Califan007 The Constipated Posted January 6, 2010 Share Posted January 6, 2010 Add your name by posting on here if you see the Allen/Shanahan hirings as "more of the same", that it's really no different than Gibbs/Cerrato, Spurrier/Cerrato, or Marty/Marty...that Snyder's incompetence and greed are still running the show, with the latest version of the Skins' FO nothing more than a marketing ploy to placate irate fans and an effort to rejuvenate ticket sales and good press. That Snyder will be just as "meddling" and impatient as you feel he's always been and either Shanny gets fired or quits within 2-3 years and Dan wants his "toy" back because he misses making the "big splash" and signing big, sexy free agents... I'm not saying I do, btw...I just want to see who does. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheDarb Posted January 6, 2010 Share Posted January 6, 2010 I'm not saying I do either. But I'm not saying I don't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stwasm Posted January 6, 2010 Share Posted January 6, 2010 I'm just taking a wait-and-see approach. While the moves made by the team were more than necessary, I do question whether or not Shanahan was the best candidate out there, and whether Danny will be able to stay in the background and let the football people do their jobs. So, if anything, the jury is still out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LD0506 Posted January 6, 2010 Share Posted January 6, 2010 Maybe you need to change this to "Sign Here If You're Not Really Convinced of Anything Yet" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MassSkinsFan Posted January 6, 2010 Share Posted January 6, 2010 Add me to the wait-and-see list. The major difference that kept me from immediately jumping to the conclusion that it's more of the same is the absence of Vinny. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
p0rtis26 Posted January 6, 2010 Share Posted January 6, 2010 Nothing has changed. I think $nyder is still involved enough that we'll continue to be mediocure for years to come. My prediction is no NFC East championships in the next three years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redskindan07 Posted January 6, 2010 Share Posted January 6, 2010 Giving away full control to a new head coach is a decent start Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bubba9497 Posted January 6, 2010 Share Posted January 6, 2010 let's just say I'm not getting caught up in all the hoopla and fan fair at the beginning. Shanny and Allen haven't accomplished anything as Redskins yet Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buck812 Posted January 6, 2010 Share Posted January 6, 2010 Im in the wait and see camp also... Its been a long time coming though if it does. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manny555 Posted January 6, 2010 Share Posted January 6, 2010 You'd think that he wouldn't have come, had it stayed the same. He coulda waited for more options. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dead Money Posted January 6, 2010 Share Posted January 6, 2010 I'm encouraged by Shanahan being such a strong personality, but discouraged that he's been all buddy-buddy with The Dan. Dan doesn't do friends all that well in the end from the seat I'm in. I think Shanny's ego won't allow Dan to meddle nearly as much, and Bruce is there as a kind of wall to keep him at bay as well... That I like. I just hope Allen can compliment Shanny and help limit potential personnel mistakes, that have been a highlight of Shanny's resume. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
youngestson Posted January 6, 2010 Share Posted January 6, 2010 Maybe you need to change this to "Sign Here If You're Not Really Convinced of Anything Yet" We should form a support group. :laugh: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrredskinDgreen Posted January 6, 2010 Share Posted January 6, 2010 Snyder is one of the youngest owners in the NFL. He isn't going anywhere for a very long time. Hiring Bruce Allen and Mike Shanahan to run the show is a HUGE step in the right direction. Basically what I'm saying is...get over the Snyder crap. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Califan007 The Constipated Posted January 6, 2010 Author Share Posted January 6, 2010 Maybe you need to change this to "Sign Here If You're Not Really Convinced of Anything Yet" Nah, I'm not interested in who feels that way lol...I'm intersted in who feels pretty much the way I described in my OP :yes:... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stwasm Posted January 6, 2010 Share Posted January 6, 2010 Snyder is one of the youngest owners in the NFL. He isn't going anywhere for a very long time. Hiring Bruce Allen and Mike Shanahan to run the show is a HUGE step in the right direction.Basically what I'm saying is...get over the Snyder crap. It's a little difficult to "get over the Snyder crap" when that man has turned our team into a laughingstock over the last decade. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S.T.real,lights,out Posted January 6, 2010 Share Posted January 6, 2010 let's just say I'm not getting caught up in all the hoopla and fan fair at the beginning.Shanny and Allen haven't accomplished anything as Redskins yet Yup, im with you. Untill we starting winning games i will just wait and see. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dreamboater Posted January 6, 2010 Share Posted January 6, 2010 Nothing has changed. I think $nyder is still involved enough that we'll continue to be mediocure for years to come. My prediction is no NFC East championships in the next three years. Many would argue that it will take 3 years to even be competitive again. We have a ton of holes so I think you are correct. However it's also necessary. We as fans have adopted Snyders thoughts of 1 player away. This will take years!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kleese Posted January 6, 2010 Share Posted January 6, 2010 It's a little difficult to "get over the Snyder crap" when that man has turned our team into a laughingstock over the last decade. This is not accurate. He hasn't succeeded as our owner, but he certainly hasn't made us worse off than we were. Our records in 6 seasons PRIOR to Danny taking over: 4-12, 3-13, 6-10, 9-7, 8-7-1, 6-10. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Waterboy Posted January 6, 2010 Share Posted January 6, 2010 Like all other Snyder hires, Shanahan will be gone.... hmmmm 3 years tops. The problem hasn't been the lack of quality coaches .... its the lack of quality ownership. That's the one constant as you all well know. You all seem giddy like the first day Gibbs returned; when the ole ball coach was announced; when Schottenheimer walked through the door. But they all departed without winning records too Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AsburySkinsFan Posted January 6, 2010 Share Posted January 6, 2010 let's just say I'm not getting caught up in all the hoopla and fan fair at the beginning.Shanny and Allen haven't accomplished anything as Redskins yet My thoughts exactly, I won't be drinking any kool-aid just yet. We are still in the wastelands of the NFL, we'll see if Moses and Aaron can lead us to the Promised Land. However, if there is anything that makes me feel better its that Vinny is gone, Zorn is gone, a coaching staff shake-up is coming and Danny has given control to his coach and has said that he's backing away from football operations. We'll see. But, after this 17 week season in purgatory I'm ready for any Hope and Change that is being offered. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gortiz Posted January 6, 2010 Share Posted January 6, 2010 even the crustiest curmudgeon has to be pitching a little bit of a tent right now. I do not care who you are. sure there is doubt about snyder, but there is doubt about everything thing in this world. what did frodo baggins say about walking out your door everyday? you got to go with what you see and hear, and so far, that has been a positive. no way any redskins fan is not at least a "little" juiced. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TD_washingtonredskins Posted January 6, 2010 Share Posted January 6, 2010 I'm not concerned about Snyder meddling anymore. There were reports that "control" clauses were written into Allen's contract. Also, we have a new head coach who commands a lot of respect and has been given "total control" or "ultimate say" over football decisions. To me, this was Snyder's attempt to cede control. He's essentially trying to protect his franchise from himself. In my opinion, if a situation arises in the future where Snyder injects himself into decision-making and it's allowed...the fault lies with Allen and Shanahan. We finally have people in the front office with both the clout and the personality to tell Snyder to back off. If there is a failure in this process over the next five years, it's on them, not the owner. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Califan007 The Constipated Posted January 6, 2010 Author Share Posted January 6, 2010 So far I think only two people have posted something that indicates they feel the way I described in my OP and in the thread title lol.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RabidFan Posted January 6, 2010 Share Posted January 6, 2010 Snyder is one of the youngest owners in the NFL. He isn't going anywhere for a very long time. Hiring Bruce Allen and Mike Shanahan to run the show is a HUGE step in the right direction.Basically what I'm saying is...get over the Snyder crap. +1000 add to that the fact that if he's stroking the checks he should want to be in the know at least. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Califan007 The Constipated Posted January 6, 2010 Author Share Posted January 6, 2010 even the crustiest curmudgeon has to be pitching a little bit of a tent right now. :rotflmao: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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