NavyDave Posted January 9, 2011 Share Posted January 9, 2011 I see a situation like the one that just happened and try to solve it. You can't solve crazy but you can make it more difficult or damn near impossible for a person like this to buy a handgun. Those that stand in the way of that happening are more often than not "conservative" and thus not wholly unrelated to events like this regardless of the specific "beliefs" of the perpetrators and thus not beyond reproach as you believe. Yeah those evil conservatives should be on the wrong side of gun control as they are here in Metro DC so those compassionate Democrats can do home invasions, muggings,sexual assaults and carjackings without fear of being shot by a legal and registered firearm by the owner defending him or herself. :doh: But hey just lump evil and crazy with them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rodriggo Posted January 9, 2011 Share Posted January 9, 2011 Yep, Gabby Giffords was just that type of "conservative". That's why I used quotes. ---------- Post added January-9th-2011 at 11:13 AM ---------- Yeah those evil conservatives should be on the wrong side of gun control as they are here in Metro DC so those compassionate Democrats can do home invasions and carjackings without fear of being shot by a legal and registered firearm by the owner defending him or herself. :doh: So status quo, continuing to harp personal responsibility, against deaf ears is OK by you. Events like this, like what you mentioned in a previous post should have no consequences on our lives and personal safety? I disagree. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IHOPSkins Posted January 9, 2011 Share Posted January 9, 2011 ....... I think an exclusive focus on Palin is not appropriate here. Rather, I think that there is an environment being fostered by Palin and her ilk...... Obama's Pitchforkshttp://www.americanthinker.com/2009/08/obamas_pitchforks.html Obama Calls His Critics "Enemies" http://www.thenewamerican.com/index.php/usnews/politics/4993-obama-calls-his-critics-qenemiesq Angry Obama on tax cuts: GOP are “hostage takers,”........ http://hotair.com/archives/2010/12/07/angry-obama-on-tax-cuts-gop-are-hostage-takers-liberals-are-sanctimonious/ Palin's Ilk? Looks like Palin is in "GOOD" Company I agree that we should not focus on PALIN....She is not an Elected Official Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jnhay Posted January 9, 2011 Share Posted January 9, 2011 I think this is similar to the wackos that think that playing Doom played a big role in the Columbine shootings. Wackos are out there, and I don't think that we should watch every word we say just to appease those who will probably go nuts and kill people anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aREDSKIN Posted January 9, 2011 Share Posted January 9, 2011 Another- Senator Barack Obama was fund-raising Friday night in Philadelphia. But he was talking about “the Chicago way.” Channeling the mob drama, “The Untouchables,” Mr. Obama said in reference to the general election rumble with the Republicans: “If they bring a knife to the fight, we bring a gun.” http://thecaucus.blogs.nytimes.com/2008/06/14/obama-we-bring-a-gun/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
@DCGoldPants Posted January 9, 2011 Share Posted January 9, 2011 Guess this thread is going down the tubes. We're now with the "But the other guys did this, this and this". Take care, guys. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rodriggo Posted January 9, 2011 Share Posted January 9, 2011 I think this is similar to the wackos that think that playing Doom played a big role in the Columbine shootings. Wackos are out there, and I don't think that we should watch every word we say just to appease those who will probably go nuts and kill people anyway. I agree. The difference is that Doom is not a political entity with emotional AND legal influence over others. (actual or potential) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monte51Coleman Posted January 9, 2011 Share Posted January 9, 2011 Guess this thread is going down the tubes. . Like that is a surprise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cept One Posted January 9, 2011 Share Posted January 9, 2011 I see a situation like the one that just happened and try to solve it. You can't solve crazy but you can make it more difficult or damn near impossible for a person like this to buy a handgun. How exactly would you achieve this with out infringing on the millions of law abiding citizen's Right to Bear Arms? It is already illegal for a person who has been placed in a mental health facility against their will to purchase a firearm. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twa Posted January 9, 2011 Share Posted January 9, 2011 I agree. The difference is that Doom is not a political entity with emotional AND legal influence over others. (actual or potential) Funny I don't see you mentioning KOS which both targeted and put a bullseye on her Remember the Blue dogs are traitors and should be removed meme? Time for a break. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monte51Coleman Posted January 9, 2011 Share Posted January 9, 2011 “Gun control? We need bullet control! I think every bullet should cost 5,000 dollars. Because if a bullet cost five thousand dollar, we wouldn't have any innocent bystander .” ~ Chris Rock Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IHOPSkins Posted January 9, 2011 Share Posted January 9, 2011 Guess this thread is going down the tubes. We're now with the "But the other guys did this, this and this".Take care, guys. GUESS we should NOT hold the President of the US to a HIGHER standard than an UNELECTED PRIVATE CITIZEN? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jnhay Posted January 9, 2011 Share Posted January 9, 2011 I agree. The difference is that Doom is not a political entity with emotional AND legal influence over others. (actual or potential) The similarity is that one has nothing to do with the other. Any sane person would look at what Palin did and say it might have been insensitive, but don't look at it as a call to kill people. We need to focus on recognizing who the insane people are rather than just make our every move with the thought "I can't say this, this, or this because some weirdo might take it the wrong way." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
War Paint Posted January 9, 2011 Share Posted January 9, 2011 It's a terrible tragedy. Thankfully the congress woman might make a full recovery. When I first heard the story, they said she was killed. My prayers go out to the families affected by this. The nine year old girl who was killed was one of fifty babies born on 9/11/01. I found that kind of weird. I went to the killer's youtube channel and watched his videos. I couldn't make sense out of any of it. All of his currency rantings were too confusing. I don't know if it was something cryptic or just non-sense. I couldn't tell if he was unhappy with the currency, or wanted a new currency, or wanted everyone create their own currency, etc... I was just like "WTF is this dude talking about?" Now the question is, what is to come from this? My fear is this unfortunate event will be used to pass some type of draconian law. Whatever one's opinion on 9/11 is, nobody can deny that 9/11 was used to push through laws that infringe on the rights of the people (Patriot Act) and set the precedence of war in the middle east. Will this shooting lead to pat downs from the TSA at Walmart? Will it turn out the killer was influenced by something on the internet, so a law must be passed to crack down on the web? Will it lead to more gun laws? I guess we will have to wait and see. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jnhay Posted January 9, 2011 Share Posted January 9, 2011 It's a terrible tragedy. Thankfully the congress woman might make a full recovery.. Really? A FULL recovery? I find that hard to believe with a bullet having gone through her brain. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
War Paint Posted January 9, 2011 Share Posted January 9, 2011 “Gun control? We need bullet control! I think every bullet should cost 5,000 dollars. Because if a bullet cost five thousand dollar, we wouldn't have any innocent bystander .” ~ Chris Rock I like Chris Rock and find him funny. Unfortunately that idea won't work, because criminals will find a way to get their hands on bullets on the black market. Law abiding citizens will be the one screwed out of bullets. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burgold Posted January 9, 2011 Share Posted January 9, 2011 The similarity is that one has nothing to do with the other. Any sane person would look at what Palin did and say it might have been insensitive, but don't look at it as a call to kill people. We need to focus on recognizing who the insane people are rather than just make our every move with the thought "I can't say this, this, or this because some weirdo might take it the wrong way." That's because you're drawing the wrong parallel. The Doom thing didn't provoke Columbine, however, it's pretty undeniable that years of bullying did have an impact. Likewise, you can look at the language that's prevalent today and draw parallels. When on a daily basis you call someone "enemy, traitor, nazi, socialist," and demand that we must, "take this country back, stop them at all costs, prevent them from destroying the Constitution, instituting death panels" and literally a thousand other verbal assaults... it can have an effect. Now, you and I are strong enough and smart enough to filter most of that out, but even we fall prey to it at times as we repeat "talking points or believe in the evil of the "mainstream media" or the tyrant Pelosi. These things like drip torture can wear people down. You see it in ES conversations each day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
War Paint Posted January 9, 2011 Share Posted January 9, 2011 Really? A FULL recovery? I find that hard to believe with a bullet having gone through her brain. That's what I saw on the news when they were talking to a Doctor. Supposedly the part of the brain hit had nothing to do with the most vital parts of her system and motor skills. The Doctor said she should be able to rehab her way back to a normal life. She might have to take seizure medication. The doctor said it was a miracle how this turned out. The bullet exited the brain, so it didn't further complicate the surgery. It didn't hit any arteries or vessels to cause massive hemorrhaging. The Doctor said it was divine intervention. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NavyDave Posted January 9, 2011 Share Posted January 9, 2011 Funny I don't see you mentioning KOS which both targeted and put a bullseye on herRemember the Blue dogs are traitors and should be removed meme? You mean these?? http://www.dailykos.com/story/2009/7/18/754682/-We-caught-traitor-Blue-Dogs-on-video:-Mike-Rossothers-are-public-enemies As we move at breakneck speed into the final days and hours of the healthcare showdown, it's a ghastly feeling to be betrayed by some of our own, but that's exactly what's happening. We're going to identify the villains and put names and faces on these people thugs. Sadly, they call themselves Democrats. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoSkins561 Posted January 9, 2011 Share Posted January 9, 2011 Are people really this shallow? Pointing the finger in the general direction of Palin and company after learning this guy had mental issues, is just stupid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NavyDave Posted January 9, 2011 Share Posted January 9, 2011 Founder Of Daily Kos Politicizes Shooting Tragedy, Tweets “Mission Accomplished, Sarah Palin” Eyeblast TV/ The Blast (Media Research Center) ^ | 1/8/2011 | Joe Schoffstall Posted on 01/08/2011 1:38:39 PM PST by blog.Eyeblast.tv Liberal blogger and founder of the Daily Kos, Markos Moulitsas, tweeted “Mission Accomplished, Sarah Palin” after the horrific shooting at a grocery in Tuscon, Arizona that left Democratic Congresswoman Gabrielle Giffords in critical condition, took the lives of 6 people, and left 12 others injured. Moulitsas, who goes by the twitter handle @markos, politicized the situation placing the blame on Sarah Palin, the lowest level one could possibly hit. The following is a screen shot of his “Mission Accomplished, Sarah Palin” tweet. Click the image to enlarge. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thinking Skins Posted January 9, 2011 Share Posted January 9, 2011 I really think that blaming political rhetoric (even if the guy had been politically motivated) is just playing the blame game. I hated that stuff, and back when people were doing it I was afraid that it may inspire these type of events, but who knows where the line between whats gonna inspire these types of events and whats just gonna inspire somebody to get up off their couch and vote? Palin rose to fame as a "Mama Bear" who would shoot grizzlies in Alaska. In that context, her gun talk was somewhat understood by her base as not being inspired to incite real violence. Saying that she wanted to have these types of events happen is no better than her saying that Obama wants to kill grandma or that he's a secret terrorist. That being said, there is a reason I went to the rally to restore sanity. I'm not a fan of any of this excessive talk and this blame game stuff. I'm a much bigger fan of being able to have intellectual discourse on issues so we can talk about where we disagree and possible solutions to it. But I also realize that the world doesn't always act like academia, and there isn't always a 'right' answer as there is in math. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FanboyOf91 Posted January 9, 2011 Share Posted January 9, 2011 This thread -> :toilet: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aREDSKIN Posted January 9, 2011 Share Posted January 9, 2011 Founder Of Daily Kos Politicizes Shooting Tragedy, Tweets “Mission Accomplished, Sarah Palin”Eyeblast TV/ The Blast (Media Research Center) ^ | 1/8/2011 | Joe Schoffstall Posted on 01/08/2011 1:38:39 PM PST by blog.Eyeblast.tv Liberal blogger and founder of the Daily Kos, Markos Moulitsas, tweeted “Mission Accomplished, Sarah Palin” after the horrific shooting at a grocery in Tuscon, Arizona that left Democratic Congresswoman Gabrielle Giffords in critical condition, took the lives of 6 people, and left 12 others injured. Moulitsas, who goes by the twitter handle @markos, politicized the situation placing the blame on Sarah Palin, the lowest level one could possibly hit. The following is a screen shot of his “Mission Accomplished, Sarah Palin” tweet. Click the image to enlarge. As was posted earlier in this thread. Courtesy of one Mr. Markos Moulitsas via his own website DailyKos. The unequivocal hypocrisy is palpable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkinsHokieFan Posted January 9, 2011 Share Posted January 9, 2011 Let us be honest If Jared Lee Loughner was a Muslim, wouldn't we be calling him a terrorist at this point? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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