ceviker Posted November 10, 2009 Share Posted November 10, 2009 We're 2-6 right now. Toughest schedule in the NFL coming up. I assume you all will agree that we're not winning out and thus, not making playoffs. Assuming you agree with that, what's the better scenario? 1. Lose out, finish 2-14, be a complete embarassment and practically guarantee change everywhere and a top 3 pick 2. Win several games and gain "momentum", leaving the door possibly open for JC or Zorn or even Vinny to come back next year since we finished strong? I can't really root for the Skins to lose. Its not really in my nature. But at this point, its the best thing for this team. If we end up winning 5-7 games, I think there is a possibility that we won't go into blow-up mode. And that is the worst possible outcome. Thoughts? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
703Skins Posted November 10, 2009 Share Posted November 10, 2009 people are going to bash if you say you want the skins to lose and that your not a "true fan" but whatever. To tell you the truth i think its better, im so over this year i'd rather they get a high draft pick next year and see if we can turn this around somehow. Whats the point of finishing say 5-11 vs 2-14? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ttr77 Posted November 10, 2009 Share Posted November 10, 2009 If it's a choice between #1 and #2, I choose 1. Not even close. If #2 happens, I will officially give up any hope for this franchise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TLusby Posted November 10, 2009 Share Posted November 10, 2009 Yes, we do not want the first overall pick as you can never trade down from it. We want to be in the 4 through 6 range in the draft which is where you can trade down and get more picks. This means we need to have at least four wins. We need a LT in a big way and if CS comes back he can either move to RT or hold the fort for the rookie while the rookie learns at RT. We need a stud guard and center out of this draft and hold off on a QB until 2011 draft. We can play Colt and sign Vick when the Eagles cut him as a stop gap. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
askounes Posted November 10, 2009 Share Posted November 10, 2009 We'd be in better shape as a team if we lost the rest of our games, but I cannot watch the Redskins play and root against them. It's just against my nature. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KingGibbs Posted November 10, 2009 Share Posted November 10, 2009 If we continue to lose it would mean (hopefully) that Danny would have no choice but to get rid of Vinny. So at this point, if that's what the end result would be than I'm not going to sweat the losses. I'm more concerned about our future then I am this total trainwreck of a season and if somebody wants to flame me because of that? I really don't care. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ttr77 Posted November 10, 2009 Share Posted November 10, 2009 In this situation, 2-14 > 8-8. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McD5 Posted November 10, 2009 Share Posted November 10, 2009 Lose them out. As many as possible, without drawing any attention. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LD0506 Posted November 10, 2009 Share Posted November 10, 2009 1. Lose out, finish 2-14, be a complete embarassment and practically guarantee change everywhere and a top 3 pick The only thing you guarantee there is the embarrassment part, where are you people getting this weird thought that you will somehow influence TheDan to transmogrify into something he has never been in his life, ie. an effective manager? ONE little disastrous 2-14 season and all of a sudden LilDan will see the light? You're kidding yourselves............ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
santana_4_prez Posted November 10, 2009 Share Posted November 10, 2009 I hate when fans say stuff like this! Win as many as you can. I will never root for Washington to lose. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burgold Posted November 10, 2009 Share Posted November 10, 2009 Monday through Saturday I think it's okay if we lose, but on Sundays I want to win. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheGreatBuzz Posted November 10, 2009 Share Posted November 10, 2009 I can never root for the Redskins to lose. And I don't see how anyone here can sit down to watch the game and cheer for the opposing team... That being said, I will admit that it would be better for the franchise in the long term if we went 2-14. I think if we win any of the upcoming games, it would be the perfect excuse for the front office to say "Look, we are improving. We don't need any big changes." :dallasuck Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MustangSteve Posted November 10, 2009 Share Posted November 10, 2009 I always want us to win on Sundays, I just don't expect us to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IbleedBnG83 Posted November 10, 2009 Share Posted November 10, 2009 As an avid fan, of course. But I have gotten to the point where I can rise above my emotions, especially since I am feeling numb, and want them to lose for the sake of change. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rdskn4Lyf21 Posted November 10, 2009 Share Posted November 10, 2009 Monday through Saturday I think it's okay if we lose, but on Sundays I want to win. ...and even after a loss on Sunday I'm pissed, but I can accept it knowing that it's for the best. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grimm Posted November 10, 2009 Share Posted November 10, 2009 I still want them to win, but at this point I am not overly disappointed in losing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skinz4Life12 Posted November 10, 2009 Share Posted November 10, 2009 i always want us to win on sundays, i just don't expect us to. +1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KingGibbs Posted November 10, 2009 Share Posted November 10, 2009 Let me clarify something for a few of you. Of course we (I) don't like to see the 'skins lose (duh), but at this point IF they lose I won't be as upset as I normally would because of the possible future long-term impact. See the difference? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ceviker Posted November 10, 2009 Author Share Posted November 10, 2009 Well that's the hard thing, right. Most of us can't root for the Skins to lose, myself included. But you can't argue its not better for the franchise if we do lose. Its like you have a kid who's in sheer agony. You know he's going to die and its better if you pull the trigger than watch him suffer and end up with the same fate. But can you do it? Ok, that's a bit extreme but this is extreme skins after all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
addicted Posted November 10, 2009 Share Posted November 10, 2009 people are going to bash if you say you want the skins to lose and that your not a "true fan" but whatever. To tell you the truth i think its better, im so over this year i'd rather they get a high draft pick next year and see if we can turn this around somehow. Whats the point of finishing say 5-11 vs 2-14? Bull, I'll say it now, We should lose every game the rest of the year. Anyone calling out my true feelings about this team is full of it. Positives of losing out: 1. Improves our draft position meaning better players are availible to the next coach 2. Guarentees there are no false senses of "these problems aren't so bad...we just need one or two pieces to fix this" attitudes that constantly haunt this team. We will know we suck and that we must change if we lose out. 3. Guarentees major changes to the coaching staff. I want Zorn out 4. Nearly guarentees Vinny's fired. If you want Vinny out then you want to lose. If we win he has the chance of convincing Snyder it's not all his fault. Bull. Fire Vinny Snyder!!! 5. It might make Snyder reflect on himself and cause permanent change for him. What Snyder needs more then anything is to look in the mirror and fix what's starring back at him. Winning keeps that from happening. Snyder needs to go hide under a rock and get out of making any football decisions. That won't happen unless he finally hits bottom and that only comes with losing 6. It will force Jason Campbell to be cut. It will also cause a purge to this roster unlike anything we've seen since Marty was here. Positives for winning.... I don't see any thing other then feeling as if were not that bad. I'm sorry but that feeling is not a good one for the team at this point. No question we need to lose out. Sorry season ticket fans but in the best interest of the team next year we all should be praying were somehow picking 3-5 next year and don't win another game this season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ttr77 Posted November 10, 2009 Share Posted November 10, 2009 Like pulling off a bandaid...lets get it all over quick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stugein Posted November 10, 2009 Share Posted November 10, 2009 It would be better for the post-season rebuild if we lost out. That said, I hope we don't. I want to win. I think at this point we're all but guaranteed a top 10 pick. I'd much rather win a few more and pick 5-10 than lose out just to pick 1-4. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DMVSkins Posted November 10, 2009 Share Posted November 10, 2009 I want them to win but realize realistically its not going to happen we will be 3-13 at best senario, I just hope we make the right moves in the draft and offseason to avaoid our current mistakes but in this organization that would be considerd thinking outside of the box Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
quettefan Posted November 10, 2009 Share Posted November 10, 2009 as long as they win enough to secure the 4th or 5th pick. It looks like the Rams, Lions, TB/KC will be 1,2,3/4 (or 4/3), then Oakland or us and then Seattle...so, I hope we lose to Oakland. oh God -- it hurt to type this Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lombardi's_kid_brother Posted November 10, 2009 Share Posted November 10, 2009 Winning is better than losing. If getting a top three pick was so important, wouldn't the Lions be a very good team by now? You can have a great draft in the 8 through 14 spots. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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