Airman67 Posted January 14, 2010 Share Posted January 14, 2010 Can anyone explain to me why having Haslett here would be a good thing? I'm checking out his track record and nothing is jumping out at me that makes me believe that he could improve this defense. What does Coach Shanahan know about him and what does he bring? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RabidFan Posted January 14, 2010 Share Posted January 14, 2010 He is a hard ass at least. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kvarlo12000 Posted January 14, 2010 Share Posted January 14, 2010 He is a hard ass at least. He will bring energy and fire to the sideline. imagine Brian Orakpo with Haslett chewing his ass off. he will be a beast pissed off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Notorious_1 Posted January 14, 2010 Share Posted January 14, 2010 It's seems like from what I read, despite his records as a coach and rankings as a coordinator, he is a highly regarded defensive mind. He's an in your face and fiery type of coach that's not afraid to dig into his player. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Airman67 Posted January 14, 2010 Author Share Posted January 14, 2010 Ok...I agree that we need fire and some serious ass-kicking. But looking at his defenses over the years, what have they done and what are they known for? I read that one of his teams was known for defensive scoring (something we have never been known for). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fish Posted January 14, 2010 Share Posted January 14, 2010 One supposed advantage is his familiarity w/ the 3-4 Defense. Now, whether or not THAT is a good thing or not........I'm not sure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrJL Posted January 14, 2010 Share Posted January 14, 2010 He will bring energy and fire to the sideline. imagine Brian Orakpo with Haslett chewing his ass off. he will be a beast pissed off. Orakpo's the kind of guy who doesn't need that. THat could even be detrimental. But honestly I'm just glad it looks like we'll have an agressive defense. I'd prefer to stay in a 4-3 but we have the guys on defense that we could make the shift with just a few stopgap guys and since DL is a strength we might be able to trade some people and get some picks or their replacements. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AmpinGuard88 Posted January 14, 2010 Share Posted January 14, 2010 He might actually bring a scheme that has the SS in the vacinity of the plays. It got old watching Landry just getting to plays as the play was whistled dead. It was like we were playing with only 10 guys on the field. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LD0506 Posted January 14, 2010 Share Posted January 14, 2010 Haslett has several points in his favor. He is very flexible, and adapts his scheme to the talent he has instead of trying to pound square pegs into round holes. He is very emotional, gets his players fired up and has a rep for extremely good relations with players. Guys that have played under him have a ton of respect for him, there will be no going thru the motions on D. He is highly thought of in professional circles, as opposed to internet blowhards that only look at rankings. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jflow78 Posted January 14, 2010 Share Posted January 14, 2010 His defenses are known for being aggressive in creating turnovers and scoring. When he was in Pittsburgh, his defenses were in the top 2 for a few years in scoring, something that would have helped this season. Aggressiveness would have helped out a lot this year, normally it means giving up a big play, but this year we gave up plenty of big plays but weren't aggressive enough to produce many turnovers, now at least we get the turnovers. He'll hold people accountable, another issue with our defense this season. I think the real reason he's here is because he can help us make a smooth transition to 3-4 because he's coached plenty of both 4-3 and 3-4. It was the same thing with Zimmer, both guys had led both types of defense successfully. I'm not convinced that's the right move, but if that's where we're going, then I'm happy we have a guy that can move the D there as we get more fitting personnel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aREDSKIN Posted January 14, 2010 Share Posted January 14, 2010 Haslett certainly has credentials as a competent DC something that IMO Blache never really had. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
santana_4_prez Posted January 14, 2010 Share Posted January 14, 2010 From what I've read is he is aggressive and blitz heavy...so bring it on! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redskins55 Posted January 14, 2010 Share Posted January 14, 2010 Haslett has something to prove after being of of the league coaching the florida tuskers so I like that aspect of his potential. Honestly I think he was brought in for his familiarity with the 3-4 defense. Not to many coordinators out there that are experienced in that defense. hopefully he calls plays like he has something to prove because he does have something to prove. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bikie Posted January 14, 2010 Share Posted January 14, 2010 his experience in both the 3-4 and 4-3 gives us the ability to use the hybrid D that is all the rage these days... by just his name alone, as a fan, it didn't stand out to me as a great hire, but I heard nothing but positives about the man since he signed on... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth Tater Posted January 14, 2010 Share Posted January 14, 2010 Whether it actually fixes the problem or not, I don't know, but the inability of the defense to make plays has been a problem since 2004. The last two seasons, its really been a killer and last season, it was our second biggest problem on the team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Airman67 Posted January 14, 2010 Author Share Posted January 14, 2010 I'm willing to keep an open mind on it. I was basing my opinion on his lack of success in the NFL as a head coach and was not really looking at what he has done or can do as a DC. I'd simply be more happy if he can bring more blitz packages (or get that damn Carlos Rogers to actually catch a pass or sit his ass). I don't know much about the 3-4 defense, having grown up with a 4-3. Someone mentioned a hybrid of the two. How does that work? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peregrine Posted January 14, 2010 Share Posted January 14, 2010 I can't say I am a fan of the move either. He just never has had a great defense in terms of shutting down opposing offenses. Almost every year it has been in the bottom half of the NFL. Sure, the couple of years with a good scoring defense are nice, but then consider how much they give up. Sure, hes fiery, but that hasnt helped his defenses yet, and hasnt helped him win games yet. Why is that going to start now? Whats going to be different? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Probos Posted January 14, 2010 Share Posted January 14, 2010 Can anyone explain to me why having Haslett here would be a good thing? I'm checking out his track record and nothing is jumping out at me that makes me believe that he could improve this defense.What does Coach Shanahan know about him and what does he bring? Why would anyone on this board be able to explain (from a well informed, true NFL knowledge standpoint) why having Haslett as DC is good or bad? I think I'll just trust a 2-time Super Bowl champion coach and hope for the best. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burgold Posted January 14, 2010 Share Posted January 14, 2010 Why would anyone on this board be able to explain (from a well informed, true NFL knowledge standpoint) why having Haslett as DC is good or bad?I think I'll just trust a 2-time Super Bowl champion coach and hope for the best. It's fair to conjecture based on his sucesses and failures. There are always lots of side stories that we don't see in the W/L records or the stats, but that doesn't mean that we don't have useful data. Haslett certainly doesn't seem to have Grade A credentials, but he has been well respected and in the game for a while. It worries me that anyone wants someone who was part of a St. Louis Defense... though I guess Lovie Smith proved okay. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skinsinparadise Posted January 14, 2010 Share Posted January 14, 2010 I can't say I am a fan of the move either. He just never has had a great defense in terms of shutting down opposing offenses. Almost every year it has been in the bottom half of the NFL. Sure, the couple of years with a good scoring defense are nice, but then consider how much they give up.Sure, hes fiery, but that hasnt helped his defenses yet, and hasnt helped him win games yet. Why is that going to start now? Whats going to be different? I don't have the stats in front of me but on another thread recently someone had his defensive rankings, and from what I recall it was far from him having bottom ranked defenses almost every year. You might be thinking of his last two years with that mighty team the St. Louis Rams. See how defensive wiz Steve Spags has turned that whole program of the Rams around? Or maybe not. Edit: Keep in mind assistant coaches who stink generally DO NOT get promoted to head coach, so you'd figure he has something going for him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
More Complete Posted January 14, 2010 Share Posted January 14, 2010 I don't know much about the 3-4 defense, having grown up with a 4-3. Someone mentioned a hybrid of the two. How does that work? Go back and look at Green Bay's defense this year. It worked pretty well for them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
corrupt3d Posted January 14, 2010 Share Posted January 14, 2010 Go back and look at Green Bay's defense this year. It worked pretty well for them. But they also drafted a great NT in BJ Raji. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dballer Posted January 14, 2010 Share Posted January 14, 2010 Go back and look at Green Bay's defense this year. It worked pretty well for them. Green Bay went to the playoffs...They also led the league in turnover ratio...other 3-4 teams would include Chargers, Ravens, Steelers, Cowboys, Patriots...all but the Steelers (defending champs) were in the playoffs... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Santana_89 Posted January 14, 2010 Share Posted January 14, 2010 It's seems like from what I read, despite his records as a coach and rankings as a coordinator, he is a highly regarded defensive mind. He's an in your face and fiery type of coach that's not afraid to dig into his player. Yeah I hear good things about him as a D coordinator, as head coach not so much. He has great leadership and motivational skills from reports. So Shanny can leave him to regulate that side of the ball(especially since LaCaLoser has reported that there's trouble brewing with Haynesworth). http://www.nfl.com/videos/nfl-videos/09000d5d815b6886/Around-the-League I wonder if the NFL Network realize what a boob he is?? Plus Haslett is well versed in the 3-4 and 4-3 defense. Sounds like a winner to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Airman67 Posted January 14, 2010 Author Share Posted January 14, 2010 Why would anyone on this board be able to explain (from a well informed, true NFL knowledge standpoint) why having Haslett as DC is good or bad?I think I'll just trust a 2-time Super Bowl champion coach and hope for the best. I'm not looking for a prediction on his success or failure here in Washington. I was simply wanting to know more about the man himself and what attributes he brings with him. I have read all there seems to be printed on him and it still leaves some giant holes. I was hoping maybe someone had a little more info that i couldn't find. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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