Skin'emAlive Posted January 17, 2019 Share Posted January 17, 2019 We have a better shot at trading for a guy like AD and retaining him than getting him on the open market. EG is going nowhere. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Going Commando Posted January 17, 2019 Share Posted January 17, 2019 If you trade Wall then you need to start over. Beal is not good enough to be the #1 for a contender. We'd just stay stuck in 45 win purgatory, spinning our wheels until Beal fell out of favor next. We'd be further away than ever from bringing in another AS who can compete within the same window as Beal in order for make the leap to the same echelon as Toronto/Milwaukee/Boston/Philly. Those rosters go ten deep in quality too. How do we get there? Pray that we somehow get Zion and he is insanely good immediately in his career? We need to be realistic, dealing Wall means a full rebuild is necessary. If we didn't tear it all of the way down, and decided to just try to run John out of town, blame him for everything, and retool around Beal and a couple of role players, then we're going to be having this exact same conversation about him in four years that we're currently having about Wall. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hersh Posted January 17, 2019 Share Posted January 17, 2019 1 hour ago, stevemcqueen1 said: If you trade Wall then you need to start over. Beal is not good enough to be the #1 for a contender. We'd just stay stuck in 45 win purgatory, spinning our wheels until Beal fell out of favor next. We'd be further away than ever from bringing in another AS who can compete within the same window as Beal in order for make the leap to the same echelon as Toronto/Milwaukee/Boston/Philly. Those rosters go ten deep in quality too. How do we get there? Pray that we somehow get Zion and he is insanely good immediately in his career? We need to be realistic, dealing Wall means a full rebuild is necessary. If we didn't tear it all of the way down, and decided to just try to run John out of town, blame him for everything, and retool around Beal and a couple of role players, then we're going to be having this exact same conversation about him in four years that we're currently having about Wall. What do you think the Wiz could get in return for Wall? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Destino Posted January 17, 2019 Share Posted January 17, 2019 2 hours ago, stevemcqueen1 said: If you trade Wall then you need to start over. Beal is not good enough to be the #1 for a contender. We'd just stay stuck in 45 win purgatory, spinning our wheels until Beal fell out of favor next. We'd be further away than ever from bringing in another AS who can compete within the same window as Beal in order for make the leap to the same echelon as Toronto/Milwaukee/Boston/Philly. Those rosters go ten deep in quality too. How do we get there? Pray that we somehow get Zion and he is insanely good immediately in his career? We need to be realistic, dealing Wall means a full rebuild is necessary. If we didn't tear it all of the way down, and decided to just try to run John out of town, blame him for everything, and retool around Beal and a couple of role players, then we're going to be having this exact same conversation about him in four years that we're currently having about Wall. Wall isn’t good enough to be the #1 on a contender. If he was we’d have seen it by now. With him as the best player, the team never won 50 games. Wall hasn’t even shot .400 or better from the field in a second round playoff series, and only twice in the first round. That’s your #1 option on a title contender? I don’t see it. I love Wall, but I’d love him a lot more as the 3rd option. He doesn’t have the scoring tools to be the #1 option in this era. Wall at his best was better than Beal, but how often can Wall be predicted to be at his best going forward? What’s his average game look like now and for how long can he maintain it? At the end of this season he’ll have played in just 73 games in two seasons. I have serious concerns about pinning my hopes on an highly paid often injured point guard leading a broken locker room. It feels like I’ve already seen this movie and the ending sucks. Beal has a smaller contract, is younger, and has been far healthier lately. He also shows up in great shape at the start of the season, which shouldn’t be an issue but sadly has become one. If we’re picking one of our current guys to keep and hopefully pair with another star in the future, Beal is that guy. He fits any offense, can play next to any kind of player, and he’s only getting better. There’s a reason he has the most trade value, and that reason is because other teams would rather have him than Wall right now. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rocky21 Posted January 17, 2019 Share Posted January 17, 2019 Don't forget guys. We play at 3PM today (Thursday). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warhead36 Posted January 17, 2019 Share Posted January 17, 2019 14 hours ago, stevemcqueen1 said: If you trade Wall then you need to start over. Beal is not good enough to be the #1 for a contender. We'd just stay stuck in 45 win purgatory, spinning our wheels until Beal fell out of favor next. We'd be further away than ever from bringing in another AS who can compete within the same window as Beal in order for make the leap to the same echelon as Toronto/Milwaukee/Boston/Philly. Those rosters go ten deep in quality too. How do we get there? Pray that we somehow get Zion and he is insanely good immediately in his career? We need to be realistic, dealing Wall means a full rebuild is necessary. If we didn't tear it all of the way down, and decided to just try to run John out of town, blame him for everything, and retool around Beal and a couple of role players, then we're going to be having this exact same conversation about him in four years that we're currently having about Wall. I'm not 100% sure. Lets say we trade Wall and get some cap relief and young assets, and land a stud in the draft(we'll probably have a high lotto pick). I think that puts us in a better position long term then relying on a now injury prone and soon to be 30 year old John Wall. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CRobi21 Posted January 17, 2019 Share Posted January 17, 2019 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CRobi21 Posted January 17, 2019 Share Posted January 17, 2019 (edited) Hey at least they got their first "home game" sell out of the year... Edited January 17, 2019 by CRobi21 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Destino Posted January 17, 2019 Share Posted January 17, 2019 Knicks are shooting threes with their eyes closed and hitting them. Normally I’m pointing towards poor defense, but the wizards have actually been out on the perimeter. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Going Commando Posted January 17, 2019 Share Posted January 17, 2019 Good passing, good finish from Sato. Brad looks like he's starting to get into the flow of the game too. Could be a big second half from him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Going Commando Posted January 17, 2019 Share Posted January 17, 2019 Lol. I like the polite English claps for the kitschy halftime performances. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Going Commando Posted January 17, 2019 Share Posted January 17, 2019 Every single time we play Hardaway he's good for like 8 threes. Painful watching Ariza try and create offense from the perimeter off the dribble. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
purbeast Posted January 17, 2019 Share Posted January 17, 2019 Damn this team not only gets embarrassed all over the USA, but now they are getting embarrassed in Europe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Destino Posted January 17, 2019 Share Posted January 17, 2019 17 minutes ago, stevemcqueen1 said: Painful watching Ariza try and create offense from the perimeter off the dribble. It really is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Destino Posted January 17, 2019 Share Posted January 17, 2019 32 minutes ago, purbeast said: Damn this team not only gets embarrassed all over the USA, but now they are getting embarrassed in Europe. Lead has shrunk to 1. Might steal this one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
purbeast Posted January 17, 2019 Share Posted January 17, 2019 Just now, Destino said: Lead has shrunk to 1. Might steal this one. Yeah crazy how they were down by 8 like a minute ago and now down by 1. Beal with a 3, then Porter, then Beal again. It was really weird getting home today at 4pm and watching the second quarter of a Wizards game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Destino Posted January 17, 2019 Share Posted January 17, 2019 Brooks is such a dumbass. Knicks put in a big to counter us going small, Brooks doesn’t put anyone in that can body up in the post, Knicks regain the lead. Wizards win on a goal tending call! Thomas Bryant took the last shot! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ixcuincle Posted January 17, 2019 Share Posted January 17, 2019 Wizards have won! Goaltend ruled at the buzzer! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Destino Posted January 17, 2019 Share Posted January 17, 2019 (edited) Call reviewed. Goal tending stands, but 0.4 on the clock. Game not over. edit: Wizards win! I never doubted them. Beal and Bryant, our new dynamic duo comes through in the clutch. Edited January 17, 2019 by Destino Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ixcuincle Posted January 17, 2019 Share Posted January 17, 2019 Wizards win. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skin'emAlive Posted January 17, 2019 Share Posted January 17, 2019 This franchise is a joke. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
purbeast Posted January 17, 2019 Share Posted January 17, 2019 Well that was unexpected lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CRobi21 Posted January 17, 2019 Share Posted January 17, 2019 31 minutes ago, Skin'emAlive said: This franchise is a joke. Hey the owner himself said today the plan has always been to "get into the playoffs, get passed the 2nd round, and try to get lucky." Does that not sound like a winning formula to you?! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Destino Posted January 17, 2019 Share Posted January 17, 2019 16 minutes ago, CRobi21 said: Hey the owner himself said today the plan has always been to "get into the playoffs, get passed the 2nd round, and try to get lucky." Does that not sound like a winning formula to you?! To be fair, this is the first year we’ve had to wonder what eastern conference team would be in the finals since 2011. Since then, get past the second round and hope to get lucky was every team’s plan. Ted knows this team isn’t a contender, but maybe he’s hoping these guys can prove something to themselves by making a playoff run without Wall. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Going Commando Posted January 18, 2019 Share Posted January 18, 2019 Bryant was pumped. Really like that kid. I hope we don't strangle the passion and fun out of basketball for him. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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