Bozo the kKklown Posted April 3, 2016 Share Posted April 3, 2016 That's idiotic Just for salary purposes, a pick is better. And you control that player for at least 6 years Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fergasun Posted April 3, 2016 Share Posted April 3, 2016 Morris is a starting right now stretch 4 talent. A draft pick is a sitting one year, bench player 2nd year, if stars align role player in 3 years. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Destino Posted April 4, 2016 Share Posted April 4, 2016 Morris is a starting right now stretch 4 talent. A draft pick is a sitting one year, bench player 2nd year, if stars align role player in 3 years. You can't look at it in a vacuum. It's a cumulative problem with getting less than necessary from the draft. Over time this becomes more and more of a problem as the team needs to continue trading either spending too much or trading assets to cover the holes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skin'emAlive Posted April 4, 2016 Share Posted April 4, 2016 The biggest problem is that our coach has red-shirted all of our young talent 1-2 seasons each save for wall and beal. On a team that has been terribly injured all season long, one would think oubre and Eddie, players occupying valuable roster spots, would have played much more than they have. I truly believe a good coach gets us 50 wins with the same roster. I still want eg gone though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheItalianStallion Posted April 4, 2016 Share Posted April 4, 2016 Valiant effort in both this and the GS games. If this effort had been there against Sacramento and Minny, we'd have won those games. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Destino Posted April 4, 2016 Share Posted April 4, 2016 I think a better coach could have gotten much better results but not by relying on rookies and young players. That's not how things work in the NBA. The offense is poorly designed, his subs are a mess, he doesn't know how to use time outs, the team is constantly lost on defense, and they still can't draw up an inbound play to save their lives. Wittmans strength was coaching defense and that fell apart this season. I do agree that he's not played young players enough. Only that success wasn't found or lost in that area. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperBash Posted April 4, 2016 Share Posted April 4, 2016 Fresh thinking. Fresh ideas. Fresh start. That's what this team needs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Destino Posted April 4, 2016 Share Posted April 4, 2016 It needs polish and consistency. It needs to finally mature from talented group to professional group set on winning every time they step on the court. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skin'emAlive Posted April 4, 2016 Share Posted April 4, 2016 I don't mean playing rookies would have saved this team. Rather playing a natural 3 and a combo 3 over the 3/4 guard lineups staring temple/sessions/neal that was repeatedly used for about half the season would have been addition by subtraction. Not only would we have performed better than the all guard lineups that produced defensive drives, but the rookies would have gained extremely important experience. Now they will basically have lost a year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Destino Posted April 4, 2016 Share Posted April 4, 2016 I don't mean playing rookies would have saved this team. Rather playing a natural 3 and a combo 3 over the 3/4 guard lineups staring temple/sessions/neal that was repeatedly used for about half the season would have been addition by subtraction. Not only would we have performed better than the all guard lineups that produced defensive drives, but the rookies would have gained extremely important experience. Now they will basically have lost a year. I agree and I think it's part of a larger pattern with Wittman. Randy loves to screw with the game of young players, including irrationally pushing them away from their natural positions on the floor. I don't think this has ever helped. Otto was a cutting machine that got open looks easily and frequently when sharing the floor with Wall, seemed like he finally found his role. Naturally Wittman decided that the kid that weighed as much as his guards should try some time at PF. When that failed Wittman decided that he could be a spot up shooter and glued him to the floor outside of the three line. Why? Well to free up Beal of course, because why would you want your best often injured shooter shooting threes? Much better to send him crashing to the rim, with predictable results, and let Otto's confidence die on the perimeter. Unless a player looks like a star immediately he seems to revel in beating them down. Especially by denying them playing time and crushing their confidence with a quick hook followed by a long period of not seeing the floor at all. Young players all make mistakes, all miss defensive assignments, and all take bad shots. Wall and Beal did a ton of this, but I don't think he was allowed to screw with them. Those same protections have clearly not been extended to Otto and Oubre. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StillUnknown Posted April 4, 2016 Share Posted April 4, 2016 (edited) I actually agree with this. Michael LeeVerified account@MrMichaelLee Michael Lee That draft pick isn't that big of a deal. Markieff Morris is pretty good & a lot better investment over next 3 years Grunfeld agrees also A competent GM gets Morris and keeps the damn draft pick. It ain't that complicated Edited April 4, 2016 by StillUnknown 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kosher Ham Posted April 4, 2016 Share Posted April 4, 2016 It needs polish and consistency. It needs to finally mature from talented group to professional group set on winning every time they step on the court. I was just thinking about that mentality the other day in regards to the Jordan led Bulls. I recall a video/interview (wish I could remember who) where a player was talking about the Bulls and basically said, ' when they walked out for warm-ups they had an aura to make you think that they would not lose'. I think that 69 win Lakers team had that, the 72 win Bulls team had that, and I think the Warriors have that now. Wizards need that. Heck, the Redskins need that as well. That confidence, that fear put into the opponent. I don't think they will have that with the current situation. I think most teams fear the Warriors, Spurs, and to a lesser extent the Cavs. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burgold Posted April 4, 2016 Share Posted April 4, 2016 Wizards need that. Heck, the Redskins need that as well. That confidence, that fear put into the opponent. I don't think they will have that with the current situation. I think most teams fear the Warriors, Spurs, and to a lesser extent the Cavs. The Redskins have at least taken that first step. Now, when opponents take the field they are thinking "We're going to be in a game. We're going to get hit." It's a long distance from being afraid of the 'skins, but they've also come pretty far forward from the team that everyone checked off as an automatic and easy win. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RonArtest15 Posted April 4, 2016 Share Posted April 4, 2016 You can't look at it in a vacuum. It's a cumulative problem with getting less than necessary from the draft. Over time this becomes more and more of a problem as the team needs to continue trading either spending too much or trading assets to cover the holes. I agree. It's not so much the Morris trade was bad (which it wasn't)...it's just that our GM has a history of botching/disregarding draft picks. This is a HUGE summer because there will be a lot of roster and front office turnover. There will be money to spend, so I hope we have a fresh pair of eyes to oversee what needs to be done going forward. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CRobi21 Posted April 5, 2016 Share Posted April 5, 2016 Can Jay Wright be pried away from Villanova? Lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Going Commando Posted April 5, 2016 Share Posted April 5, 2016 Grunfeld agrees also A competent GM gets Morris and keeps the damn draft pick. It ain't that complicated Phoenix was in a desperate spot with Morris and needed to dump him. We paid full price. But even without considering that context, the Morris trade was a deadline desperation move to save the season and it didn't work. Not to mention Kieff has a history of being a headcase and could blow up on us at any point over the next few seasons. There is that fun little element of risk to the trade too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StillUnknown Posted April 5, 2016 Share Posted April 5, 2016 Phoenix was in a desperate spot with Morris and needed to dump him. We paid full price. But even without considering that context, the Morris trade was a deadline desperation move to save the season and it didn't work. Not to mention Kieff has a history of being a headcase and could blow up on us at any point over the next few seasons. There is that fun little element of risk to the trade too. like it has been mentioned by others, you can't look at the trade by itself. its the continuing practice of Grunfeld playing from behind. There is not an ounce of vision in the man. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TradeTheBeal! Posted April 5, 2016 Share Posted April 5, 2016 Can Jay Wright be pried away from Villanova? Lol Yes. Absolutely yes. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Going Commando Posted April 5, 2016 Share Posted April 5, 2016 like it has been mentioned by others, you can't look at the trade by itself. its the continuing practice of Grunfeld playing from behind. There is not an ounce of vision in the man. Or ambition. His highest ambition is to have fun and do just well enough to keep his job. Five seeds and 45 win seasons for the rest of his career would suit him fine. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StillUnknown Posted April 5, 2016 Share Posted April 5, 2016 (edited) https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/wizards-insider/wp/2016/04/05/ernie-grunfeld-is-under-contract-for-next-season-indicating-hell-be-back-as-wizards-president/?postshare=8761459877117081&tid=ss_tw Coach Randy Wittman’s future is uncertain because next season — the final year of his three-year contract — is only partially guaranteed, but President Ernie Grunfeld is under contract for next season, according to a league source with knowledge of the situation, which strongly suggests that he will return for his 14th season as the franchise’s general manger. It is not known when owner Ted Leonsis and Grunfeld agreed to the extension. Edited April 5, 2016 by StillUnknown 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taylor703 Posted April 5, 2016 Share Posted April 5, 2016 I won't be watching after this season. I'm done. **** Ted. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ixcuincle Posted April 5, 2016 Share Posted April 5, 2016 Are they still giving away John wall bobbleheads this Sunday Can Jay Wright be pried away from Villanova? LolWhy would he want to come here Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CRobi21 Posted April 5, 2016 Share Posted April 5, 2016 (edited) Hopefully Wall gets out of here as soon as he can. Edited April 5, 2016 by STBonecrusher21 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperBash Posted April 5, 2016 Share Posted April 5, 2016 Saw that on another thread haha 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Destino Posted April 5, 2016 Share Posted April 5, 2016 Grunfeld is Vinny Cerrato tight with the owner and Jim Haslett cool with the press. Only he's managed to hold on for over a decade like some kind of curse. A fan card movement wouldn't hurt, but the media wouldn't be on board, an there are enough schmucks that parrot what they read that they'd probably start a support petition. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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