themurf Posted December 23, 2009 Share Posted December 23, 2009 (photo by Brian Murphy) “You’re the only game on. At least on Sunday you’ve got 10 other games, so you might not get seen doing that bad.” – Washington Redskins receiver Malcolm Kelly, after the team’s humiliating 45-12 loss on Monday Night Football. That quote, which Kelly provided to the talented Grant Paulsen in the post-game locker room, speaks volumes. For a guy who has only been with the Redskins for less than two seasons, Kelly clearly has a sense of what the Redskins subject their fanbase to seemingly every time they’re scheduled to play a primetime game. In fact, the team has been so porous when the country is watching, that the Redskins really should consider petitioning the league office to flex them out of their upcoming Sunday night matchup against the Dallas Cowboys. As it stands now, the chances of the ‘Skins actually winning this game are even slimmer than their 4-10 record already suggests. The more we thought of it, the more we realized just how pitiful the Redskins are in big games. Since we’re a glutton for punishment, we went back and researched the Redskins’ record during primetime games since 2000. The numbers are damning, to say the least: Monday Night Football record: 3-10 Dec. 21, 2009: Redskins lose vs. New York Giants, 45-12 Oct. 26, 2009: Redskins lose vs. Philadelphia Eagles, 27-17 Nov. 3, 2008: Redskins lose vs. Pittsburgh Steelers, 23-6 Sept. 17, 2007: Redskins win at Philadelphia Eagles, 20-12 Sept. 11, 2006: Redskins lose vs. Minnesota Vikings, 19-16 Sept. 19, 2005 Redskins win at Dallas Cowboys, 14-13 Sept. 27, 2004: Redskins lose vs. Dallas Cowboys, 21-18 Sept. 16, 2002: Redskins lose vs. Philadelphia Eagles, 37-7 Oct. 15, 2001: Redskins lose at Dallas Cowboys, 9-7 Sept. 24, 2001: Redskins lose at Green Bay Packers, 37-0 Nov. 20, 2000: Redskins win at St. Louis Rams, 33-20 Oct. 30, 2000: Redskins lose vs. Tennessee Titans, 27-21 Sept. 18, 2000: Redskins lose vs. Dallas Cowboys, 27-21 Sunday Night Football: 6-6 Dec. 7, 2008: Redskins lose at Baltimore Ravens, 24-10 Nov. 16, 2008: Redskins lose vs. Dallas Cowboys, 14-10 Dec. 23, 2007: Redskins win at Minnesota Vikings, 32-21 Dec. 16, 2007: Redskins win at New York Giants, 22-10 Sept. 17, 2006: Redskins lose at Dallas Cowboys, 27-10 Nov. 6, 2005: Redskins win vs. Philadelphia Eagles, 17-10 Dec. 12, 2004: Redskins lose vs. Philadelphia Eagles, 17-14 Oct. 10, 2004: Redskins lose vs. Baltimore Ravens, 17-10 Nov. 23, 2003: Redskins lose at Miami Dolphins, 24-23 Oct. 27, 2002: Redskins win vs. Indianapolis Colts, 26-21 Dec. 30, 2001: Redskins win vs. New Orleans Saints, 40-10 Sept. 24, 2000: Redskins win at New York Giants, 16-6 Thursday Games: 2-2 Sept. 4, 2008: Redskins lose at New York Giants, 16-7 Dec. 6, 2007: Redskins win vs. Chicago Bears, 24-16 Sept. 4, 2003: Redskins win vs. New York Jets, 16-13 Nov. 28, 2002: Redskins lose at Dallas Cowboys, 27-20 Quick math puts the Redskins at 11-18 in primetime games this decade. More recently, Washington is 0-6 in primetime games over the last two seasons, while being outscored 149-62. Click here for the full article. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Lydon Posted December 23, 2009 Share Posted December 23, 2009 At least the Sacramento Kings amazing comeback against the Bulls pulled a little of the spotlight off the Skins pounding Monday night. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArmchairRedskin Posted December 23, 2009 Share Posted December 23, 2009 That is one depressing list. Ouch, baby. Very ouch. A perfect article for the airing of grievances, though. Happy Festivus! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
suze109 Posted December 23, 2009 Share Posted December 23, 2009 WOW ... that's just really hard to bear in black and white like that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark The Homer Posted December 23, 2009 Share Posted December 23, 2009 It looks to me like the Sunday games and the Thursday games has us playing better than the Snyder-era average. So we got THAT going for us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KDawg Posted December 23, 2009 Share Posted December 23, 2009 Since 2000, we're 70-88 overall. That's a win percentage of .443. In primetime we're 11-18. That's a win percentage of .379. Take out prime time games and we're 59-80 which is a win percentage of .424. It all seems fairly par for the course if you ask me... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TSO Posted December 23, 2009 Share Posted December 23, 2009 *Finds closest cliff, jumps off* Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicken Fried Posted December 23, 2009 Share Posted December 23, 2009 Have we ever been ready for primetime? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toe Jam Posted December 23, 2009 Share Posted December 23, 2009 This is why my friends never take me seriously when I tell them how great the things I'm passionate about are. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Misterwookas Posted December 23, 2009 Share Posted December 23, 2009 (photo by Brian Murphy) “You’re the only game on. At least on Sunday you’ve got 10 other games, so you might not get seen doing that bad.” – Washington Redskins receiver Malcolm Kelly, after the team’s humiliating 45-12 loss on Monday Night Football. That quote, which Kelly provided to the talented Grant Paulsen in the post-game locker room, speaks volumes. For a guy who has only been with the Redskins for less than two seasons, Kelly clearly has a sense of what the Redskins subject their fanbase to seemingly every time they’re scheduled to play a primetime game. In fact, the team has been so porous when the country is watching, that the Redskins really should consider petitioning the league office to flex them out of their upcoming Sunday night matchup against the Dallas Cowboys. As it stands now, the chances of the ‘Skins actually winning this game are even slimmer than their 4-10 record already suggests. The more we thought of it, the more we realized just how pitiful the Redskins are in big games. Since we’re a glutton for punishment, we went back and researched the Redskins’ record during primetime games since 2000. The numbers are damning, to say the least: Monday Night Football record: 3-10 Dec. 21, 2009: Redskins lose vs. New York Giants, 45-12 Oct. 26, 2009: Redskins lose vs. Philadelphia Eagles, 27-17 Nov. 3, 2008: Redskins lose vs. Pittsburgh Steelers, 23-6 Sept. 17, 2007: Redskins win at Philadelphia Eagles, 20-12 Sept. 11, 2006: Redskins lose vs. Minnesota Vikings, 19-16 Sept. 19, 2005 Redskins win at Dallas Cowboys, 14-13 Sept. 27, 2004: Redskins lose vs. Dallas Cowboys, 21-18 Sept. 16, 2002: Redskins lose vs. Philadelphia Eagles, 37-7 Oct. 15, 2001: Redskins lose at Dallas Cowboys, 9-7 Sept. 24, 2001: Redskins lose at Green Bay Packers, 37-0 Nov. 20, 2000: Redskins win at St. Louis Rams, 33-20 Oct. 30, 2000: Redskins lose vs. Tennessee Titans, 27-21 Sept. 18, 2000: Redskins lose vs. Dallas Cowboys, 27-21 Sunday Night Football: 6-6 Dec. 7, 2008: Redskins lose at Baltimore Ravens, 24-10 Nov. 16, 2008: Redskins lose vs. Dallas Cowboys, 14-10 Dec. 23, 2007: Redskins win at Minnesota Vikings, 32-21 Dec. 16, 2007: Redskins win at New York Giants, 22-10 Sept. 17, 2006: Redskins lose at Dallas Cowboys, 27-10 Nov. 6, 2005: Redskins win vs. Philadelphia Eagles, 17-10 Dec. 12, 2004: Redskins lose vs. Philadelphia Eagles, 17-14 Oct. 10, 2004: Redskins lose vs. Baltimore Ravens, 17-10 Nov. 23, 2003: Redskins lose at Miami Dolphins, 24-23 Oct. 27, 2002: Redskins win vs. Indianapolis Colts, 26-21 Dec. 30, 2001: Redskins win vs. New Orleans Saints, 40-10 Sept. 24, 2000: Redskins win at New York Giants, 16-6 Thursday Games: 2-2 Sept. 4, 2008: Redskins lose at New York Giants, 16-7 Dec. 6, 2007: Redskins win vs. Chicago Bears, 24-16 Sept. 4, 2003: Redskins win vs. New York Jets, 16-13 Nov. 28, 2002: Redskins lose at Dallas Cowboys, 27-20 Quick math puts the Redskins at 11-18 in primetime games this decade. More recently, Washington is 0-6 in primetime games over the last two seasons, while being outscored 149-62. Click here for the full article. I am a big fan of sports trivia. Who were the starting QB's for the Skins for their 3 Monday nite football wins during this decade? The '07 win should be easy, and the '05 win was a Skins classic, but just who was the QB when we played the Rams in 2000? It was none other than Jeff George. I remember that game. Albert Connell had a big game that nite also. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kentuckyskinsfan Posted December 23, 2009 Share Posted December 23, 2009 So that means in front of the Nation, we suck 3-10 on Monday night games with Snyder as the owner. Just saying.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rodriggo Posted December 24, 2009 Share Posted December 24, 2009 Thank you "themurf"! Excellent post! Been wanting to assemble this for sometime. Still curious to see what our record is since Gibbs left the first time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark The Homer Posted December 24, 2009 Share Posted December 24, 2009 I am a big fan of sports trivia. ... 11. Please do not use the “Quote” feature to quote huge blocks of text or pictures. If you would like to respond to the contents of a particular post, simply quote the sentence or idea that you're commenting upon, not necessarily the entire post. It wastes space on the database and unnecessarily extends and clutters threads. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark The Homer Posted December 24, 2009 Share Posted December 24, 2009 Since 2000, we're 70-88 overall.That's a win percentage of .443. In primetime we're 11-18. That's a win percentage of .379. Take out prime time games and we're 59-80 which is a win percentage of .424. It all seems fairly par for the course if you ask me... I think you messed up the math there, KDawg... you show the overall losses are ten short of the prime-time plus non prime-time losses... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkinsHokieFan Posted December 24, 2009 Share Posted December 24, 2009 Joe Gibbs 1 also had a terrible problem in primetime Recall before the 1991 win over the Cowboys on Monday night, the story that week was how the Redskins had a 6 game losing streak on MNF going into the game (including the body bag game in 1990 vs the Eagles) The Redskins would go 4-0 in primetime (Sunday and Monday night football with a 45-0 win over Detroit on Sunday night, 33-31 win at Dallas on MNF, 23-0 over the Iggles on MNF and a 17-13 comeback win at the Giants on Sunday night) In 1992 though that changed again as the Redskins lost at Dallas on MNF to open the season (23-10) won vs Denver (34-3) and lost at New Orleans (20-3) This team as long as I can remember has struggled in primetime, not just under this owner Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jbskinfan Posted December 24, 2009 Share Posted December 24, 2009 Let's take a look at the home games in prime time those are the ones that hurt. Trying to get to the stadium on those nights is a real challenge and then for the team to play like they did or have in the past for important games makes a season ticket holder want to hide his wallet. It was a special night for many reasons that were obviously lost on the team, it was winter soltice for starters. People got off work early, prepared a hot tail gate with cold beer in very inclement weather conditions...to see what happened when the teams hit the field. It was an embarrassment so much that even the Giant fans felt sorry for us, well some of them anyway. How can we recover from this...Dallas game doesn't look too promising right now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MONTEY Posted December 24, 2009 Share Posted December 24, 2009 The culture of the Washington Redskins organization. Its a lost cause. And I really hate that it is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RammsteinSkins Posted December 25, 2009 Share Posted December 25, 2009 At least the Sacramento Kings amazing comeback against the Bulls pulled a little of the spotlight off the Skins pounding Monday night.2 games that night that depressed me... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gregpeck99 Posted December 25, 2009 Share Posted December 25, 2009 Skins lack of a decent QB over the last twenty years or so is primary reason for futility. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
justice98 Posted December 25, 2009 Share Posted December 25, 2009 I keep thinking this every time The Redskins play on national TV. This is something that never gets mentioned much. They really have managed to perform poorly on nationally televised games in general, not just night games. Now, it stands to reason that if you're playing in a nationally televised night game, it's probably going to be against a good opponent, but they're rarely in "good" competitive games against those opponents. They either play ugly, or they just flat out get manhandled, overmatched, and embarrassed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoVaSkins21 Posted December 26, 2009 Share Posted December 26, 2009 The culture of the Washington Redskins organization. Its a lost cause. And I really hate that it is. Agreed. The culture has to change and hopefully Allen's hiring is a start to that change in culture. Hopefully, Allen and the guys around him can get players who can play well when the spotlight is brightest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S.T.real,lights,out Posted September 19, 2011 Share Posted September 19, 2011 Was trying to find one of these to bump b/c all of the work has already been done by Murf. This was from 09 so from last season i think we were 1-1 in primetime (cowgirls, Eagles)? Anyway, obviously this will be a really big game for us. Not just b/c it Dallas or a Div game...but all the pressure will be on us to show what we got in PT. Really hope our guys can take care of business! Hail!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Califan007 The Constipated Posted September 19, 2011 Share Posted September 19, 2011 Was trying to find one of these to bump b/c all of the work has already been done by Murf. This was from 09 so from last season i think we were 1-1 in primetime (cowgirls, Eagles)? 1-2 (Cowboys, Colts, Eagles) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
themurf Posted September 19, 2011 Author Share Posted September 19, 2011 Was trying to find one of these to bump b/c all of the work has already been done by Murf. This was from 09 so from last season i think we were 1-1 in primetime (cowgirls, Eagles)?Anyway this will be a really big game. not just b/c it Dallas or a Div game...but all the pressure will be on us to show what we got in PT. Really hope our guys can take care of business! Hail!! Funny you should dig this up, man. I've already crunched the numbers and will be posting everything later in the week. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gibbs Hog Heaven Posted September 19, 2011 Share Posted September 19, 2011 I hope this doesn't apply to the team, but it's not so much the prime time record that worry's me for Monday night as the over optimism of the fans. When all said and done, this is Redskins- Cowboys; and the form book has little respect for this fixture. Hail. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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