icbmayday Posted February 11, 2010 Share Posted February 11, 2010 Bradford dropping to 9 that's interesting Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigMike21 Posted February 11, 2010 Share Posted February 11, 2010 Bradford dropping to 9 that's interesting Well if we don't choose him the only other team I could see drafting a QB by #9 is Seattle at #6. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Robert Griffin Experience Posted February 11, 2010 Share Posted February 11, 2010 a bunch of nonsense you mean people guess wrong on QBs? especially when there's an institutional tendency across all sports to get enamored with measurables and "upside" rather than fundamentals and skill? so they take the $5 arm with the $0.10 brain, or the guy with gaudy stats in a spread offense and are surprised when he fails? or the guy with a baseball windup? gms draft QB busts for 3 reasons 1: they fall in love with his physical profile and overlook the fact that he sucks at playing the position 2: they take a guy who seemingly has it all but a ****ty work ethic or attitude or mental makeup 3: they take a guy from a pure spread school (not all spread offenses are created equal - different ones require different things in terms of footwork, reading defense and such. and don't even bring up bradford getting pre-snap reads from coaches - very, very few QBs in college make their own pre-snap reads, i'd be suprised if somoene like peyton did) basically, it's actually not that hard to avoid QB busts but the problem is that scouts have a bit of "group-think" in them and once a consensus is reached that a guy will be a stud, it's hard to break away from it. that's why a guy like jamarcus goes #1, and a guy like brady goes in the 6th round or brees in the 2nd. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DallasSucks19922010 Posted February 11, 2010 Share Posted February 11, 2010 All mock drafts are stupid because there has never been a draft without trades. To give them any creedence, just list the overall talent board and list the teams that need this specific player. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewCliche21 Posted February 11, 2010 Share Posted February 11, 2010 You forgot Jason Campbell on this list. Oh Jesus Christ. Can you keep that bull**** out of this thread and every other that's not explicitly about him? Your point is beaten to death. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brett81 Posted February 11, 2010 Share Posted February 11, 2010 ...Jim Druckenmiller Rick Mirer Andre Ware Patrick Ramsey Jim Druckenmiller Todd Marinovich Dan McGwire... You really don't like Jim Druckenmiller do you...to have listed him twice? Poor Jim... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Genghis Khan Posted February 11, 2010 Share Posted February 11, 2010 It doesnt matter what his mock draft says now everything will become more clear after the combine when everybodys stock rises and falls. That will give us a better idea of who we will draft. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmk588 Posted February 11, 2010 Share Posted February 11, 2010 pretty accurate.. *sarcasm* Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheLongshot Posted February 11, 2010 Share Posted February 11, 2010 you mean people guess wrong on QBs? especially when there's an institutional tendency across all sports to get enamored with measurables and "upside" rather than fundamentals and skill? so they take the $5 arm with the $0.10 brain, or the guy with gaudy stats in a spread offense and are surprised when he fails? or the guy with a baseball windup? gms draft QB busts for 3 reasons 1: they fall in love with his physical profile and overlook the fact that he sucks at playing the position 2: they take a guy who seemingly has it all but a ****ty work ethic or attitude or mental makeup 3: they take a guy from a pure spread school (not all spread offenses are created equal - different ones require different things in terms of footwork, reading defense and such. and don't even bring up bradford getting pre-snap reads from coaches - very, very few QBs in college make their own pre-snap reads, i'd be suprised if somoene like peyton did) basically, it's actually not that hard to avoid QB busts but the problem is that scouts have a bit of "group-think" in them and once a consensus is reached that a guy will be a stud, it's hard to break away from it. that's why a guy like jamarcus goes #1, and a guy like brady goes in the 6th round or brees in the 2nd. There is also a lot of pressure on a team who doesn't have a QB to take one, since if they pass they are probably going to get nailed by the press and fans for it, especially if the guy they passed on turns out to be something. I'm fine drafting a guy and I'm fine passing as well, as long as they are doing it for the right reasons. The good thing, at least as of right now, we shouldn't be desperate to be drafting the next guy. The team does have the luxury to choose a QB for the right reasons. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
illone Posted February 11, 2010 Share Posted February 11, 2010 Who's laughing? Davis at four is legit and will help the redskins win ball games. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mistertim Posted February 11, 2010 Share Posted February 11, 2010 3: they take a guy from a pure spread school (not all spread offenses are created equal - different ones require different things in terms of footwork, reading defense and such. and don't even bring up bradford getting pre-snap reads from coaches - very, very few QBs in college make their own pre-snap reads, i'd be suprised if somoene like peyton did) Actually one of the biggest attributes Peyton was praised for was his ability to adjust to defensive looks and read defenses. He was much more cerebral than Leaf (by far, it turns out). Yes, not all spread systems are the same, but Manning took a lot of snaps from under center when at Tennessee and also played against more talented defenses than Bradford. He also took plenty of hits and kept going which is an area it seems Bradford is lacking a bit. IMO there isn't much of a comparison between them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dead Money Posted February 11, 2010 Share Posted February 11, 2010 you mean people guess wrong on QBs? especially when there's an institutional tendency across all sports to get enamored with measurables and "upside" rather than fundamentals and skill? so they take the $5 arm with the $0.10 brain, or the guy with gaudy stats in a spread offense and are surprised when he fails? or the guy with a baseball windup? gms draft QB busts for 3 reasons 1: they fall in love with his physical profile and overlook the fact that he sucks at playing the position 2: they take a guy who seemingly has it all but a ****ty work ethic or attitude or mental makeup 3: they take a guy from a pure spread school (not all spread offenses are created equal - different ones require different things in terms of footwork, reading defense and such. and don't even bring up bradford getting pre-snap reads from coaches - very, very few QBs in college make their own pre-snap reads, i'd be suprised if somoene like peyton did) basically, it's actually not that hard to avoid QB busts but the problem is that scouts have a bit of "group-think" in them and once a consensus is reached that a guy will be a stud, it's hard to break away from it. that's why a guy like jamarcus goes #1, and a guy like brady goes in the 6th round or brees in the 2nd. Your quote of me is a blatant lie. I never said anything that you have underneath the quote listed. "nonsense?" Ha! Grow up and re read what I wrote. It wasn't aimed at you alone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dead Money Posted February 11, 2010 Share Posted February 11, 2010 You really don't like Jim Druckenmiller do you...to have listed him twice? Poor Jim... Yeah your right, that pick must of pissed me off... or I copied and pasted the list from several sources.. ;P Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dead Money Posted February 11, 2010 Share Posted February 11, 2010 you mean people guess wrong on QBs? especially when there's an institutional tendency across all sports to get enamored with measurables and "upside" rather than fundamentals and skill? so they take the $5 arm with the $0.10 brain, or the guy with gaudy stats in a spread offense and are surprised when he fails? or the guy with a baseball windup? gms draft QB busts for 3 reasons 1: they fall in love with his physical profile and overlook the fact that he sucks at playing the position 2: they take a guy who seemingly has it all but a ****ty work ethic or attitude or mental makeup 3: they take a guy from a pure spread school (not all spread offenses are created equal - different ones require different things in terms of footwork, reading defense and such. and don't even bring up bradford getting pre-snap reads from coaches - very, very few QBs in college make their own pre-snap reads, i'd be suprised if somoene like peyton did) basically, it's actually not that hard to avoid QB busts but the problem is that scouts have a bit of "group-think" in them and once a consensus is reached that a guy will be a stud, it's hard to break away from it. that's why a guy like jamarcus goes #1, and a guy like brady goes in the 6th round or brees in the 2nd. So Gm I mean imperium, you stand by negating the credibility of every gm who drafted every QB I named above (minus JC) HA! and say that you know better about this particular draft than any of them? Your pompass-ness amazes me. Nice false quote of me too.... weak. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TotalRecall Posted February 11, 2010 Share Posted February 11, 2010 I could live with Anthony Davis. He's huge and will be very good. But if we go the OT route, I would rather trade down and get Mike Iupati and possibly Kyle Wilson with the other pick (if we're lucky enough to get two 1st rounders this year), then pick-up Colt McCoy in the 2nd round. As some have stated, only one QB picked in the 1st round isn't realistic here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HitStickTaylor21 Posted February 11, 2010 Share Posted February 11, 2010 I don't see how this is laughable. We need OT and he has us taking OT. Keep in mind McShay projected us to take Devin Thomas when no one else was even thinking about him on the radar. Also keep in mind, that lots of people, myself included, laughed when we read that mock draft and we ended up taking him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S.T.real,lights,out Posted February 11, 2010 Share Posted February 11, 2010 I'd love to see who he has us taking in the 2nd. I dont know much about the OT he has us taking. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rocky21 Posted February 11, 2010 Share Posted February 11, 2010 That is one of the most unrealistic mock drafts I have seen this entire off-season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hitman21ST Posted February 11, 2010 Share Posted February 11, 2010 Your quote of me is a blatant lie. I never said anything that you have underneath the quote listed. "nonsense?" Ha! Grow up and re read what I wrote. It wasn't aimed at you alone. So Gm I mean imperium, you stand by negating the credibility of every gm who drafted every QB I named above (minus JC) HA! and say that you know better about this particular draft than any of them? Your pompass-ness amazes me. Nice false quote of me too.... weak. Two rebuttals of the same comment within ten minutes of each other, no one posting in between. There's an edit button for a reason. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mhenry41h Posted February 11, 2010 Share Posted February 11, 2010 Wow! What a bunch of garbage. Although, if he is correct...could the Skins draft a stud O-lineman with the fourth pick and still draft Clausen in the second round?? I would say its a one-in-a-bazillion chance but wouldnt that be sweet? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicken Fried Posted February 11, 2010 Share Posted February 11, 2010 I'd rather take Ro McClain. And I'd love it if the Iggles took Mays. He's a lock to be a bust. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jhug Posted February 11, 2010 Share Posted February 11, 2010 Makes perfect sense. Most teams have been putting a premium on OL the past few seasons. Duane Brown comes to mind, everyone had him as early to mid second rounder, goes to Houston at 25. the tackle from USC that went to Atlanta late in round one also. This draft is suppose to be deep in lineman on both sides of the ball and we only have two picks in the top fifty. Considering we have no starting tackles on this team, barring any trade down scenario, I go tackle, tackle in the first and second. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PlayAction Posted February 11, 2010 Share Posted February 11, 2010 That is one of the most unrealistic mock drafts I have seen this entire off-season. What is the basis for your opinion? Is it just because this mock is different than 20 others that you have seen? Wait till the combine.....a lot of the mocks will change significantly. The actual draft will be different than most of the mocks anyway. I don't see how anyone can say at this point that this mock is unrealistic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Sinister Posted February 11, 2010 Share Posted February 11, 2010 What is the basis for your opinion? Is it just because this mock is different than 20 others that you have seen? Wait till the combine.....a lot of the mocks will change significantly. The actual draft will be different than most of the mocks anyway. I don't see how anyone can say at this point that this mock is unrealistic. A lot of armchair GM's and scouts would love to disagree with you:) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
[[ghost]] Posted February 11, 2010 Share Posted February 11, 2010 His mock draft is more about who he thinks each team should draft. It should be where he projects players will go, not his opinion. What a fool. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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