January 8, 2011 Share Posted January 8, 2011 Yeah, "critical condition" doesn't sound good though. This isn't fair or appropriate at all, but gosh darn it I cant help myself. All I can think of is when we were praying and discussing Sean Taylor's "critical condition" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bang Posted January 8, 2011 Share Posted January 8, 2011 Are there any details about the actual method of shooting? That's a lot of people hit,, was it a drive-by with automatic weapons? Sounds like it, except that they had captured a suspect almost immediately... and apparently are seeking another? Was this guy on foot? ~Bang Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PCS Posted January 8, 2011 Share Posted January 8, 2011 Right now they're saying that it was a gunman on foot who ran in,pointed his gun,and started shooting,(witnesses say he shot from point blank range at the Congresswoman). He was then tackled by bystanders. Are there any details about the actual method of shooting?That's a lot of people hit,, was it a drive-by with automatic weapons? Sounds like it, except that they had captured a suspect almost immediately... and apparently are seeking another? Was this guy on foot? ~Bang Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bibby Posted January 8, 2011 Share Posted January 8, 2011 This won't suprise me if it's an illegal. What a shame. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DjTj Posted January 8, 2011 Share Posted January 8, 2011 Are there any details about the actual method of shooting?That's a lot of people hit,, was it a drive-by with automatic weapons? Sounds like it, except that they had captured a suspect almost immediately... and apparently are seeking another? Was this guy on foot? ~Bang It sounds like the gunman was on foot.Giffords, who in November narrowly won reelection to a third term, was hosting her first "Congress on Your Corner" event when a gunman ran up and began shooting her and others in her entourage with a Glock handgun, according to law enforcement sources. According to a local news report, Giffords was shot in the head at point-blank range. She was taken to University Medical Center in Tucson, but was reported to have been responsive immediately after the shooting. A hospital spokesperson told CNN that nine people had arrived and that all were in critical or serious condition, including a child. * * * NPR reported that Giffords was talking to a couple outside of a local Safeway when the suspect ran up and fired indiscriminately from about four feet away. The man, described by witnesses as in his late teens or early 20s, was tackled when he tried to flee the scene. Police confirmed that a young man was in custody in connection with the shooting. http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2011/01/08/AR2011010802422.html?hpid=topnews Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RansomthePasserby Posted January 8, 2011 Share Posted January 8, 2011 Are there any details about the actual method of shooting?That's a lot of people hit,, was it a drive-by with automatic weapons? Sounds like it, except that they had captured a suspect almost immediately... and apparently are seeking another? Was this guy on foot? ~Bang Apparently, someone walked up through the crowd, pulled out a gun, and started shooting people. It's rumored a person in the crowd returned fire and hit the gunman, and he was then taken into custody. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PCS Posted January 8, 2011 Share Posted January 8, 2011 Fox has Senator Linda Lopez on right now. She says that she's heard that Congresswoman Gifford has responded to commands and that there is hope she will pull through,but don't know what the long term effects could be. Bullet entered in one side of head,"temple",and out the other side. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mardi gras skin Posted January 8, 2011 Share Posted January 8, 2011 She's newly married isn't she? ugh. God what a horrible thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bang Posted January 8, 2011 Share Posted January 8, 2011 Wow. It's would seem to definitely be a hit ,, whether it's American politics or Mexican drug cartel, who knows. Either way, I think a lot of ****'s about to hit the big fan. You guys praying... while you pray for them, pray for us, too. ~Bang Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ixcuincle Posted January 8, 2011 Share Posted January 8, 2011 It's a shame politics has come to this So polarizing nowadays where congresswomen get shot Real shame Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spade Posted January 8, 2011 Share Posted January 8, 2011 This won't suprise me if it's an illegal. What a shame. O.o illegal what? Gun? Citizen? They have the man in custody i suggest u read. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RansomthePasserby Posted January 8, 2011 Share Posted January 8, 2011 Fox: A federal judge was shot and killed at the same event. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PCS Posted January 8, 2011 Share Posted January 8, 2011 They're reporting now that Federal Judge John Roll was killed in the shooting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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