SUSkinsFan Posted November 21, 2008 Share Posted November 21, 2008 Everything that Obama screws up will be so because he inherited such an awful situation from Bush.These next 4 years will be amazing. No presidential criticism at all. You'll see a **** ton of excuse making. In all fairness, everything Bush screwed up in his 1st term was because of "how badly Clinton ****ed everything up". It goes both ways. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larry Posted November 21, 2008 Share Posted November 21, 2008 Everything that Obama screws up will be so because he inherited such an awful situation from Bush.These next 4 years will be amazing. No presidential criticism at all. You'll see a **** ton of excuse making. Worked for the Republicans for 6 years. (And they're still trying to use it. It's just not working any more.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spaceman Spiff Posted November 21, 2008 Share Posted November 21, 2008 In all fairness, everything Bush screwed up in his 1st term was because of "how badly Clinton ****ed everything up". It goes both ways. Worked for the Republicans for 6 years. (And they're still trying to use it. It's just not working any more.) Haha you guys are ridiculous. Nevermind the fact that Obama said he'll fix everything, you guys are already getting ready to make excuses! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SUSkinsFan Posted November 21, 2008 Share Posted November 21, 2008 Haha you guys are ridiculous. Nevermind the fact that Obama said he'll fix everything, you guys are already getting ready to make excuses! Please show me a link to where Barack Obama said "I'll fix everything" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larry Posted November 21, 2008 Share Posted November 21, 2008 Haha you guys are ridiculous. Nevermind the fact that Obama said he'll fix everything, you guys are already getting ready to make excuses! Nevermind the fact that no he didn't, you're already getting ready to make blame. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spaceman Spiff Posted November 21, 2008 Share Posted November 21, 2008 Please show me ta link to where Barack Obama said "I'll fix everything" Ahhh, here we go......sorry I don't have a "direct quote" for you. Let's see what he promised when he gave his nom acceptance speech: End poverty domesticallyEnd poverty worldwide Give housing to homeless vets Give people more days off from work Create more jobs Help people save more money Increase the average family’s income Build new roads Provide a “royal class” education to every child End independence of Middle East oil in 10 years Make nuclear power safer Retool the domestic auto industry Make fuel-efficient cars cheaper Get better teachers and pay them more Send every American to college Lower health care costs Get women better pay Increase sick leave policies Expand personal bankruptcy protection Capture Osama Bin Laden End the war in Iraq Protect Israel and Georgia Defeat Al-Qaeda Increase military spending End nuclear proliferation End genocide End the spread of disease Make the rest of the world love America End political partisanship Unite the country Reduce unwanted pregnancies Take guns away from criminals while giving them to hunters End discrimination against gays End the hiring of illegal immigrants Change the culture of Washington http://thedooryard.typepad.com/the_dooryard/2008/08/obama-will-fix.html Fully aware it's some guys blog and you'll discredit that, but I don't care enough to fact check it all. So while he never directly said he'll "Fix everything" he did say he'll change the culture of Washington. He's doing a bang up job already with his cabinet members. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spaceman Spiff Posted November 21, 2008 Share Posted November 21, 2008 Nevermind the fact that no he didn't, you're already getting ready to make blame. Nope. I've gone on record as saying I hope he's a good president and I'll give him credit when credit is due. I just think he'll coast through these next 4 and perhaps 8 years free of criticism, just like he skated to the White House. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Capt Rich Fla Posted November 21, 2008 Share Posted November 21, 2008 So unless Bush plans to do something like, say, sell the Panama Canal to Halliburton for 23 bucks worth of beads, I don't really see the outrage. Who has the Panama Canal now? Did Jimmy Carter do something about that in his admistration? I use the Panama Canal on a regular basis and I can tell you it sucks now. The Panamanians don't know how to even cut the grass around there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SUSkinsFan Posted November 21, 2008 Share Posted November 21, 2008 End poverty domesticallyso he wants to work to make life easier for AmericansEnd poverty worldwidenever heard him say thatGive housing to homeless vetsWho is he to want to give the men and women that fought for our countryGive people more days off from worknever head him say that eitherCreate more jobsWhat Presidential candidate from ANY party has ever said "I want to lose jobs under my administration?"Help people save more moneySee aboveIncrease the average family’s incomeThe audacity of him for wanting to work to make Americans better offBuild new roadsThey all promise thatProvide a “royal class” education to every childThey all promise that tooEnd independence of Middle East oil in 10 yearsWhen JFK said we will go to the moon in 10 years was that also aiming too high?Make nuclear power saferAnd that's a bad thing?Retool the domestic auto industryGiven the current state of things do you think that's something he shouldn't work on?Make fuel-efficient cars cheaperthat can be doneGet better teachers and pay them morethat should be doneSend every American to collegein EXCHANGE for them serving their countryLower health care costsJohn McCain wanted to do that tooGet women better paythat cold-hearted ****Increase sick leave policiessee aboveExpand personal bankruptcy protectionsee above as wellCapture Osama Bin LadenJohn McCain said that as wellEnd the war in IraqJohn McCain said that tooProtect Israel and GeorgiaAnd thatDefeat Al-QaedaJohn McCain also said thatIncrease military spendingAnd thatEnd nuclear proliferationEvery POTUS candidate says thatEnd genocideDo you think we should allow genocide to continue?End the spread of diseaseHe's a humanitarian at heartMake the rest of the world love AmericaAgain, every candidate promises to expand America's prestige around the worldEnd political partisanshipthey all say that tooUnite the countryAgain, what POTUS candidate hasn't said thatReduce unwanted pregnanciesI think that is a GOOD thing to strive forTake guns away from criminals while giving them to huntersagain, is that a bad thing?End discrimination against gaysyou think discrimination should be tolerated?End the hiring of illegal immigrantsJohn McCain said that tooChange the culture of Washingtonthey all say that tooEverything you listed there are things that John McCain and Sarah Palin said they would do. And the beauty about being POTUS is that you have ALOT, and I mean ALOTTTTTTTTTT of people that work for you who want to help you achieve your goals. For example. His Secretaries of Transportation and Energy will work on the fuel efficient cars and getting America off oil, while his Health and Human Services Secretary will SIMULTANEOUSLY work to make health care more affordable. See how that works? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spaceman Spiff Posted November 21, 2008 Share Posted November 21, 2008 Everything you listed there are things that John McCain and Sarah Palin said they would do. And the beauty about being POTUS is that you have ALOT, and I mean ALOTTTTTTTTTT of people that work for you who want to help you achieve your goals. For example. His Secretaries of Transportation and Energy will work on the fuel efficient cars and getting America off oil, while his Health and Human Services Secretary will SIMULTANEOUSLY work to make health care more affordable. See how that works? If he can do it, great. At the end of the day, he's a politician and he'll say anything for a vote. Like I said, I hope he does well and I hope he turns this country around. If he does, I'll give him credit and praise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larry Posted November 21, 2008 Share Posted November 21, 2008 Who has the Panama Canal now? Did Jimmy Carter do something about that in his admistration? :secret:It was a joke. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DieselPwr44 Posted November 21, 2008 Share Posted November 21, 2008 What's he going to do, give Big Coal an exemption from the EPA for three months? That would be the least he can do seeing as his successor has already stated that he would put the coal industry out of business. So would you deny them one last hurrah before the doors closed?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twa Posted November 21, 2008 Share Posted November 21, 2008 Why did we start allowing Presidents to unilaterally write and pass what are effectively laws to begin with? I blame Lincoln:2cents: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkinsHokieFan Posted November 21, 2008 Share Posted November 21, 2008 Everything that Obama screws up will be so because he inherited such an awful situation from Bush.These next 4 years will be amazing. No presidential criticism at all. You'll see a **** ton of excuse making. I'll give President Obama the first year. He really won't have much of an impact policy wise, but could psycology wise After that I hope he does really really well. I hope we won't have to hear excuses Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
88Comrade2000 Posted November 21, 2008 Share Posted November 21, 2008 Obama is going to reverse everything, so big deal. All presidents do that at the end of their term; especially if the other party is taking over next. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Destino Posted November 21, 2008 Share Posted November 21, 2008 I don't understand why so many republicans in this thread are pretending to be against this. What Bush did is your party platform on the environment. Is the problem that he did it this way, as in you'd celebrate it had he done it before the election or if congress passed it? The actually actions are completely in line with the GOP otherwise. Looking at the things Bush did here you'd think the republicans members on the board would be thrilled. This is your platform, that you vote in support of, coming to pass. Hooray? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Capt Rich Fla Posted November 21, 2008 Share Posted November 21, 2008 :secret:It was a joke. I was about to say. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koolblue13 Posted November 21, 2008 Share Posted November 21, 2008 I don't understand why so many republicans in this thread are pretending to be against this. What Bush did is your party platform on the environment. Is the problem that he did it this way, as in you'd celebrate it had he done it before the election or if congress passed it? The actually actions are completely in line with the GOP otherwise.Looking at the things Bush did here you'd think the republicans members on the board would be thrilled. This is your platform, that you vote in support of, coming to pass. Hooray? Not exactly, no it isn't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mardi gras skin Posted November 21, 2008 Share Posted November 21, 2008 I don't understand why so many republicans in this thread are pretending to be against this. What Bush did is your party platform on the environment. Is the problem that he did it this way, as in you'd celebrate it had he done it before the election or if congress passed it? The actually actions are completely in line with the GOP otherwise.Looking at the things Bush did here you'd think the republicans members on the board would be thrilled. This is your platform, that you vote in support of, coming to pass. Hooray? If Kolbert were to write a similarly piece on Clinton's last months it might say, "Clinton has entered into his own midnight period, and it promises to be a dark time indeed. Among his many officious acts, this administration has performed a land grab, stealing away large swaths of territory from the American people in a move eerily reminiscent of the darkest days of the Roman Catholic Church." Clearly, there's a bias here. What were the regulations Bush sidestepped? Where they working? Were they hurting workers in unintended ways? I'd like more information about the efficacy of the regulations he's wiping away before making a call on their value to our society. Regardless, no president should push anything through this way. Its cowardly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jumbo Posted November 21, 2008 Share Posted November 21, 2008 I blame Lincoln:2cents: We should change the name to the Jefferson Davis Tunnel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burgold Posted November 21, 2008 Share Posted November 21, 2008 Nope. I've gone on record as saying I hope he's a good president and I'll give him credit when credit is due.I just think he'll coast through these next 4 and perhaps 8 years free of criticism, just like he skated to the White House. Umm... he hasn't even been sworn in yet and already there's been criticism of him. The News Hour was criticizing his Health Care Proposals yesterday. I've heard lots of criticism on the Cabinet picks. This is just an empty statement and more, you know it's untrue. News makes money off ratings and controversy. The talking heads and National News aren't all going to simply retire and faun for four or eight years. They will be happy to jump on any mistakes that happen. As they were with Bush, Clinton, Bush, Reagan, Carter, etc. None of them had a criticism free Presidency and no one ever will. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AsburySkinsFan Posted November 21, 2008 Author Share Posted November 21, 2008 I mean, how do you in one thread rip people to shreds for having the audacity to criticize Obama's hiring decisions, and then start another criticizing Bush for executing powers that we granted him? I don't get it. That's funny H_H because the hackery involved in damning the "change" because of a person Obama picks before a SINGLE policy decision is made is MUCH different than criticizing the actual policy decisions that Bush is ramming down our throats in the last minutes before he leaves office. I'm not critizing Bush's staffers nor his cabinet choices before they have ever made an official decision, instead I'm criticizing them precisely for the actual policy decisions that THEY are making that will hurt the American people. So, how do you feel about the POLICIES that Bush is making right now with these midnight regulations? Do you like them? If so why? If not then level the gun and fire, and stop trying the derail the topic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AsburySkinsFan Posted November 21, 2008 Author Share Posted November 21, 2008 I do.For 8 years half of the posters here have been on the attack. Attacking every single thing W and the Republicans have done Yeah, because it has NOTHING at ALL to do with the actual rules that Bush is creating right? :doh: Classic magician's move, distract and avoid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chief skin Posted November 21, 2008 Share Posted November 21, 2008 Those 2 whimps Reid and Pelosi should have brought us impeachment proceedings buit didnt have the guts, if ever any one deserved to be impeached it is this incomopetent clown Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AsburySkinsFan Posted November 21, 2008 Author Share Posted November 21, 2008 Nope. I've gone on record as saying I hope he's a good president and I'll give him credit when credit is due.I just think he'll coast through these next 4 and perhaps 8 years free of criticism, just like he skated to the White House. Yeah, he'll coast straight through these next four years criticism free....just like the last two weeks right? Oh, that's right...what HAVEN'T you guys criticized about Obama in the last two weeks. :doh: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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